Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by norcal, Feb 24, 2005.
6 all in the third!
this I know, but do you have a site with real live scoring?
R. Federer(SWI) d. J. C. Ferrero(ESP)
4-6 - 6-3 - 7-6(6)
nah, just the crappy Dubai site. It's been 6 all for about 15 minutes now...
Good. I was afraid of a mass suicide by the Fed cult if he had lost!
Tough win for Roger, but he still made it !
Come on !
Anyway, i think that he isn't playing at his best right now. I mean, kind of lowering himself like if he wanted the other to think "damn he is not the winning machine anymore" ... but in the end, he still wins :d
I watched it on their crappy webcast and it was a good stuff. Ferrero was up a break in every set, he had 2-0 in the second and Fed came back, then he had 4-2 in the third set and break point to go up 5-2... Fed came back, but Ferrero had 2 matchpoints in the tiebreak at 6-4. Fed came back again and won it...
Thorughout the match I thought that Ferrero controlled it but in the end Fed was too tough..
I'm wondering....is this a sign of good things to come for JC Ferrero or that Federer is slipping?
he is not slipping for christ sake !
When you play tennis, do you always play at your best ? No
When you try to play a new type of game, in the beginning, you're not as performant as you were before. But after a short period of time, you get better and better ...
That's what federe is going through.
He is trying to reach perfection by beeing able to play well on any surface and against any opponent.
He may not be playing his best now, but none of us can know if he is planning to peak at the next slam. Federer is a great champion, let's not count him out just yet. Reminds me of all the posts about the end of Andy's road.
Marius, you crack me up! That was great.
I see that Roger's up to his using minor tournaments for practice sessions again.
Another third set tie breaker? Roger is practicing his nerves or something
That was Norcal, I had no merits on that one.
BTW, Ferrero had 2 matchpoints at 6-4 in the 3rd set tiebreaker. I feels this signals Ferrero's resurgence. Just in time for the clay ... but first Indian Wells and Miami ... those are the real stuff.
glad to see juan carlos is on his way back.
I hope he does well at the French.
yup, he's definately SLIPPING.
i hope juan carlos breaks back into the top 10!
oh ya~ the mosquito is BACK~~
Not necessarily. He took Federer to a 3rd set tiebreak - but then again, so did Ivo Minar in the last round and Ivan Ljubicic on Sunday. It doesnt' say much about how Ferrero is playing.
I guess the special treatment came in handy again. Ferrero choked several times. I'm creaming myself.
Dudes.....i need to see this match! Does anyone know where i could get this video?
Great opponents! Wooo
juan carlos should have the match!!! had 2 match points!!! but of course against fed its never easy to close out the match.
Y'all need to read this story. In it, Federer explains his recent rash of 3rd set tiebreaks. He said that a friend offerred him $10 for every match he won in a 3rd set tiebreak and when Federer shrugged it off, the friend upped the offer to $20 a 3rd set tiebreak. This proved to be more than Federer could refuse, he is, after all a professional tennis player.
Thanks to Marius for sheddling light on what would have been an othewise gloomy development.
(And kudos to Norcal for one of the funniest lines this or any other thread.)
Okay! Okay! I goofed.
Marius, you're not funny at all; norcal is. (No. That's not quite the way I want to phrase that....)
norcal, you crack me up. Marius... (Oh nevermind!!!)
up a break in every set, 2 match points, and he still lost! What a nightmare. I wonder how he lost on the 2 mathc points, were they winners by Federer or his errors.
Ferrero was playing as well as I have seen him play before, and that is a lot!
He just didnt have the killer instinct, almost like he had forgotten how to beat a top player.
With more big matches that will come.
Federer actually played well in the 2nd and 3rd sets and Ferrero matched him, he just couldn't close it out.
It's great to see my lad back
where the hell have you been liam? good thing there's no red type...
FED ISN"T SLIPPING
People saying Fed is slipping is hilarious to me. Who cares about the Dubai open? Would he want to win, sure, but players of Fed, Samp and Agassi's caliber care about one thing.....MAJORS! If he doesn't win one major this year we can all say that he didn't have as good a year as last, but give the guy a break he can't win them all against world class players!
You can't expect Federer to win them all, even while not playing his best he still manages to win.
Khaleej Times Online >> News >> SPORTS
I am still the best, says Federer
By Ahmed Abbas Rizvi
26 February 2005
DUBAI — Greatness knows itself. One look at Roger Federer and you know the truth of that maxim.
Dare suggest that his loss to Marat Safin in the Australian Open semifinals and three consecutive third set tie-breaks could be because the rest are catching up, and he looks up at you hurt.
“You wouldn’t like to say that because I have the feeling I haven’t been playing well but still coming through,” the ‘Basel Dazzler’ said after his latest escape, a 4-6, 6-3, 7-6 (6) win over Juan Carlos Ferrero at the Dubai Tennis Championships Men’s Open on Thursday night, when he survived two match points to enter the quarterfinals.
“I am winning the crucial points so that shows I am at the top of my game when I have to be,” he added.
And then, as if to challenge the rest, he said: “We will see at the big occasions if they are close or not. I am still by far the number one player in the world.”
To even suggest that the amazing Swiss’ powers are on the wane would be incredulous, if not blasphemous.
Hear it when past master John McEnroe tells you Federer has “a chance to be one of the greatest players to ever live.”
Believe it when Lleyton Hewitt says “Roger has raised the bar for us over the last 18 months. Does he have any weaknesses? I don’t think so. We’ll all just have to work harder.”
McEnroe should know. Hewitt should know: He lost six straight to Federer in 2004, none of them particularly close.
Federer finds himself astride the men’s tennis world that he has pounded into a lopsided shape favouring himself. The Safin loss at the Australian is just an aberration.
He is 33-1 in his last 34 matches, and the past season has given him divine bragging rights.
The Swiss, blessed with prodigious talent and unflappable playing style, went 18-0 during 2004 against so-called peers in the Top 10. He lost just six matches in 2004 while winning 74, thus batting .925, the highest winning percentage since Ivan Lendl’s .925 in 1986 and John McEnroe’s .965 in 1984.
He won 11 titles in 2004, the most since Thomas Muster racked up a dozen in 1995. And he has won every one of his last 15 finals.
So what’s with this Safin “secret” to beat Federer?
“You know, he knows so many secrets, it’s amazing: He knows everything,” laughed Federer, when reminded of the Russian’s boast that he knows the secret of beating the Swiss. “No, I am just joking. He is a good guy.
“Ferrero said he has a secret, Hewitt knows a secret, Safin knows a secret — they all know it. But I am still on top,” the Swiss replied.
But then, what is the secret of stopping the ‘Fed Ex’?
“You shouldn’t ask me, you should ask them,” he said. “I have no clue how to beat myself.
“Jeez, I am such a good player,” he added with a laugh. On a more serious note, he added: “It all depends on your form on the day. Of course I cannot expect that every time I play a Top 10 player, I am going to beat him. I think they know that.”
But surely, there must be some chinks in the armour?
“My backhand and my returns at times,” he revealed. “Some days it could be your volleys, sometimes your quickness on the court lets you down — It all depends upon your form on the day.
“But my backhand has always been bad,” he added, with a sheepish grin.
And yes, the defeat to Safin in the Australian Open semifinal had also got him thinking.
“It was on my mind till just before the tournament in Rotterdam,” he revealed. “I was not sure how I am going to cope with this defeat because it hadn’t happened since the Olympics. That was quiet a while ago.
“In Rotterdam, the start was good and I ended up winning the tournament. So that’s (the Safin loss) forgotten and it’s good.”
The three tight wins — the Rotterdam final and two matches here — have only added to Federer’s confidence.
“I am so happy to have won the last three close ones,” he said. “There was one close one before that I lost and that was a rough one against Safin (at the Australian Open).
“So I am happy to have now overcome this again. When I get into tie-break in the third set, I am not thinking about the Safin match.”
The Safin match couldn’t have bothered him for long anyway. Because Federer’s mind is always on winning — not just the Majors, but every tournament he participates him.
“When I come to a tournament, I am here to win it; I am here to do well and not just to participate,” he said.
He understands that some players use certain tournaments for practice purpose. But not him.
“It’s easy to practice around a tournament. All the players are here, the setup is perfect,” he said. “At home, sometimes it can be tough to find the right sparring partner.
“For the ladies, it’s different. They can hit with a guy. But we are already the best out there, so we cannot just go and hit with anybody. We need somebody who, at least, can handle our rhythm. So for this reason, sometimes players come to a tournament and take it as a preparation for the next week. But I don’t like to look at it this way,” he asserted. “Every tournament counts for me; it is not just the Slams.”
Such hunger, if he can keep it burning, will someday surely see Federer eclipse Pete Sampras’ monumental record of 14 singles majors, accomplished in 13 seasons between 1990 and 2002. Sampras had won five majors at age 23. Federer, 23, has won four.
Neither Lendl nor McEnroe won three majors in one year as Federer did in 2004 (Australian Open, Wimbledon, and US Open). Mats Wilander did it in 1988, but failed in the Masters, losing in the round-robin.
Of the game’s big five (the majors plus the Masters), Federer won four in 2004. In 2005, he has missed out on the Australian Open.
That will surely have made him hungrier, as McEnroe warned.
“Federer’s the kind of guy that as soon as he lost at Australia, he was setting his sights on the French Open (which begins in May),” McEnroe said.
“He’s the sort of guy that immediately starts looking toward the next major.
“The loss will make him hungrier. I think it will motivate him even more. And that’s a scary thing for the rest of the field.”
Scary? For the rest of the field maybe. For the rest, it would be a pleasure.
Wow, he's getting pretty c0cky.
When interviewers ... fawn ... over a subject (and this read like that to me) it bugs me. I’ve seen and read interviews where I was actually embarrassed for the reporter. (I’m talking about those I’ve seen with Borg, Mac, Pete, Larry ****, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, John Elway, Tiger Woods, Venus, Serena, Andre and now, Roger.)
I don’t know “just where” the line between self-assured and cocky is. But I haven’t decided Federer is “cocky” ... yet.
He considers himself a clay court specialist and repeated on TV that he couldn't believe he wasn't number 1 in 2003 after winning Mickey Mouse events.
IMO, I think for him it's confidence not cockiness. Plus he can back-up what he says like nobody else can. I agree that close matches are good for him, let's him know that he can play his best tennis on the big points. I think not having a close match at the AO actually hurt him, as Safin has had a couple of tough four setters. Federer cake-walked through the draw, even through Agassi until meeting Safin. This is good for him.
What an embarassment! A third-set tiebreaker against a badly slumping Ferrero on a fast court. I am almost glad they didnt show the match on television. It would be hard to see Roger playing as horrable as he must have in this match.
I have this match and I thought it was excellent. Roger could have played better but Ferrero could have also. Ferrero was amazing in this match. His return game was great and his forehand was on fire. I can't tell if your're being sarcastic, but I wouldnt go making assumptions especially if you haven't seen it.
i agree with you so far, splink778...
i just saw the first set, and ferrero did play incredibly...
saving four breaks points...
and seeming to hit winners at will on his forehand side....
i cant wait to see him play during the clay court season...
Slaz you boring ***er, why cheer on FED ? he just wins everything hes a boring robot with no personality, wouldnt it have been better for the game if Ferrero won ?
Simple answer : No
yes it would be better for the game , Ferrero rules!
yes, ferrero rules the 98th place in the world!!
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