Fedal similarity post winning 20th Grand slam

Nadal_King

Hall of Fame
Roger and Rafa both sit at 20 Grand slams an interesting similarity I found is both in there next grand slam they competed after winning 20th Gs lost in similar fashion in qf losing from 2 sets up and for federer it has been downhill since then as he hasn't been the same force at slams with his best display in Wimbledon 19 also showed glimpses of the mental lapses he sort of showed in Wimbledon 2018, it will be interesting to see if rafa faces similar circumstances although he has Rg coming but being equal and chasing that elusive one to become leader in gs tally may play on his mind
 

Beckerserve

Legend
Roger and Rafa both sit at 20 Grand slams an interesting similarity I found is both in there next grand slam they competed after winning 20th Gs lost in similar fashion in qf losing from 2 sets up and for federer it has been downhill since then as he hasn't been the same force at slams with his best display in Wimbledon 19 also showed glimpses of the mental lapses he sort of showed in Wimbledon 2018, it will be interesting to see if rafa faces similar circumstances although he has Rg coming but being equal and chasing that elusive one to become leader in gs tally may play on his mind
Rafa looks more relaxed nowadays. Im not sure he and Federer are that bothered now who out of the two of them win slam race as long as one of them does. Their South africa charity match i think removed any rivalry. Yes they would like to be top dog but i dont think either is that worried who out of the two them ends up on top.
Neither want Djokovic there. Djokovic off court behaviour i think has annoyed them and stopping Djokovic i would imagine is more important. Some people say Djokovic having the slam count would be bad for the game.
 
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Deleted member 748597

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At the moment:
Federer ~ Nadal > Djokovic.

In the next 2 years:
Nadal ~ Djokovic > Federer

In the next 5 years:
I don't want to say what I think.
Yeah, who cares about the #1 metrics. They aren't even a tie-breaker now.
 

TheAssassin

Legend
Interesting that as 20 time champs they both lost to Tsitsipas in AO after having chances to run away with the match completely.

I think Nadal is still way too ahead of the rest on clay to not win another RG. But if he gets pushed hard you never know, he's no longer a safe bet in marathon matches. Last year Sinner missed the opportunity to take the lead and Djokovic was just a little short in the third set. Hopefully someone puts him under bigger test next time just to see his response. For what it's worth I'd still bet on him to overcome that.
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Give it up. Not only a 2 Slams lead reinforces Nadal's hierarchy, a 3 Slam lead is coming at RG.

The Grand Slam count is the #1 metric of greatness. Other criteria are just tie-breakers in case two players are tied in the Slam count.

Yep. All decent Nadal fans will admit Federer is the greatest ever as we stand.

Nadal needs a few more big trophies before he can be considered greater. Not just slam 21.

In an ideal world, id take 2 more RG, and 1 USO in slams, along with at least another YE#1, and some more Masters victories (off clay would help ).

I doubt he wins the YEC or another Wimbledon, so ill leave them out of the conversation.
 
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Deleted member 748597

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Yep. All decent Nadal fans will admit Federer is the greatest ever as we stand.

Nadal needs a few more big trophies before he can be considered greater. Not just slam 21.

In an ideal world, id take 2 more RG, and 1 USO in slams, along with at least another YE#1, and some more Masters victories (off clay would help ).

I doubt he wins the YEC or another Wimbledon, so ill leave them out of the conversation.
But Sport has Federer and Nadal as equals right now.
 

DIMI_D

Hall of Fame
Yep. All decent Nadal fans will admit Federer is the greatest ever as we stand.

Nadal needs a few more big trophies before he can be considered greater. Not just slam 21.

In an ideal world, id take 2 more RG, and 1 USO in slams, along with at least another YE#1, and some more Masters victories (off clay would help ).

I doubt he wins the YEC or another Wimbledon, so ill leave them out of the conversation.
He has a shot at Wimbledon as well not many good grass players at the moment, 1 RG and any other non clay slam would be enough for sure to be considered greater than Fed
 

BauerAlmeida

Hall of Fame
Give it up. Not only a 2 Slams lead reinforces Nadal's hierarchy, a 3 Slam lead is coming at RG.

The Grand Slam count is the #1 metric of greatness. Other criteria are just tie-breakers in case two players are tied in the Slam count.

Lol, Djokovic would be comfortably ahead of Nadal if he finishes only one slam behind.
 

BauerAlmeida

Hall of Fame
Yep. All decent Nadal fans will admit Federer is the greatest ever as we stand.

Nadal needs a few more big trophies before he can be considered greater. Not just slam 21.

In an ideal world, id take 2 more RG, and 1 USO in slams, along with at least another YE#1, and some more Masters victories (off clay would help ).

I doubt he wins the YEC or another Wimbledon, so ill leave them out of the conversation.

I think Wimbledon or AO would be more beneficial than USO for him. And winning YEC would be huge, he'd be the only player with Agassi with 4 Slams + YEC + Gold. Lack of YEC and amount of weeks at #1 are the biggest holes in his resume, weeks at #1 will be hard for him to improve, but YEC he can get.
 

DIMI_D

Hall of Fame
I think Wimbledon or AO would be more beneficial than USO for him. And winning YEC would be huge, he'd be the only player with Agassi with 4 Slams + YEC + Gold. Lack of YEC and amount of weeks at #1 are the biggest holes in his resume, weeks at #1 will be hard for him to improve, but YEC he can get.
Changing to Turin so who knows but there are a lot of players ahead of him on indoors.. yes for sure AO would be huge but I don’t see that happening he is 35 this year I think 2-3 max FOs before he retires the US is on laykold now like Miami masters so it’s faster than deco turf so that makes it less favourable but still his best chance outside FO to get another slam. YE NO1 he could sneak in and get but window is closing.
 

Enceladus

Legend
At the moment:
Federer ~ Nadal > Djokovic.

In the next 2 years:
Nadal ~ Djokovic > Federer

In the next 5 years:
I don't want to say what I think.
I remember you wrote about tie-breaks in the past when two tennis players had the same number of Grand Slam titles. Weeks at No. 1, WTF titles, total number of ATP titles, Masters titles. Most of the statistics are in Federer's favor, so he should still be above Nadal.
 
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