Fed Fans - Who would you rather overtake Federer's slam total?

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Who would you rather overtake Federer's slam total?

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Benjamin Rio said:
Oh yeah we've seen how strong was the competition at the FO in 2017 and 2018 without a fit djoker and a prime Fed. Wawrinka and Thiem were thrashed. Even before the FO started you could have handed out the trophy to Nadal.
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fed won wimbledon at almos 36! without losing a set when even in his peak couldnt do it.
and in 2018 he was beaten by an old player like anderson, no a youngster.
nadal at least has thiem on clay, kyrgios was the guy who apparently he was dominating on the grass but we clearly see that tennis is not his thing.
 
DSH said:
fed won wimbledon at almos 36! without losing a set when even in his peak couldnt do it.
and in 2018 he was beaten by an old player like anderson, no a youngster.
nadal at least has thiem on clay, kyrgios was the guy who apparently he was dominating on the grass but we clearly see that tennis is not his thing.
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That's what i call no competition.
 
DSH said:
fed won wimbledon at almos 36! without losing a set when even in his peak couldnt do it.
and in 2018 he was beaten by an old player like anderson, no a youngster.
nadal at least has thiem on clay, kyrgios was the guy who apparently he was dominating on the grass but we clearly see that tennis is not his thing.
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Cilic was injured in the final.
 
Benjamin Rio said:
In my opinion Nadal hasn't achieved as much as Djokovic and Federer. Most of his wins are on clay where there's hardly any competition and it is a specialist surface.
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Djokovic's diversity at the slams isn't all that much better than Nadal's, and is nowhere near Federer's. Take away each player's best slam, and it's 6-5-1 vs 4-3-1 vs 3-2-1.
 
duaneeo said:
Djokovic's diversity at the slams isn't all that much better than Nadal's, and is nowhere near Federer's. Take away each player's best slam, and it's 6-5-1 vs 4-3-1 vs 3-2-1.
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The Djoker will improve his numbers. And the lack of world tour finals in Nadal's case is a big hole especially compared to Fed's 6 titles and Novak's 5 titles.
 
NatF said:
No...I don't want anyone to. This place would be turned upside down lol. I prefer Djokovic and his fans though generally.
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but what if he does, will you feel depressed, furious? or is ok after all, tennis is just a game.
 
DSH said:
but what if he does, will you feel depressed, furious? or is ok after all, tennis is just a game.
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Tennis is just a game. Why should I be furious if a record that isn't even mine got broken? Disappointed? Sure. But it passes easily when you just live your life.
 
DSH said:
but what if he does, will you feel depressed, furious? or is ok after all, tennis is just a game.
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I would find it unfair. Physical strength and mental strength over tennis abilities.
Still even if Nadal would win more slams than Fed that would only be due to his wins at the FO. So there's no threat really. The djoker on the other hand is a different animal. He's amazing on all surfaces and if he wins the FO this year he would held all slams for the second time.
 
Benjamin Rio said:
I would find it unfair. Physical strength and mental strength over tennis abilities.
Still even if Nadal would win more slams than Fed that would only be due to his wins at the FO. So there's no threat really. The djoker on the other hand is a different animal. He's amazing on all surfaces and my win the FO this year and hold all 4 slams for the second time.
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You don't think that both physical and mental strength are tennis abilities? Can you name a great tennis player who doesn't have at least average physical and mental strength?
 
Benjamin Rio said:
I would find it unfair. Physical strength and mental strength over tennis abilities.
Still even if Nadal would win more slams than Fed that would only be due to his wins at the FO. So there's no threat really. The djoker on the other hand is a different animal. He's amazing on all surfaces and if he wins the FO this year he would held all slams for the second time.
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i asked him about djokovic surpassing federer gs record.
 
The Fedfather said:
You don't think that both physical and mental strength are tennis abilities? Can you name a great tennis player who doesn't have at least average physical and mental strength?
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All 3 of them are amazing mentally physically and tennis wise. In my opinion, Federe's tennis and Djokovic are much better player than Nadal. Nadal did amazingly well in his career to be so close to them as his tennis abilities are not as great.

 
Benjamin Rio said:
All 3 of them are amazing mentally physically and tennis wise. In my opinion, Federe's tennis and Djokovic are much better player than Nadal. Nadal did amazingly well in his career to be so close to them as his tennis abilities are not as great.

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Not fair to use one of my favourite shots ever as your argument :) But really, while I do think Federer is the most talented among the Big 3, not sure between Nadal and Djokovic, it doesn't mean his achievements count for more. Physical and mental strength are tennies abilities because one needs them to be good at tennis. So if Nadal at the end of his career achieves more than Federer it wouldn't be fair to discount that on the basis that his tennis wasn't as awe-inspiring as Roger's.
 
Let's put it this way.


If Djokovic reaches 20 Slams, potentially about to pass Roger, and Nadal is on 17 and they play in a Slam final, if I'm still alive I'll be cheering for Djokovic. :unsure::unsure::unsure:
 
The Fedfather said:
Not fair to use one of my favourite shots ever as your argument :) But really, while I do think Federer is the most talented among the Big 3, not sure between Nadal and Djokovic, it doesn't mean his achievements count for more. Physical and mental strength are tennies abilities because one needs them to be good at tennis. So if Nadal at the end of his career achieves more than Federer it wouldn't be fair to discount that on the basis that his tennis wasn't as awe-inspiring as Roger's.
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Nadal will never achieve as much. Most of his titles are on clay and he can't win the atp tour finals. Djokovic on the other hand may achieve more than Fed on most slams number of weeks number 1 year end number calendar slam World tour finals etc etc
 
I think Roger has 1-2 more finals in him. Maybe 3. I think he could last a heck of a while longer at Wimbledon.
 
duaneeo said:
These are simply hard fought losses...not missed opportunities.

Djokovic went slamless for 3 years after winning 2008 AO; lost slam finals to Wawrinka in 2015 and 2016; and went slamless in 2017.
The biggest missed opportunity: Having reached his peak in 2011 and with no strong young guns, won only one slam in 2012, 2013, 2014. He should have won a minimum of 7 slams during this period.
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To be fair in 2012, 2013, 2014 he won 3, the other 9 were won by? ... 4-Nadal, 2, murray, 1 fed, 1 wawrinka, 1 cilic. He lost to nadal 4 times (2 rg finals, 1 rg sf, 1 us final), 2 to murray (wimby and us finals) , 1 to fed (2012 sf), wawrinka (aussie qf 2014 who also beat nadal in the final..). He didnt lose early to some scrub or falter against a no name. Each and every time he lost to an all time great except for niskiikori at the us open Sf 2014.

8/9 times he lost to the winner of the slam during that span..
 
acintya said:
This poll result stuns me. We all know Fed gets along with Nadal very well. We all know that feds nightmare would be if Nole would surpass him.
This only shows how much Nadal haters are here - especially rf fans - and that they have no idea how good Nadal really is.
I only hope Nadal gets in turbo mode while he is still competing and gets a grand slam outta RG.
I cant say Novak because i find his game ultra boring. but is far more likely that Djokovic will surpass Fed than Nadal because he is more sucesful at different surfaces.

the biggest shirt thing in tennis is when Nadal is on a run and then gets a ****ing injury - this is the worst nightmare for me and him - just look at Murray - this breaks your heart.
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exactly, nadal is hopeless against the serbian, let see if in rg he can still prevail in his "home turf" because in other places he is unlikely to do so.
 
DSH said:
exactly, nadal is hopeless against the serbian, let see if in rg he can still prevail in his "home turf" because in other places he is unlikely to do so.
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i warned people this might be not the case...i feel Djokovic is on a run and he might take even RG. this man is on a mission to destroy everything - i highly doubt someone will ever do so much damage in the future - in a such strong field. im pretty sure history will not repeat after djokovic retires - he will leave a mark just nadal already leaved a mark @ RG.

the destroyer from Serbia.
 
It doesnt matter who they would rather. It can only be Djoker. Nadal is not winning 3 more RGs. This year is under scrutiny already.
 
NatF said:
No...I don't want anyone to. This place would be turned upside down lol. I prefer Djokovic and his fans though generally.
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I feel the opposite. My personal view is regardless who your favorite or anti favorites are, the best thing about one/both of someone surpassing Federer's 20 or Serena surpassing 24 is TMF's inevitable meltdown. It would be comedy personified, and given what a miserable and deplorable human being this individual is, something everyone should root for at some level. Atleast 1 of the 2 happening.
 
CremoCream said:
To be fair in 2012, 2013, 2014 he won 3, the other 9 were won by? ... 4-Nadal, 2, murray, 1 fed, 1 wawrinka, 1 cilic.
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Djokovic should have dominated mens tennis in 2012, 2013, and 2014 as he did in 2011, and he would have if he had played in 2012, 2013, and 2014 as he did in 2011.
 
duaneeo said:
Djokovic should have dominated mens tennis in 2012, 2013, and 2014 as he did in 2011, and he would have if he had played in 2012, 2013, and 2014 as he did in 2011.
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Shoulda woulda coulda. Easier said then done. Nadal, murray, wawrinka, cilic are all around his age. Even del potro. These are really good or all time great peers... on top of the GOAT in fed still playing at a high level. Its easy to say oh well he should swept the grand slams. But the fact that he only lost to the GS winners is telling. Maybe we can argue that novak should’ve won a GS here or there during that stretch because he choked. But to say that he should’ve won 7 at a “minimum” during that span is far fetched. Thats utter disrespect to fed, nadal, and murray.
 
brystone said:
I feel the opposite. My personal view is regardless who your favorite or anti favorites are, the best thing about one/both of someone surpassing Federer's 20 or Serena surpassing 24 is TMF's inevitable meltdown. It would be comedy personified, and given what a miserable and deplorable human being this individual is, something everyone should root for at some level. Atleast 1 of the 2 happening.
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lol
 
Keystoner said:
I can't stand his arrogance and his cockiness. The indelible image of him tearing off his shirt and roaring makes me sick.
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ROFLMAO I can't believe you have a problem with that celebration, but no issues with Nadal's celebrations

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I think Roger has 1-2 more finals in him. Maybe 3. I think he could last a heck of a while longer at Wimbledon.
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Do you consider that to be an objective opinion or optimistic because you're a Fed fan? I'm a Fed fan but I'm a pessimist, so my opinion may not be objective either. After seeing all the Fed losses beginning with IW2018, I don't think Fed has a prayer of making another GS final.
 
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acintya said:
This poll result stuns me. We all know Fed gets along with Nadal very well. We all know that feds nightmare would be if Nole would surpass him.
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The poll results are influenced by the timing of it all. Right now, Novak is 6 (!) Slams away from surpassing Fed. It's not really a realistic scenario.

Nadal on the other hand is only 4 away, with at least 2 more FOs where he'll be the overwhelming favorite. 21 for him doesn't sound all that far fetched, and it's a much scarier prospect for Fed fans.

If you asked this question with both at 20 Slams and about to play a Slam final, you would get a different result to the poll
 
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Keystoner said:
Do you consider that to be an objective opinion or optimistic because you're a Fed fan? I'm a Fed fan but I'm a pessimist, so my opinion may not be objective either. After seeing all the Fed losses beginning with IW2018, I don't think Fed has a prayer of making another GS final.
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Dunno. I thought he was done at 17. I've had pessimistic and optimistic phases with Fed. Realism is a whole other kettle of fish. It does look bleak since IW2018. I'm banking on him being a threat at Wimbledon for some time to come.
 
-NN- said:
Dunno. I thought he was done at 17. I've had pessimistic and optimistic phases with Fed. Realism is a whole other kettle of fish. It does look bleak since IW2018. I'm banking on him being a threat at Wimbledon for some time to come.
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I feel like the physicality to win slams may have left Federer for good, his forehand came good again in 2017 but I feel he's lost the explosiveness to generate easy power on that side, without it I see him having to scrap through well playing opponents too much to win 7 matches at a major. I hope I'm wrong, one more Wimbledon would be glorious - especially over Djokovic.
 
jm1980 said:
ROFLMAO I can't believe you have a problem with that celebration, but no issues with Nadal's celebrations
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This is an example of how ridiculous this forum is. I have no issues with Nadal's celebrations? You just can't believe it, huh? Flabbergasted, are you? :rolleyes:
 
jm1980 said:
The poll results are influenced by the timing of it all. Right now, Novak is 6 (!) Slams away from surpassing Fed. It's not really a realistic scenario.

Nadal on the other is only 4 away, with at least 2 more FOs where he'll be the overwhelming favorite. 21 for him doesn't sound all that far fetched, and it's a much scarier prospect for Fed fans.

If you asked this question with both at 20 Slams and about to play a Slam final, you would get a different result to the poll
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I wouldn't change my response.
 
Sysyphus said:
As for the question at hand, I'd rather Nolé have the record than Hafa. Always preferred his game more and been more of a fan of him. As for humbalito, every sports fan needs a bogeyman, and Rafa happens to be the Real Madrid to my Barcelona fandom so to speak. Not hate or anything personal (he seems a decent bloke), just sports narrative. Djokovic is more like Bayern München in this equation, so more neutral;)
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Pretty much nailed it. The great sports narrative needs the favorite player and pit him against an equally strong (or stronger) rival. For the longest time for the general sports fandom, that favorite was Federer, over the last 5 years the spotlight has gradually shifted toward Djokovic, but the intimidating NPC final boss is always the same: El Matador.
That would explain the overwhelming support for Djokovic against Nadal by Federer fans and the general fandom. Federer couldn't fully overcome Nadal, and Djokovic is the second-generation hero who succeeds.

Ironically, Djokovic's game is a little more similar to Nadal's than Fed. He combines the best of both worlds: Nadal's stamina and defensive athleticism with Federer's perfect technique, aggression and flow.\

That said, while I definitely want Novak to be the Slam GOAT, it does look more realistic for Nadal since he's just had a death grip on his place at the top for all these years, he's never dropped from the top 10, and he has his trusty RG that he can keep winning. He won't get the record with only RG titles though, so our best hope is that he doesn't get his hands on the Wimby or USO trophies again.
 
NatF said:
I feel like the physicality to win slams may have left Federer for good, his forehand came good again in 2017 but I feel he's lost the explosiveness to generate easy power on that side, without it I see him having to scrap through well playing opponents too much to win 7 matches at a major. I hope I'm wrong, one more Wimbledon would be glorious - especially over Djokovic.
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I'm dreaming of the USO. :) Winning 11 years after his last title, he'll have the record there and 6 titles at 3 majors. And then just the fact that it's the last Slam in the season, and the feeling of victory will carry until the end of the season unlike if he won Wimby and then lost at the USO.
 
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