Fed = multilingual?

I read on Wikipedia that:

Federer considers his main language German, but he also speaks French and English fluently.[7] He conducts press conferences in all of them.

Though in many articles I've read state he knows 4 languages. I would gess that he grew up with German and French and started learning English 8 years ago. So what's the mystery 4th language?
 

angharad

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He grew up with English and German . He learned French when he attended a tennis academy in the French-speaking part of Switzerland. I believe he also knows Italian, and a little Spanish.
 

patrick922

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i believe he also speaks a little swedish....he probably got it from peter lundgren. but yeah his main language is german. then he trained in the french speaking part of switzerland and his mother is south african so she probably taught him how to speak english.
 

patrick922

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I guess it is Baslerdiitsch - the German dialect of the Basel area :)
yeah he speaks that as well.... his baslerdiitsch accent is detected when he speaks high german [Hochdeutsch]. you can tell that he is swiss german by the way he speaks high german. it is like an irish guy speaking english....[very flowy and sing songy]
 

Zuras

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Primary language: German
Fluent in: French, English
Speaks but not fluently: spanish
Speaks fluently but not truly a language: Swiss-German.
 

Hartzy

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here is a link where he is speaking high german....notice how he says the german word "aber" [pronounced in german "Ah-bah~r"]......he pronounces it "Ah-boh"http://www.eurosport.de/home/pages/v4/l1/s57/playermultimedia_lng1_rub9_spo57_ven21557.shtml

Not just Swiss German speakers drop the R's. I studies in Düsseldorf last year and they do it as well. You can tell he's Swiss when he speaks High German more because his "ch" comes from the throat not the roof of his mouth and because he's not monotone. But even then, it's hard to say that he's swiss to an extent. Southern Swabian speakers have nearly the same accent when they speak High German.
 

patrick922

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hartzy, would swiss german count as one language because it is different from standard german. so that would be his 4th mystery language: german, english, french, and swiss german.

i recently did a project for my german class about the swiss german dialect and it says that it is a very different from german. i had to read some articles, read some books, learn a few words in swiss german, and i had to listen to recordings of swiss german [the zuerich dialekt], and they do say the 'ch' from the throat [like in the word 'ach']

cool stuff!!!
 
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He can speak: English, German, French, Italian and Spanish...... Whow! :D
 

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Praise has yet to faze Roger Federer. He speaks English, German, French and some Italian and Swedish, and in each language he's showered with adulation. He's touted as one of the greatest players ever, an all-around marvel who's unbeatable at Wimbledon.

He keeps winning despite the hype.
from :
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/6396_1735885,001600200000.htm

+ basel german indeed... but i'm wondering how different it is from german german ;)
+ maybe some czech or slovak from mirka ? :?:

surprising there's no spanish in the package... :rolleyes:
 

Hartzy

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Swiss German is considered a dialect even though I could initially understand Dutch better than Swiss German. I studied 6 years of German, studied in Germany, and grew up with a German speaking grandmother and I still understood nearly nothing. Perhaps what hinders Swiss German from language status is that the dialects differ greatly. In Zürich, I is "ich" with the "ch" coming mostly from the throat. In extreme Western dialects, like Basel, the "ch" is not as exaggerated as in Zürich. In the Eastern dialects, like Sanktgaller Dialekt and Appenzeller Dialekt, the "ch" retains it's power except there are changes such as "ich bin" being "i bi." (younger people from the West sometimes speak like this too)

Another comical example of how unstandardized Swiss German is, is that "oben" (above) is "uni" in Appenzell Innerrhoden, "ufe" in Appenzell Ausserrhoden, and "ue" in the rest of the country with the exception of Wallis I believe. (Wallis dialect is the most unique in all of Switzerland) There are 3 words for above within 15 kilometers of another.

One thing that really distances Swiss German from High German though is the past tense of "be." There is no "ich war" in Swiss German but rather "i bi gsee" or "ich bin gewesen" in High German. When you hear "gsee" it's a tell tale sign that you're listening to an Allemanic dialect.

So, long story short. Swiss German is a dialect but I believe the differences between Swiss German and German are much bigger than say Spanish and Italian. If you are interested in Learning Patrick, learn a very neautral dialect and you can find that you can easily understand other dialects like Swabian and even though Austro-Bavarian dialects to a small extent. My New Year's resolution is to start speaking Swiss German actually;)
 
Another comical example of how unstandardized Swiss German is, is that "oben" (above) is "uni" in Appenzell Innerrhoden, "ufe" in Appenzell Ausserrhoden, and "ue" in the rest of the country with the exception of Wallis
I KNEW IT, I JUST KNEW IT!!! Thanks for the 'heads up' Hartzy

You see Rabbit? it is "ufe" in Appenzell Ausserrhoden!!!! You owe me $20.00~!!!
 

patrick922

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I thought he spoke some Afrikaaner since his dad was South African.
no i dont think he speaks afrikaans....i know he mentioned this somewhere... and his mom was south african not his dad. afrikaans is very similar to dutch
 
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patrick922

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ja ich moechte schweizerdeutsch lernen;) so the 'ich war' part are you saying that swiss german doesnt have praetaritum [simple past]? so they dont have like ging, war, etc. swiss german is interesting i want to learn some but i know it is hard to understand if you already know standard german.... dutch to me is more understandable.
 

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That is why he gets so scared when he plays RAFA the great..........HAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHHHAA.///....
Wow, you're right! He was positively SHAKING in his boots when he beat him in Britain... AND China... AND Korea...
 
Talk about multisexyual.....Thiis one guy? I know heem frrrom band camp?
He speak the Turkmen, Kazakh, Tajik, Kyrgyz, Pashto, Farsi, Ukranian, Azeri AND Russian. He even know a little Uzbek, picked him up at a disco in Tashkent, heheehheee!

Son of beach still owe-ing me 60 Rubles and two she-goat.
 
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Hartzy

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ja ich moechte schweizerdeutsch lernen;) so the 'ich war' part are you saying that swiss german doesnt have praetaritum [simple past]? so they dont have like ging, war, etc. swiss german is interesting i want to learn some but i know it is hard to understand if you already know standard german.... dutch to me is more understandable.
That's a negative on the past tense;) Only one form of past tense and the grammar is pretty simple. Just a whole new vocab.
 
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