Fed Fans - Who would you rather overtake Federer's slam total?

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Who would you rather overtake Federer's slam total?

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Probably Rafa. I like him more and if not for Fed would honestly support him quite a bit. I supported him in RG17 and in the RG18 final (was supporting Delpo till he lost). Then again, I do sometimes support Nole, such as in Wimbledon 2018 SF and final.

I've really enjoyed watching Novak for years now so it's not that I don't like him. I just prefer Nadal.
 
As for the question at hand, I'd rather Nolé have the record than Hafa. Always preferred his game more and been more of a fan of him. As for humbalito, every sports fan needs a bogeyman, and Rafa happens to be the Real Madrid to my Barcelona fandom so to speak. Not hate or anything personal (he seems a decent bloke), just sports narrative. Djokovic is more like Bayern München in this equation, so more neutral;)
 
Firstservingman said:
Nadal has had missed opportunities too. AO 2017, Wimbledon 2018 to name two
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These are simply hard fought losses...not missed opportunities.

Djokovic went slamless for 3 years after winning 2008 AO; lost slam finals to Wawrinka in 2015 and 2016; and went slamless in 2017.
The biggest missed opportunity: Having reached his peak in 2011 and with no strong young guns, won only one slam in 2012, 2013, 2014. He should have won a minimum of 7 slams during this period.
 
Sysyphus said:
As for the question at hand, I'd rather Nolé have the record than Hafa. Always preferred his game more and been more of a fan of him. As for humbalito, every sports fan needs a bogeyman, and Rafa happens to be the Real Madrid to my Barcelona fandom so to speak. Not hate or anything personal (he seems a decent bloke), just sports narrative. Djokovic is more like Bayern München in this equation, so more neutral;)
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I draw the same parallels with football clubs as you. Their styles and vibe match players so well: Federer - artistry and ingenuity, Nadal - intensity and force, Djokovic - control and clinical brilliance.

Fedal is the tennis version of El Clasico, the rivalry of all rivalries, but I find Barca vs Bayern matchup more interesting. :p
 
The Fedfather said:
I draw the same parallels with football clubs as you. Their styles and vibe match players so well: Federer - artistry and ingenuity, Nadal - intensity and force, Djokovic - control and clinical brilliance.

Fedal is the tennis version of El Clasico, the rivalry of all rivalries, but I find Barca vs Bayern matchup more interesting. :p
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good points, I didn't even think about the parallels between the clubs and players when writing that (styles, match-up), but it does work:D
 
I'm a neutral in the goat debate, so I don't really care who has the biggest slam count. I genuinely like all three players, but I find Rafa fans to be amongst the most toxic and disagreeable fans I've ever encountered. I sometimes hope for Rafa to lose just to avoid how smug the fanbase would be. It's a shame because he's a wonderful player.
 
I would never root for Djokovic except against Nadal and that's because at this point Nadal is closer to 20. It's funny, I felt the same way about Federer when he was approaching Sampras's then record. I doubt these feelings will change as either Djokovic and Nadal threaten 20 or after one of them overcomes 20, as I did with Federer. I was saying over the weekend that I don't know what I would do, who I would root for, if Djokovic and Nadal were tied at 19 and playing in a final. I know now. As much as I've always rooted against Nadal, and always rooted for Djokovic against Nadal as Djokovic was coming into his own, I would definitely be rooting for Nadal. I sincerely can't stand Djokovic. This has nothing to do with me objectively acknowledging his tennis ability. I can't stand his arrogance and his cockiness. The indelible image of him tearing off his shirt and roaring makes me sick.
 
Bobby Jr said:
Djokovic, because it would forever infuriate Nadal fans who for years have been saying he's greater than Federer because of the h2h between them. It would render their entire argument against Federer void except to the most terminally stupid among them.
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It's funny to see Nadal fans changing their tone :D

Back in 2013-2014 they said Nadal was already greater than Roger despite the slam difference. But now that Novak is even closer to Nadal than Nadal is to Federer, all of a sudden it's still Nadal because he has more slams :-D
 
Old Gregg said:
He just did 3 in 7 months.

I'm worried.
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bobombom said:
I'm a neutral in the goat debate, so I don't really care who has the biggest slam count. I genuinely like all three players, but I find Rafa fans to be amongst the most toxic and disagreeable fans I've ever encountered. I sometimes hope for Rafa to lose just to avoid how smug the fanbase would be. It's a shame because he's a wonderful player.
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This.

Although over time I have learnt that all 3 fanbases are smug and each one of them can be unbearable to the opposing fanbaes.
 
Seems inevitable that one of them will win 21 slams, especially if Nadal plays 4 more years and scoops up the french 3/4 times and maybe one other slam along the way. Novak is only 31 (LOL that was retirement age 10 years ago) and if he can last 5 more years he'll have at least 21

I voted Djokovic because Nadal's numbers are so inflated with 10 FO titles.
 
Djokovic easily. I just like his game and personality a lot more, especially when he's aggressive and teeing off on groundstrokes like on Sunday. And in order to break the slam record, he'd have to have another incredible two or three years, at which point we'd be looking at one of the very, very best resumes in tennis – possibly the (nearly) undisputed GOAT. For Nadal to break the record, he just needs to win the French Open a few more times and continue to fall short everywhere else. Sounds boring to me.
 
I think Djokovic has the better all-around resume and game, so if anyone had to break it, I'd rather it be him
 
mikeeeee said:
Seems inevitable that one of them will win 21 slams, especially if Nadal plays 4 more years and scoops up the french 3/4 times and maybe one other slam along the way. Novak is only 31 (LOL that was retirement age 10 years ago) and if he can last 5 more years he'll have at least 21

I voted Djokovic because Nadal's numbers are so inflated with 10 FO titles.
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11 and he hasn't won any world tour finals.
 
This is tough. I like Djoker better than Nadal, although I have nothing against Nadal. However, Djoker is looking likely to break several of Fed's records. Djoker has already had some insane records.

At this stage, I just hope that Fed ends up tied for the most slam titles. I'd even take 20 slams titles for each of the Big 3.

Here's an update on some of Djoker's records. These are crazy.

7 AO titles
3 consecutive slam finals won in straight sets(tied with Laver)
7 consecutive hard court slam finals.
15 hard court slam finals
4 consecutive slam titles won in the Open Era(tied with Laver)
Holding all 4 Grand Slams and WTF titles simultaneously
15 straight finals reached in the same season
3 different streaks of winning 3 consecutive slam titles
3 consecutive finals at all 4 majors

If Djoker bags #21, he'll probably pass Federer in weeks at #1, YE#1, and match Fed in WTF. Djokovic is insane. And it doesn't look like Fed will have a chance to put up a road block for Djoker like he did for Nadal at the 2017 AO final.

So I am mixed on this.
 
Suprising the amount of people that picked Djokovic. It would not even be bad to see all the Big 3 end up equal that would have a real debate on its hands.
 
In my opinion Nadal hasn't achieved as much as Djokovic and Federer. Most of his wins are on clay where there's hardly any competition and it is a specialist surface. On top of that he hasn't won any world tour finals.

The debate is really in between Fed and the Djoker.
 
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mikeeeee said:
Seems inevitable that one of them will win 21 slams, especially if Nadal plays 4 more years and scoops up the french 3/4 times and maybe one other slam along the way. Novak is only 31 (LOL that was retirement age 10 years ago) and if he can last 5 more years he'll have at least 21

I voted Djokovic because Nadal's numbers are so inflated with 10 FO titles.
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11 RGs. And Nadal has won slams on medium and faster surfaces as much as Fed has on slow to medium surfaces.
 
Benjamin Rio said:
Fed and the Djoker are better players on Hard courts grass outdoors and indoors. Nadal is only a better player on clay.
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True. But i was pointing out Nadal is more than just a clay player. Nadal dominates clay more than the other two off it in someways that makes up for it but it someways it does not.
 
ReeceSachs said:
True. But i was pointing out Nadal is more than just a clay player.
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Nadal has done really well by winning 3 US Opens 2 wimbledon and 1 Australian. No question about that. Especially as he was able to beat Fed and the Djoker on 4 occasions in those finals.

Last set the Djoker has lost to Nadal on hardcourt is from the 13 US open final over 5 years ago.;)
 
Benjamin Rio said:
Nadal has done really well by winning 3 US Opens 2 wimbledon and 1 Australian. No question about that. Especially as he was able to beat Fed and the Djoker on 4 occasions in those finals.
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Yeah. Including a prime Fed in Wimb 2008/AO 2009. Djokovic was at his best in USO 2010/2013 but still some really good wins in exciting matches esp USO 2010.
 
Benjamin Rio said:
Fed and the Djoker are better players on Hard courts grass outdoors and indoors. Nadal is only a better player on clay which is a specialist surface with hardly any competition.
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If you think there is competition in grass, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there is not.
 
ReeceSachs said:
Yeah. Including a prime Fed in Wimb 2008/AO 2009. Djokovic was at his best in USO 2010/2013 but still some really good wins in exciting matches esp USO 2010.
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Fed was not in his prime in 2008. He hadn't won so much before wimbledon. Just two tournaments Estoril and Halle.

The Djoker should never have lost the 13 US Open final....so many chances wasted. Since then he hans't lost a set to Nadal on hardcourts.
 
The Fedfather said:
I draw the same parallels with football clubs as you. Their styles and vibe match players so well: Federer - artistry and ingenuity, Nadal - intensity and force, Djokovic - control and clinical brilliance.

Fedal is the tennis version of El Clasico, the rivalry of all rivalries, but I find Barca vs Bayern matchup more interesting. :p
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Yet the European Classico is Real-Bayern :p
 
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Benjamin Rio said:
Fed was not in his prime in 2008. He hadn't won so much before wimbledon. Just two tournaments Estoril and Halle.
I think Federer raised his level post mono from clay to Wimbeldon. He did lose to Nadal 4 times in this period.He reached F without dropping a set and played one of the best grass matches ever vs Nadal.
Prime is subjective i guess though.
The Djoker should never have lost the 13 US Open final....so many chances wasted. Since then he hans't lost a set to Nadal on hardcourts.
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I agree.
 
DSH said:
murray wawrinka djokovic thiem federer:rolleyes::giggle:
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Oh yeah we've seen how strong was the competition at the FO in 2017 and 2018 without a fit djoker and a prime Fed. Wawrinka and Thiem were thrashed. Even before the FO started you could have handed out the trophy to Nadal.
 
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