Fed, Joker and Rafa fans which slam final loss hurts the worst?

Rafa24

Hall of Fame
Only pick one. No runner ups and additional picks.

Rafa fan here.

Worst loss for me is 2012 AO final. Playing peak Ultron djoker. Up 4-2 in the 5th and at 30-15 missed an easy dink backhand to an open court to go up 40-15.
Not only was it a gut wrenching loss because it was so close to a victory over joker on his court but looking now the slam count would be tie 23-23 assuming all other things stay the same.
 

MeatTornado

Talk Tennis Guru
WC19 tie was bad, but it would of been a cherry on top and wasn't expecting it going into the match.

For me it was 09 USO.
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Rafa fan: another vote for AO 12 but the fact that Djoko had Rafa and likely should’ve won in 4 helped ease the pain lol; that TB in the 4th was absurd for Rafa only to miss a routine bh dtl pass in the 5th at 4-2, 30-5 when Novak seemed to be slightly walkabout at the moment…
 

roysid

Legend
Fed fan.
W19 final takes the cake. Being traumatised by it for a long long time. Still in disbelief.

Before that it was USO 09 final which ended the reign of previous most hurtful loss AO 09 final
 
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mahatma

Hall of Fame
As a Djokovic fan few of these hurt -

1. USO’21 - a win here and it’s CYGS
2. W’23 - a win here and probably again it’s CYGS

Most others against big 3 in finals have been well compensated during his career.
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic fan here. Going by what I felt at the time, 2015 FO final easily hurt the most when the match ended

2021 USO final will go down as being way more historically significant, but I was still relatively unbothered by it. In 2021 I also started to believe Djokovic had a good chance of ending up with the Slam record, regardless of the result of that USO. So it was way easier to get over the loss
 
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Rafa4LifeEver

G.O.A.T.
Only pick one. No runner ups and additional picks.

Rafa fan here.

Worst loss for me is 2012 AO final. Playing peak Ultron djoker. Up 4-2 in the 5th and at 30-15 missed an easy dink backhand to an open court to go up 40-15.
Not only was it a gut wrenching loss because it was so close to a victory over joker on his court but looking now the slam count would be tie 23-23 assuming all other things stay the same.
2012 AO F hurts the most.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
Fed fan.
W19 final takes the cake. Being traumatised by it for a long long time. Still in disbelief.

Before that it was USO 09 final which ended the reign of AO 09 final within 7 months.

Every Fed loss I just brushed off and went back to my life

But not Wimbledon 2019. I was so disgusted I didn't watch tennis for the rest of the season and it took me a while to even get excited about PLAYING it again
 

SamprasisGOAT

Hall of Fame
Djokovic fan here
2012 French Open final and also the 2013 French Open semi-final. Both are super close. In the 2012 final I think Djokovic won 7
straight games. And it looked like Nadal was gone but then the Sun came out. And the 2013 semi-final Was the second greatest clay-court match ever straight after the 2021 semi.

Also, the US open finals in 2012 and 2013 we both tragic losses for Djokovic that he shouldn’t of let happen.

My other favourite player Pete Sampras hardly had a loss that hurt in comparison to most of the other greats. Sampras main rivals just hardly ever got the better of him in the big matches. Maybe Agassi AO 95 is the best candidate.
 

fafa

Semi-Pro
Djokovic fan here
2012 French Open final and also the 2013 French Open semi-final. Both are super close. In the 2012 final I think Djokovic won 7
straight games. And it looked like Nadal was gone but then the Sun came out.
And the 2013 semi-final Was the second greatest clay-court match ever straight after the 2021 semi.

Also, the US open finals in 2012 and 2013 we both tragic losses for Djokovic that he shouldn’t of let happen.

My other favourite player Pete Sampras hardly had a loss that hurt in comparison to most of the other greats. Sampras main rivals just hardly ever got the better of him in the big matches. Maybe Agassi AO 95 is the best candidate.
Match was suspended, even if it wasn't raining much and there was still light, strange decision. Momentum was gone for Novak next day.
 

GoatNo1

Hall of Fame
As a Djokovic fan few of these hurt -

1. USO’21 - a win here and it’s CYGS
2. W’23 - a win here and probably again it’s CYGS

Most others against big 3 in finals have been well compensated during his career.
I did not expected nole to win in 2021 i knew that pressure was to high. W23 Hurt but not as RG13 SF and RG15 F. Nole did not have any RGs back in those days. From this perspective it doesn't look that bad but it hurted back in those days.
 

ChrisRF

Legend
French Open 2006. Would have been the (near) perfect season and a CYGS. Because Federer might be mentally weak at times, but he was so superior that year on grass and hardcourt that even with the additional pressure it wouldn't have been close enough to succumb to it.
 

AO13

Hall of Fame
Probably US Open 2021, because he would achieve something that we probably won't see ever again, at least in our lifetime. Winning all 4 majors in a year on 3 different surfaces in 28 matches across 9 months, you just have to be insanely good to achieve that and be in a great physical and mental shape to do it.​
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
The two that really stand out are the 2014 AO final (never dropped a set to that man, and he was SO GOOD through that tournament) and the 2018 Wimbledon semi (after the Wimbledon struggles of the past 6 years that really sucked).

Honourable mention to the 2011 US Open final, which to me hurt far more than the 2012 AO final, because at least in Australia he was close. I found it encouraging. In New York he was a million miles away.

Another honourable mention to the 2020 WTF loss to Medvedev. Meddy was too goddamn good that day, but he was so close.

I appreciate two of these are not finals, and one isn't even a major, but I don't play by the rules.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
The two that really stand out are the 2014 AO final (never dropped a set to that man, and he was SO GOOD through that tournament) and the 2018 Wimbledon semi (after the Wimbledon struggles of the past 6 years that really sucked).

Honourable mention to the 2011 US Open final, which to me hurt far more than the 2012 AO final, because at least in Australia he was close. I found it encouraging. In New York he was a million miles away.

Another honourable mention to the 2020 WTF loss to Medvedev. Meddy was too goddamn good that day, but he was so close.

I appreciate two of these are not finals, and one isn't even a major, but I don't play by the rules.
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Razer

G.O.A.T.
AO 2009 .... Federer crying after a loss was the most disgusting thing I ever saw... Terrible day, watched it a group of Fed fans and Nadal fans and in the end all of us were feeling bad for Federer ....

Wimbledon 2008 would come next but thats still too far from the AO.
 

messiahrobins

Hall of Fame
Only pick one. No runner ups and additional picks.

Rafa fan here.

Worst loss for me is 2012 AO final. Playing peak Ultron djoker. Up 4-2 in the 5th and at 30-15 missed an easy dink backhand to an open court to go up 40-15.
Not only was it a gut wrenching loss because it was so close to a victory over joker on his court but looking now the slam count would be tie 23-23 assuming all other things stay the same.
AO 2014 by a distance. Rafa was robbed as if his back hadn't gone he wins that in straight sets or at worse 4.
AO 2012 is a misnomer. 1) rafa has always had a weakness with the BHDTL as he doesn't hit through it like Djokovic he slightly hits across it so manybtimes he can push it wide 2) djokovic was the better player anyway that match and should have won it in 4 sets. In actual fact AO 2012 was the match that gave Nadal confidence v Djokovic moving forward and Djokovic may have regretted not stomping on Nadal in that final to keep Rafa down so to speak.
For Djokovic I'm not his fan but I'd think for him surely it's Medvedev USO 2021.
For Federer I'm not his fan but I'd think W2008
 

mahatma

Hall of Fame
How have they been compensated?

Beating Nadal in RG in '21 well compensated the RG'20 loss.

Beating Nadal in RG'15 well compensated RG'13 loss.

Beating Federer in USO and Wimbledon finals during the 2015-19 period well compensated any earlier losses.

Djokovic is still searching for compensation for Wimbledon losses to Alcaraz though
 

messiahrobins

Hall of Fame
Beating Nadal in RG in '21 well compensated the RG'20 loss.

Beating Nadal in RG'15 well compensated RG'13 loss.

Beating Federer in USO and Wimbledon finals during the 2015-19 period well compensated any earlier losses.

Djokovic is still searching for compensation for Wimbledon losses to Alcaraz though
The wins over Federer were when he was early to mid 30s and a shadow of the player he was. Djokovic himself in 2023 a shadow of his former self and 2022 he was mid 30s so think you are being harsh saying he needs compensation for Alcaraz.
As for FO 2015 Djokovic didn't win the event. RG 2021 was a misnomer as Nadal was injured and in any event RG 2022 happened. They never played at a slam again which I think hurts Novak, well I know it does as he openly stated he wanted revenge for that loss at Wimbledon if u recall.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
2015 final against Wawrinka and 2021 final against Medvedev for obvious reasons...for some reason 2023 final against Alcaraz didn't hurt as much, i dunno why...maybe it's because Novak already got slam record prior to that at RG and achieved third career slam dunno...but i definitely remember vivdly not caring about it almost at all...LOL even though that was him losing his yet another bid for CYGS...
 

SonnyT

Legend
'12 AO final changed the course of history for both players, in my opinion. For Nadal, it meant more muscles to go toe-to-toe with Djokovic from the baselines. The speedy Nadal, that bedeviled Federer at '08 WB & '09 AO, was gone.

For Djokovic, he said goodbye to hitting the ball as hard as he could. He became much more measured and clinical in his attack.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Djokovic fan here
2012 French Open final and also the 2013 French Open semi-final. Both are super close. In the 2012 final I think Djokovic won 7
straight games. And it looked like Nadal was gone but then the Sun came out. And the 2013 semi-final Was the second greatest clay-court match ever straight after the 2021 semi.

Also, the US open finals in 2012 and 2013 we both tragic losses for Djokovic that he shouldn’t of let happen.

My other favourite player Pete Sampras hardly had a loss that hurt in comparison to most of the other greats. Sampras main rivals just hardly ever got the better of him in the big matches. Maybe Agassi AO 95 is the best candidate.
I would've thought AO 2000 was a pretty good candidate too. I know as a Sampras fan it was for me at the time.
 

JMR

Hall of Fame
My other favourite player Pete Sampras hardly had a loss that hurt in comparison to most of the other greats. Sampras main rivals just hardly ever got the better of him in the big matches. Maybe Agassi AO 95 is the best candidate.

That's true about Sampras. Most of the Open Era greats who preceded him had some crushing losses and bad career frustrations. Borg never won the USO, although he came close. Lendl never won Wimbledon, although he came close. McEnroe never won the FO, although he came close. I don't think Connors cared that much about winning Roland Garros, which he failed to do, but he certainly took his share of poundings in big matches elsewhere from the other guys.

But Sampras was useless at the FO, so he was probably resigned to his results there. I also think he didn't care all that much about the AO, and he did snag a couple of titles there, so no big deal. He mastered Agassi at the USO and Wim -- undefeated! -- and that was probably what he valued most. I'm sure the losses to Safin and Hewitt at the USO hurt, but they were not close, so I doubt that Pete looks back and thinks, "If only ...!" And then Sampras retired before he had a chance to endure any more potentially painful defeats.

Sampras had relatively few slam finals (18) for a player with 14 slam titles. Maybe he loses some legacy points for being less dominant in that regard, but it also means that he had fewer opportunities to suffer.
 
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