BeatlesFan
Talk Tennis Guru
Worth half a billion, uses twins as an excuse skip an event at age 38. Must be right.
Fed withdraws from ATP CUP ..
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HetTheGreaterer
G.O.A.T.
This.
Atp has to find a way past big3/4/5..
Tennease
Legend
I wouldn't mind if he wants to play a warm up event in my backyard. Against me of course.
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
Why would he ever play against someone who will easily thrash him?
Rogfan
Professional
I did the same as you. Then I got replies from them saying we’re offering you complimentary sessions. If you take it, matters resolved. If you don’t, click here to contact us, which takes you back the form you originally filled out. So I filled it again and told them I don’t want anything but a full refund for all the three Switzerland sessions I bought. I spent nearly $1000 on all the tickets.
Yoneyama
Hall of Fame
Yep exact same scenario as me!
I’m sorry for any of you that bought tickets. Thats such an inconvenience.
To everyone else, you don’t seem to understand that he is playing all he can play. The other choice is to retire. So if you are a fed fan, be happy with the appearances he does make, because the alternative is retirement. It’s shocking that these people think of themselves as fans but dont see the person they support as a human.
To everyone else, you don’t seem to understand that he is playing all he can play. The other choice is to retire. So if you are a fed fan, be happy with the appearances he does make, because the alternative is retirement. It’s shocking that these people think of themselves as fans but dont see the person they support as a human.
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
It's not an inconvenience. It is a Sham. People who purchased those tickets are entitled to a Full Refund as they are not being delivered what they were promised.
Federer has plenty of money. If he is truly a compassionate "Human" he will demand the Tournament Organisers provide Full Refunds to any ticket-holder who requests one even if he pays it out of his own "ample" pockets. He made a commitment and will not fulfil it. Otherwise he is also a party to the Sham.
He is one of the most successful Sports people of all time. Tennis has been exceptionally good to him. And much of that has to do with his fans. He insults them and the sport in general by making a commitment, not keeping it, and allowing many people to be financially disadvantaged as a result through no fault of their own. It is not a good look and given his time in the sport, he should know better.
Disappointing to say the least. Sham at worst.
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clayqueen
G.O.A.T.
Roger Federer defends decision to ditch ATP Cup despite planning string of exhibitions
George Bellshaw Friday 8 Nov 2019 1:17 pm
Roger Federer has defended his decision to pull out of the inaugural ATP Cup in Australia at the start of next season, despite signing up to a string of exhibitions either side of the event. While he won’t travel to Australia early to compete in Sydney for ‘family reasons’, Federer will travel to China two days after Christmas to play in an exhibition event, while he’s scheduled multiple exhibition stops in South America following his participation in the ATP Finals in London next week, as well as a trip to South Africa – to play a match with great rival Rafael Nadal – after the Australian Open. As a result of him pulling out, Switzerland – who were scheduled to be Great Britain’s first opponents – have now not qualified, with Stan Wawrinka also opting against playing the event.
At the time of his withdrawal, Federer said: ‘After much discussion with both my family and my team about the year ahead, I have decided that the extra two weeks at home will be beneficial for both my family and my tennis.
‘It pains me to not be a part of the most exciting new event on the calendar, but this is the right thing to do if I want to continue to play for a longer period of time on the ATP Tour.’ Quizzed over personal decisions really being the main motivation behind the decision, Federer defended the move and admitted the ATP Cup was the most expendable spot in his carefully devised calendar in order to make room for some extra family time.
‘When we had to sign up for the ATP Cup it was shortly after Wimbledon, for me it was always a logical to play the first week,’ he said at the O2 on Friday afternoon. ‘The South America exo tour was already long in scheduling, something I’d wanted to do for a long time. I couldn’t do it because of my knee, because of my children, couldn’t do it the year after or two years after because it was going to be too much. ‘South America was a priority for me. ATP Cup too to play the first week. Then when I realised Stan wasn’t gong to play, the family wasn’t going to travel to Sydney, I’d rather stay at home with the family. Train easy and make priority Australian Open and the World Tour Finals.
‘Got the dream match with Rafa on February 7, I’ve been trying to get a date with Rafa for last two or three years. That was always going to be a priority for me as well.
‘Something had to give, that was the ATP Cup. I just felt I was going to be very happy to play but it wasn’t that level of importance for me. ‘That was that. Normally I don’t take these kinds of decisions like this but I kind of got into that situation having to take a decision after Wimbledon. ‘And it was also a little bit connected – I know you might take this as a joke, but it’s not – to announcing Olympics. My family was always going to travel with me to Japan. ‘With my wife we try to come up with a really good schedule for the kids. At the end we weren’t ready to do. We wanted to be in the same place for a long time. I don’t think it’s contradictory at all.’
Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/08/roger-federer-defends-decision-ditch-atp-cup-despite-planning-string-exhibitions-11066771/?ico=pushly-notifcation-small&utm_source=pushly?ito=cbshare
George Bellshaw Friday 8 Nov 2019 1:17 pm
Roger Federer has defended his decision to pull out of the inaugural ATP Cup in Australia at the start of next season, despite signing up to a string of exhibitions either side of the event. While he won’t travel to Australia early to compete in Sydney for ‘family reasons’, Federer will travel to China two days after Christmas to play in an exhibition event, while he’s scheduled multiple exhibition stops in South America following his participation in the ATP Finals in London next week, as well as a trip to South Africa – to play a match with great rival Rafael Nadal – after the Australian Open. As a result of him pulling out, Switzerland – who were scheduled to be Great Britain’s first opponents – have now not qualified, with Stan Wawrinka also opting against playing the event.
At the time of his withdrawal, Federer said: ‘After much discussion with both my family and my team about the year ahead, I have decided that the extra two weeks at home will be beneficial for both my family and my tennis.
‘It pains me to not be a part of the most exciting new event on the calendar, but this is the right thing to do if I want to continue to play for a longer period of time on the ATP Tour.’ Quizzed over personal decisions really being the main motivation behind the decision, Federer defended the move and admitted the ATP Cup was the most expendable spot in his carefully devised calendar in order to make room for some extra family time.
‘When we had to sign up for the ATP Cup it was shortly after Wimbledon, for me it was always a logical to play the first week,’ he said at the O2 on Friday afternoon. ‘The South America exo tour was already long in scheduling, something I’d wanted to do for a long time. I couldn’t do it because of my knee, because of my children, couldn’t do it the year after or two years after because it was going to be too much. ‘South America was a priority for me. ATP Cup too to play the first week. Then when I realised Stan wasn’t gong to play, the family wasn’t going to travel to Sydney, I’d rather stay at home with the family. Train easy and make priority Australian Open and the World Tour Finals.
‘Got the dream match with Rafa on February 7, I’ve been trying to get a date with Rafa for last two or three years. That was always going to be a priority for me as well.
‘Something had to give, that was the ATP Cup. I just felt I was going to be very happy to play but it wasn’t that level of importance for me. ‘That was that. Normally I don’t take these kinds of decisions like this but I kind of got into that situation having to take a decision after Wimbledon. ‘And it was also a little bit connected – I know you might take this as a joke, but it’s not – to announcing Olympics. My family was always going to travel with me to Japan. ‘With my wife we try to come up with a really good schedule for the kids. At the end we weren’t ready to do. We wanted to be in the same place for a long time. I don’t think it’s contradictory at all.’
Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/08/roger-federer-defends-decision-ditch-atp-cup-despite-planning-string-exhibitions-11066771/?ico=pushly-notifcation-small&utm_source=pushly?ito=cbshare
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
Well it is good that Roger has explained his situation a bit further.
Did he have anything to say to his adoring fans who paid premium prices for Tickets to see him, on the basis that he was going to play in the ATP Cup?
Did he have anything to say to his adoring fans who paid premium prices for Tickets to see him, on the basis that he was going to play in the ATP Cup?
clayqueen
G.O.A.T.
His fans are demanding a refund from the organisers instead of demanding compensation from Federer.
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
Well aware of that.
My point is that Federer has the influence to "suggest" to the Tournament Organisers that they uphold the high standards that he has been known for during his stellar tennis career.
Tennease
Legend
You'd be surprised. I've got the home court advantage. The wild ducks will fly over him and do a suresh on his every serve.Why would he ever play against someone who will easily thrash him?
accidental
Hall of Fame
Yes as pure tennis fans we should all be equally happy to see literally any other professional player instead of Roger Federer
I make no secret of the fact that I am not a fan of slow court tennis and the baseline bashing that is the modern poly game. Despite this, I would purchase tickets, flights (I live almost 1000km from Sydney), accommodation and everything else required to see Federer play again before he retires.
I'd probably also do it to watch fifty-something year old Edberg play almost 50 year old Sampras, but I have no interest in spending thousands of dollars to watch a bunch of guys whose tennis I don't think is as interesting as that which I have seen before. I'll probably go watch some of the Brisbane matches when the tickets are unsold and discounted, but at this stage I don't know which ones. Perhaps Australia/Canada, or if the final group A spot goes to someone interesting, them vs France.
If that upsets the fans of the baseline bots, then tough luck. I'm happy to settle it with any of them on the tennis court (old school grass, 90sq inch racquet heads, without poly).
I'd probably also do it to watch fifty-something year old Edberg play almost 50 year old Sampras, but I have no interest in spending thousands of dollars to watch a bunch of guys whose tennis I don't think is as interesting as that which I have seen before. I'll probably go watch some of the Brisbane matches when the tickets are unsold and discounted, but at this stage I don't know which ones. Perhaps Australia/Canada, or if the final group A spot goes to someone interesting, them vs France.
If that upsets the fans of the baseline bots, then tough luck. I'm happy to settle it with any of them on the tennis court (old school grass, 90sq inch racquet heads, without poly
).
clayqueen
G.O.A.T.
Such as the point penalty he got for unsportsmanlike conduct against Zverev in Shanghai?
It serves the establishment right that Federer has shown his true colours, i.e looking after himself despite all the greasing they've done of his path.
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
Your sincere concerns for the Fed fans really warm the cockles of my heart.
BTW, what is the reason to post that comment on this board?
Rogfan
Professional
Maybe I’m biased coz I got screwed by his decision with the tickets, but I just thought his excuse was lame. If Stan was so important in his decision making, why didn’t he check with Stan before he signed up? Obviously he would have known once he announced, crazy fans would jump on the tickets as rarely we have the chance to know we’re buying to see Federer. I’d have thought someone as sophisticated as him would be more careful in announcing such a commitment, especially if as he said Stan was part of that decision making.
The only logical explanation I have is the China exho came up after his ATP Cup decision and for some reason he couldn’t say no. As the time between these two event is too short, playing both would mean he’d be spending a whole month right after Christmas in China and Australia. In the end he prioritised the exho over ATP Cup. Sponsors come before fans.
By the way ATP Cup and Ticketmaster are really not in a hurry to refund. I’d be happy if I ever get my money back.
The only logical explanation I have is the China exho came up after his ATP Cup decision and for some reason he couldn’t say no. As the time between these two event is too short, playing both would mean he’d be spending a whole month right after Christmas in China and Australia. In the end he prioritised the exho over ATP Cup. Sponsors come before fans.
By the way ATP Cup and Ticketmaster are really not in a hurry to refund. I’d be happy if I ever get my money back.
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
It looks like you are really set in your beliefs that Federer should consult with you before making his decisions where to sign up for participation and where to withdraw.
youngpolyhater
Rookie
Funnily enough,
I don't see any user named grassqueen,FedGOAT,weakclayera in here.
I do see clayqueen,RafaGOAT,weakera.
Wonder why.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Its hundreds of names w Fed in it.
Many not so active anymore since he ain’t wining that much.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
I didn’t say thatYes as pure tennis fans we should all be equally happy to see literally any other professional player instead of Roger Federer
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
WOW, you really captured the essence of the existence of some around here.Yes as pure tennis fans we should all be equally happy to see literally any other professional player instead of Roger Federer
youngpolyhater
Rookie
Same people celebrated Federer getting injured during USO.Yes as pure tennis fans we should all be equally happy to see literally any other professional player instead of Roger Federer
What else can be expected from such lowlifes
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, you tell me.
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
I wanted to see whether you would troll me yet again.
And I miss seeing
and even .Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
Weak response.I wanted to see whether you would troll me yet again.
And I miss seeing
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
Indeed, something you are expert at.
Another one to add to the Block List. Suggest you save your precious time and riveting repartee by doing the same.
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
Do as you please, but don't make the mistake to advise me to follow your ways of doing things.
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Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
advise !!!
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
Pleased to hear it. Afaic, that is the appropriate response by the Tournament Organisers given the circumstances
Should be a Great Event regardless.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
what a weird calendar... those guys will have the impression to play 2x downgraded piqué-salsa davis cups (sort of similar to the extinct world team cup, after all) within less than 2 months
add the laver cup exo-circus (a few weeks earlier) to the mix and you get a total mess......
add the laver cup exo-circus (a few weeks earlier) to the mix and you get a total mess......
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Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
It feels like the beginning of the Open era all over again, except, this time ATP is doing much of the damage.what a weird calendar... those guys will have the impression to play 2x downgraded piqué-salsa davis cups (sort of similar the extinct world team cup, after all) within less than 2 months
add the laver cup exo-circus (a few weeks earlier) to the mix and you get a total mess......
IndeedIt feels like the beginning of the Open era all over again, except, this time ATP is doing much of the damage.
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
https://wwos.nine.com.au/tennis/kyrgios-dying-tennis-needs-team-events/25b4b4a1-874a-4627-8235-4736ca8e3a8dwhat a weird calendar... those guys will have the impression to play 2x downgraded piqué-salsa davis cups (sort of similar the extinct world team cup, after all) within less than 2 months
add the laver cup exo-circus (a few weeks earlier) to the mix and you get a total mess......
I know it is Nick ... but he may have an interesting point !!!
Forget the messenger, the point is completely correct.
No-one gives a rats about 250s, virtually no-one even watches 500s! But if there were home and away Davis Cup ties scheduled during the year in between the slams, stadiums would be packed and at the very least, interest from the countries involved would be huge. It would be good for tennis at all levels.
BUT .. that would require the ATP to bend its schedule to facilitate ITF events. And therein lies the problem. Meanwhile, Rome burns.
Rogfan
Professional
Lucky you! I’m still waiting for mine
Yoneyama
Hall of Fame
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Atleast you know you will get it now. When I first requested one they would not confirm whether I would get one or not, just that it would be considered...
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
But nickie hates tennis and loves team sports,
whereas I love tennis and hate team sports
Also, tennis can't work like team sports as it doesn't have the same kind of fanbase (except -a bit- for home/away DC ties)
For some countries (e.g. Serbia?), DC was even the only option to see their players in action... it's gone now :/
Yes, the home and away ties is a large part of Davis Cup. Take that away and it's just not the same.But nickie hates tennis and loves team sports,
whereas I love tennis and hate team sports
Also, tennis can't work like team sports as it doesn't have the same kind of fanbase (except -a bit- for home/away DC ties)
For some countries (e.g. Serbia?), DC was even the only option to see their players in action... it's gone now :/
Forehanderer
Rookie
Fans need to get real. Fedalovic are not gods. They can't play forever and they are not THAT nice. Sorry to bust your bubbles fellas. They are trying to maximize their final years and they are going to concentrate on whatever they found valuable whether it is slams, post retirement plans, money, improving their brand image, etc. They may or may not participate in tournaments in the twilight part of their careers. They won't tell you because they themselves are not in total control of their schedule. They have a team to schedule where they will play based on their health, monetary commitments, etc. Don't expect the tour organizers to tell you in advance either because it will hurt their coffers.
The onus is on the fans to be realistic. Is watching Fedalovic in their last years worth spending $1000s to spend on tickets, hotel stay, food, flight prices and not to mention the hassle of travel. If so, you are on your own. There is a 50% chance that they may pull out. If you are rich enough to afford that, go on ahead. If not, keep the money and watch whatever they show on TV.
The onus is on the fans to be realistic. Is watching Fedalovic in their last years worth spending $1000s to spend on tickets, hotel stay, food, flight prices and not to mention the hassle of travel. If so, you are on your own. There is a 50% chance that they may pull out. If you are rich enough to afford that, go on ahead. If not, keep the money and watch whatever they show on TV.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
So well said!! Thank you!
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Nole14_15NoPressure
Guest
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
On the whole Team thing ...
I think they should consider an Event that has the best of both worlds. Multiple Qualifying Rounds in Home/Away format during the year. And a Finals Round that includes the Top 8 teams played over three days in the Nation of the team that finishes on top at the end of the Qualifying Rounds.
I think they should consider an Event that has the best of both worlds. Multiple Qualifying Rounds in Home/Away format during the year. And a Finals Round that includes the Top 8 teams played over three days in the Nation of the team that finishes on top at the end of the Qualifying Rounds.
Rogfan
Professional
I know right. It’s a big relief to know you got it. Hopefully it won’t be too long. I actually look forward to watching some quarters and semis with my money back.