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Seems like people have varied opinions on this.
Vote as you wish, and explain why if you like.
Vote as you wish, and explain why if you like.
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
I am not a Fed fan and I voted yes, full clay schedule. I am such a hooligan.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
Shame on you. OT, flat out no. Yes to the future if he plans a retirement tour at some point. But as long as he's competitive for Wimbledon, I wouldn't want him to waste his time and energy on clay
boredone3456
G.O.A.T.
Don't know why you want to limit it only to fed fans unless you really don't want it to be an open poll
anyway, I said he should play at least 1-2 events. It puts him at such a disadvantage that if he doesn't play clay he really has to be perfect virtually everywhere else to be ranked at the top. Plus giving up even a small chunk of 4000+ points just seems crazy to me. That and he's in the top 2 with a chance to be #1 this week, skipping the French Open just sounds wrong.
anyway, I said he should play at least 1-2 events. It puts him at such a disadvantage that if he doesn't play clay he really has to be perfect virtually everywhere else to be ranked at the top. Plus giving up even a small chunk of 4000+ points just seems crazy to me. That and he's in the top 2 with a chance to be #1 this week, skipping the French Open just sounds wrong.
Yeah, he should and beat Rafa, then Rafa fans will wished he skipped it.
Rafa is not young, why are his fans so confident that he is lock vs Federer on clay? Rafa things that too, he said he only lost because it wasn't clay.
Well, that kind of arrogance needs to be punished.
zagor
Bionic Poster
"Only for fans of player x" threads never work as intended, just saying.
The answer is no. I don't think his current game would translate well on clay and he'd risk getting injured for Wimbledon at this stage of his career.
He'll undoubtebly receive quite a media backlash if he skips it again(given that he's not the perpetually injured humble warrior) but I'd say go for it.
Feather
Legend
A Roger Federer fan from 2004 Wimbledon and I strongly feel that he should never play a single match on clay, not even on his last year on tour.
I feel it will injure him more as clay requires him to grind more. Secondly, even if he plays and put his best effort, the maximum he can reach is QF at RG. Why kill your own body for reaching just QF in a major?
After grass, his artistry was best expressed on clay courts but all good things need to end.
I feel it will injure him more as clay requires him to grind more. Secondly, even if he plays and put his best effort, the maximum he can reach is QF at RG. Why kill your own body for reaching just QF in a major?
After grass, his artistry was best expressed on clay courts but all good things need to end.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
I fear this could factor into his decision. If he was Rafa, he would just claim some imaginary injury of course ;-)
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
Because Nadal is still the undisputed king of clay while Federer hasn't been a factor on that surface for 2-3 years now. Best not to ruin his current momentum in their rivalry.
HazBeen18
Rookie
No. It worked for his schedule last year and allowed him to stay healthy enough to play and win Wimbledon and return and defend his Australian Open title. Taking the current situation out of the equation (i.e., Rotterdam and the quest for #1), Roger isn't playing a points game anymore. He plays tournaments he feels he can win. And he plays when he's healthy and when he can enjoy the effort. I don't particularly think Fed has enjoyed clay tennis of late and that is not just because of Rafa. I'm not sure, but I believe Istanbul (2015) was the last red clay tournament that Fed has won. And before that was French Open 2009. Clay is not a priority and shouldn't be.
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It's 12:30am here, I'm gonna go deaf if you guys keep yelling
Feather
Legend
As a Roger fan, I am not bothered about Rafa on clay. Roger has to reach final to play Rafa, since they are top two seeds. I don't think Roger will reach even QF if he plays at RG. That's the situation now
fedtennisphan
Hall of Fame
The title of the thread should be “why is everyone so pressed to have Federer play on clay?”
zagor
Bionic Poster
That's his fault though, Even when he's legit injured he doesn't want to admit because he's so afraid of losing his mental edge against the field and is at times too in love with his media image of the perfect tennis ambassador.
If he allows twitter warriors and the likes of Pat Cash to influence his scheduling decisions then what can you do. He'll pay the price for it.
Otacon
Hall of Fame
I wanna see this Fed 2.0 play two clay events.
1- Italian Open : He'll have 6 weeks off between Miami and Rome, and since it is the last major warm-up before the French, most top players will arrive tired.
2- French Open : With a nice draw, I'm convinced he can get to the finals without any trouble, and if he meets Rafa, it won't be a losing battle.
1- Italian Open : He'll have 6 weeks off between Miami and Rome, and since it is the last major warm-up before the French, most top players will arrive tired.
2- French Open : With a nice draw, I'm convinced he can get to the finals without any trouble, and if he meets Rafa, it won't be a losing battle.
Yeah, anything can happen in the final. Fed won't just fold this time and won't just let Rafa abuse his backhand. Plus, Fed will be fit.
Remember what Fed said? I will go 100% even if I can't walk for half a year.
Sorry, but that kind of Federer is no joke even for Rafa on clay.
Fed has mental edge over Rafa now, why not trying to cash it in? It's funny to me, that people just assume Federer won't be a threat if he makes the final.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
I'd like for him to play, but he knows whats best for himself at the end of the day. I really hope he is considering it though.
Plamen1234
Hall of Fame
Fed should have stopped playing on clay after 2010.He won FO and other clay tournaments with the exception of MC and Rome.And in 2018 there is no need to play.He needs to focus on the most prestigious Grand Slam - Wimbledon
kOaMaster
Hall of Fame
Completely neutral of course, I'm Swiss.
No but seriously, I don't care. When he feels like he's ready then he should play clay as much as he wants. He won Istanbul & reached the Rome final in 2015, why not? If he chooses wisely he might take one of those titles.
If he doesn't play them, I'm sure he's got his reasons.
No but seriously, I don't care. When he feels like he's ready then he should play clay as much as he wants. He won Istanbul & reached the Rome final in 2015, why not? If he chooses wisely he might take one of those titles.
If he doesn't play them, I'm sure he's got his reasons.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
agreed
noobforehand20
Professional
i had a weird dream in wich he played montecarlo, and beat nadal there to win it, and he did not plan to play another tournament before paris but given that he now just needed to win rome to complete the set, he went there and won it as well, then he was the favorite to win RG, i will save this post for later just in case
Otacon
Hall of Fame
Yep, and people seems to forget how close the 2011 FO finals was despite all the scars he was having. Now I think he's better equiped to beat Rafa on clay in a Bo5 match with his improved BH and renewed confidence.
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Yes. But only RG2018 > because @ak24alive's Fanboy Fantasy in my signature is so Fantastical, Federer should feel morally responsible to try and win the French.
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Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
Poor you, he is one of the favorites for only 3 out of 4 Slams, that's the situation now.As a Roger fan, I am not bothered about Rafa on clay. Roger has to reach final to play Rafa, since they are top two seeds. I don't think Roger will reach even QF if he plays at RG. That's the situation now
-NN-
G.O.A.T.
Also, I remember watching the clay court season last year after Fed won the Sunshine Double and thought to myself, thank frick Federer isn't bothering. The tennis is just way different, way more brutal - it's easy to forget that over the course of a full year, but that ain't gonn' jive with Fedr.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
I sometimes get the sense that the guy you're replying to is a Rafa-fan masking as a Fed fan. Not completely sure, but there are def. signs. He doesn't care about a 9th Wimbledon at all and is aching for a Fedal-meeting on clay.
See also the use of 'a real champion' here: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...s-i-play-when-i’m-ready.610616/#post-12036405
And my reply to 2 other posts here: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...oses-early-in-rotterdam.610405/#post-12036356
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Guy Forgets Fast Balls.
No. No, that doesn't sound quite right. I have no way of disagreeing with it though.
-NN-
G.O.A.T.
Nope he's a Fed fan.
Yeah, I hate that my fellow Fed fans have this mental defeating attitude, so just avoid Rafa, like that is better?
I rather see Fed trying and failing even if gets triple bageled, at least no regrets. This is winning mentality, not avoiding your challenges.
And I bet Federer thinks like that too, if he will be healthy, he will try clay.
Yeah, other Fed fans can't get it, they are mentally weak, I'm not afraid of Rafa and losing to Rafa, hey, in order to be great you have to take risks.
letstakeourshirtsoff
Professional
fedr gonna fedr.
-NN-
G.O.A.T.
In order to be great you need to make wise decisions that aren't boneheaded also. Grass it is then (in any serious capacity).
If Fed plays clay it won't be very serious. He ain't aiming to win RG but is looking at the bigger picture for his future successes and 'greatness'.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
you're properly right, but why so sure?
-NN-
G.O.A.T.
Because it's jg153040.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
There was a time where it made sense to play a full schedule and take the defeats. Fed's been there, done that. He's closing in on 37 now, time to focus his efforts and maximize his chances. According to you, Fed's not a real champion if he doesn't play (which he didn't last year) and the rest of us are mentally weak for hoping he doesn't
this, so much this
Yeah, that's why I'm saying the wisest is to play on clay masters, then decide from there.
Oh, yeah, it's me, I thought that was obvious.
Feather
Legend
Poor you, he is one of the favorites for only 3 out of 4 Slams, that's the situation now.
I was not complaining, it was more of a matter of fact reply. After AO 2017, anything he achieves is cherry on the top of a huge cake. I am very well aware that he is the favourite in 3 out of 4 majors and also anything can change any moment in Tennis. He has only limited time in Tennis. I really wish Novak Djokovic comes back in full form and have some battles between our idols before everything gets over for ever. Those matches between Novak and Roger were special, irrespective of whom we rooted for.
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
I guess participating in FO will risk not just the good results in Wimbledon but also good results for the remainder of the season. It would be best for him to skip clay season. That will actually be a blessing to Nadal fans, because he will still pick up some good points if he plays on clay, and he may also be just fine physically after 1 or 2 clay events.
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