Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by kimguroo, Jun 3, 2018.
Or sell the ones that are already produced.
No, he doesn't.
"Not sure how this whole Federer Nike story will play out. Big surprise that it is even an issue. But my understanding, from an industry source, is that the "RF" brand is not Nike's in perpetuity. Rights to it would revert to Federer at some stage if he does not re-sign with Nike"
I agree but there have been RF Foundation items which aren't by Nike. There have been other items but currently there's still this stuff:
RF will sue Nike for using his name, who know.
Nothing would surprise me.
Lendl once signed a deal with Mizuno that everyone was amazed by the value of and that was back in 1990-ish. Then Agassi came along and signed - from Memory - a close to $100m deal with them (across 10 or so years).
Lebron James in 2003 signed a 7 year, $100m deal with Nike which is over $14m/year.
Kevin Durant signed a 10 year deal with Nike in 2014 worth "as much as $300m" according to Forbes.
Rory McIlroy got a 10 year deal with Nike for circa $300m in 2012.
These, and others, are good examples of why talk that UNIQLO paying Federer $30m a year being impossible could be well wrong. He has every single card up his sleeve except youth and ticks every box you can imagine for what you look for in an athlete for global marketing - much moreso than any of those mentioned above here. In plenty of ways Federer is a much bigger ticket than James, Durant or others who have signed these huge endorsement deals. He has the clean-cut, married, nice-guy thing going on which matters a lot to many brands. You could even argue the fact he's white helps here, especially in Asia and the Middle East.
Add this to the fact he can be credibly marketed as one of the greatest sportspeople of all time.
A $30m/yr deal wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I'm not arguing that it's happening/happened but it's not as outrageous as some people here think.
Imagine also is he moves to UNIQLO. Nike's policy of not allowing other sponsors on their top athletes' clothing also disappears. Are we going to see Federer with lots of logos on his clothing like Nishikori?
It would just not be right to see Fed in anything else. Especially in some cheap poly junk from Uniqlo. The RF line has an elegance- Uniqlo just looks cheap.
At least cheap poly junk from Uniqlo doesn't give people jogger's nipples like cheap poly junk from Nike does.
Watch interview of Federer yesterday, he weared noname shirt, not Nike.
that is a very good memory you have there!
Do you mean this shirt? It's actually a Nike shirt.
I think this one, i just did not notice swoosh
Maybe Uniqlo will have a special line for him with less branding.
^^ FYI: Whenever you see the "5 dot print" on Federer Nike gear it represents the time his father was fed up with his behavior and left him with five francs for the bus to find his way home by himself, plus it's kind of like the Swiss Cross.
Ive been trying to figure this out myself. It may be because Nike has a controlling administrative link to the RF Foundation similar to what used to be the case with Nike and Lance Armstrong's charity foundation. That might explain the use of proprietary elements.
Still too early to figure out exactly what is going on there....
Couldn't agree more with Bobby Jr. Federer is a superstar and (still) THE superstar of tennis. Look how all the media is hyped for his return in Stuttgart. Rafa just won his 11th RG title and people seem more interested and excited for Fed's return and his chances in Wimbledon. I like Rafa and one has to give him all the credit for his achievements but Fed is another level (overall and globally). That said, I am convinced that Nike is 100% aware of this and that's why I am confident they will reach an agreement.
PS: I think it's way less about tennis gear sales but brand recognition.
This is true, man. It's more about brand recognition than sales at this point.
He's now playing vs Mischa Zverev, he's using the latest Nike RF kit and shoes.
Still wearing the Nike outfit that he was supposed to debut.
back to Vapor X today
Which kind of leads me to believe he's leaning toward staying with Nike, because if he's already out of contract then he can wear whatever he wants, but is choosing to still wear Nike, which I'm sure they're providing him the apparel, but still, I think they're probably hammering out some type of long term or lifetime deal. I'm thinking both sides will want to have a deal in place by Wimbledon.
Yep, I mean I like the Nike golf polos, but I don't play golf.
Uhh, you do realize if Federer continues to wear Nike and he doesn't have a contract, and someone of his stature is wearing the brand, it's like free marketing for Nike, right? Not to mention right this moment, the whole tennis world anticipated Federer's return after the long clay season. EVERYBODY is watching.
If I was Nike, I'd be like "yeah go ahead, keep wearing our stuff for now, we'll talk money later".
You just made my point...
Ok, now i see. But TV did not show the full picture.
In the words of jerry mcgauire (spelling?)...
Show me the money!!!!!
sorry but even people in west covina know who fed is
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