Fed withdraws from ATP CUP ..

If you look beyond the Fed withdrawal, this highlights much deeper issues in the ATP. I get that the ATP wants to milk Fedal as much as they can while these guys are still around but those days are numbered, they need to find a strategy for the longer term. If the only way they can sell a tournament is with these 2 then I'm sorry but the tour will have a hard time surviving when these 2 are gone. As they say, don't lay all your eggs in the same basket...
This.
Atp has to find a way past big3/4/5..
 

Rogfan

Semi-Pro
I finally got a response from Ticketek. They did not immediately offer a refund, instead have given me the option to keep my session and see what ever country qualifies, or change my ticket to any other session. They made no reference at all to the fact that the Switzerland tickets cost extra. I have now escalated the refund request further. Anyone else trying to get a refund?
I did the same as you. Then I got replies from them saying we’re offering you complimentary sessions. If you take it, matters resolved. If you don’t, click here to contact us, which takes you back the form you originally filled out. So I filled it again and told them I don’t want anything but a full refund for all the three Switzerland sessions I bought. I spent nearly $1000 on all the tickets.
 

Yoneyama

Professional
I did the same as you. Then I got replies from them saying we’re offering you complimentary sessions. If you take it, matters resolved. If you don’t, click here to contact us, which takes you back the form you originally filled out. So I filled it again and told them I don’t want anything but a full refund for all the three Switzerland sessions I bought. I spent nearly $1000 on all the tickets.
Yep exact same scenario as me!
 

Nicholo

Rookie
I’m sorry for any of you that bought tickets. Thats such an inconvenience.

To everyone else, you don’t seem to understand that he is playing all he can play. The other choice is to retire. So if you are a fed fan, be happy with the appearances he does make, because the alternative is retirement. It’s shocking that these people think of themselves as fans but dont see the person they support as a human.
 

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
I’m sorry for any of you that bought tickets. Thats such an inconvenience.

To everyone else, you don’t seem to understand that he is playing all he can play. The other choice is to retire. So if you are a fed fan, be happy with the appearances he does make, because the alternative is retirement. It’s shocking that these people think of themselves as fans but dont see the person they support as a human.
It's not an inconvenience. It is a Sham. People who purchased those tickets are entitled to a Full Refund as they are not being delivered what they were promised.

Federer has plenty of money. If he is truly a compassionate "Human" he will demand the Tournament Organisers provide Full Refunds to any ticket-holder who requests one even if he pays it out of his own "ample" pockets. He made a commitment and will not fulfil it. Otherwise he is also a party to the Sham.

He is one of the most successful Sports people of all time. Tennis has been exceptionally good to him. And much of that has to do with his fans. He insults them and the sport in general by making a commitment, not keeping it, and allowing many people to be financially disadvantaged as a result through no fault of their own. It is not a good look and given his time in the sport, he should know better.

Disappointing to say the least. Sham at worst.
 
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clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
Roger Federer defends decision to ditch ATP Cup despite planning string of exhibitions
George Bellshaw Friday 8 Nov 2019 1:17 pm

Roger Federer has defended his decision to pull out of the inaugural ATP Cup in Australia at the start of next season, despite signing up to a string of exhibitions either side of the event. While he won’t travel to Australia early to compete in Sydney for ‘family reasons’, Federer will travel to China two days after Christmas to play in an exhibition event, while he’s scheduled multiple exhibition stops in South America following his participation in the ATP Finals in London next week, as well as a trip to South Africa – to play a match with great rival Rafael Nadal – after the Australian Open. As a result of him pulling out, Switzerland – who were scheduled to be Great Britain’s first opponents – have now not qualified, with Stan Wawrinka also opting against playing the event.

At the time of his withdrawal, Federer said: ‘After much discussion with both my family and my team about the year ahead, I have decided that the extra two weeks at home will be beneficial for both my family and my tennis.

‘It pains me to not be a part of the most exciting new event on the calendar, but this is the right thing to do if I want to continue to play for a longer period of time on the ATP Tour.’ Quizzed over personal decisions really being the main motivation behind the decision, Federer defended the move and admitted the ATP Cup was the most expendable spot in his carefully devised calendar in order to make room for some extra family time.

‘When we had to sign up for the ATP Cup it was shortly after Wimbledon, for me it was always a logical to play the first week,’ he said at the O2 on Friday afternoon. ‘The South America exo tour was already long in scheduling, something I’d wanted to do for a long time. I couldn’t do it because of my knee, because of my children, couldn’t do it the year after or two years after because it was going to be too much. ‘South America was a priority for me. ATP Cup too to play the first week. Then when I realised Stan wasn’t gong to play, the family wasn’t going to travel to Sydney, I’d rather stay at home with the family. Train easy and make priority Australian Open and the World Tour Finals.

‘Got the dream match with Rafa on February 7, I’ve been trying to get a date with Rafa for last two or three years. That was always going to be a priority for me as well.

‘Something had to give, that was the ATP Cup. I just felt I was going to be very happy to play but it wasn’t that level of importance for me. ‘That was that. Normally I don’t take these kinds of decisions like this but I kind of got into that situation having to take a decision after Wimbledon. ‘And it was also a little bit connected – I know you might take this as a joke, but it’s not – to announcing Olympics. My family was always going to travel with me to Japan. ‘With my wife we try to come up with a really good schedule for the kids. At the end we weren’t ready to do. We wanted to be in the same place for a long time. I don’t think it’s contradictory at all.’


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/08/roger-federer-defends-decision-ditch-atp-cup-despite-planning-string-exhibitions-11066771/?ico=pushly-notifcation-small&utm_source=pushly?ito=cbshare
 

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
Well it is good that Roger has explained his situation a bit further.

Did he have anything to say to his adoring fans who paid premium prices for Tickets to see him, on the basis that he was going to play in the ATP Cup?
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
Well it is good that Roger has explained his situation a bit further.

Did he have anything to say to his adoring fans who paid premium prices for Tickets to see him, on the basis that he was going to play in the ATP Cup?
His fans are demanding a refund from the organisers instead of demanding compensation from Federer.
 

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
His fans are demanding a refund from the organisers instead of demanding compensation from Federer.
Well aware of that.

My point is that Federer has the influence to "suggest" to the Tournament Organisers that they uphold the high standards that he has been known for during his stellar tennis career.
 

tonylg

Professional
I make no secret of the fact that I am not a fan of slow court tennis and the baseline bashing that is the modern poly game. Despite this, I would purchase tickets, flights (I live almost 1000km from Sydney), accommodation and everything else required to see Federer play again before he retires.

I'd probably also do it to watch fifty-something year old Edberg play almost 50 year old Sampras, but I have no interest in spending thousands of dollars to watch a bunch of guys whose tennis I don't think is as interesting as that which I have seen before. I'll probably go watch some of the Brisbane matches when the tickets are unsold and discounted, but at this stage I don't know which ones. Perhaps Australia/Canada, or if the final group A spot goes to someone interesting, them vs France.

If that upsets the fans of the baseline bots, then tough luck. I'm happy to settle it with any of them on the tennis court (old school grass, 90sq inch racquet heads, without poly ;)).
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
Well aware of that.

My point is that Federer has the influence to "suggest" to the Tournament Organisers that they uphold the high standards that he has been known for during his stellar tennis career.
Such as the point penalty he got for unsportsmanlike conduct against Zverev in Shanghai?

It serves the establishment right that Federer has shown his true colours, i.e looking after himself despite all the greasing they've done of his path.
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
Well it is good that Roger has explained his situation a bit further.

Did he have anything to say to his adoring fans who paid premium prices for Tickets to see him, on the basis that he was going to play in the ATP Cup?
Your sincere concerns for the Fed fans really warm the cockles of my heart.

BTW, what is the reason to post that comment on this board?

8-B
 

Rogfan

Semi-Pro
Maybe I’m biased coz I got screwed by his decision with the tickets, but I just thought his excuse was lame. If Stan was so important in his decision making, why didn’t he check with Stan before he signed up? Obviously he would have known once he announced, crazy fans would jump on the tickets as rarely we have the chance to know we’re buying to see Federer. I’d have thought someone as sophisticated as him would be more careful in announcing such a commitment, especially if as he said Stan was part of that decision making.

The only logical explanation I have is the China exho came up after his ATP Cup decision and for some reason he couldn’t say no. As the time between these two event is too short, playing both would mean he’d be spending a whole month right after Christmas in China and Australia. In the end he prioritised the exho over ATP Cup. Sponsors come before fans.

By the way ATP Cup and Ticketmaster are really not in a hurry to refund. I’d be happy if I ever get my money back.
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
Maybe I’m biased coz I got screwed by his decision with the tickets, but I just thought his excuse was lame. If Stan was so important in his decision making, why didn’t he check with Stan before he signed up? Obviously he would have known once he announced, crazy fans would jump on the tickets as rarely we have the chance to know we’re buying to see Federer. I’d have thought someone as sophisticated as him would be more careful in announcing such a commitment, especially if as he said Stan was part of that decision making.

The only logical explanation I have is the China exho came up after his ATP Cup decision and for some reason he couldn’t say no. As the time between these two event is too short, playing both would mean he’d be spending a whole month right after Christmas in China and Australia. In the end he prioritised the exho over ATP Cup. Sponsors come before fans.

By the way ATP Cup and Ticketmaster are really not in a hurry to refund. I’d be happy if I ever get my money back.
It looks like you are really set in your beliefs that Federer should consult with you before making his decisions where to sign up for participation and where to withdraw.

:cool:
 

Rogfan

Semi-Pro
I hope him prioritising an AO warm up official event over an exho won’t come back to bite him in AO
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
Indeed, something you are expert at.

Another one to add to the Block List. Suggest you save your precious time and riveting repartee by doing the same.
Do as you please, but don't make the mistake to advise me to follow your ways of doing things.

:cool:
 
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