Federer 2017 > Nadal 2022

[DanG7]

Season openers 20-1 each

don’t think it’s even up for debate which season is more impressive.
Federer beat nadal on route to 3 of his titles (Aus, Indian wells, miami) strength of competition was much higher, 1 GS and 2 masters compared to a GS some 250 glorified warm up and a 500. Put on top of that Nadal is vulturing due to Djokovic being thrown out of top competitions left right and centre (Let them play europe clay swing please tennis gods)

Put 17 era Federer in 2022 he breezes past 2022 nadal, and it’s not even close.

 

[mike danny]

I mean, yeah, the ones who've been paying attention can all agree that current Nadal is not even close to early 2017 Fed.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Yes, the Maestro takes it. But Nadal has also been impressive, we don't need to compare everything lol. Winning the AO after 13 years was huge. Fed's run was more difficult for sure though.

 

[TheNachoMan]

Peak Donskoy >>> Fritz

 

[Nadal - GOAT]

Season openers 20-1 each

don’t think it’s even up for debate which season is more impressive.
Federer beat nadal on route to 3 of his titles (Aus, Indian wells, miami) strength of competition was much higher, 1 GS and 2 masters compared to a GS some 250 glorified warm up and a 500. Put on top of that Nadal is vulturing due to Djokovic being thrown out of top competitions left right and centre (Let them play europe clay swing please tennis gods)

Put 17 era Federer in 2022 he breezes past 2022 nadal, and it’s not even close.

Yes Fed 17 is better than Nadal 22 at HC.
But then Nadal's favorite tournaments are at clay. Whether Nadal can dominate clay season will decide whose season is better.

 

[weakera]

Even Federer 2022 might be > Nadal 2022. Federer moved up 4 spots in the rankings since February which is more than Nadal.

 

[Gt86]

Season openers 20-1 each

don’t think it’s even up for debate which season is more impressive.
Federer beat nadal on route to 3 of his titles (Aus, Indian wells, miami) strength of competition was much higher, 1 GS and 2 masters compared to a GS some 250 glorified warm up and a 500. Put on top of that Nadal is vulturing due to Djokovic being thrown out of top competitions left right and centre (Let them play europe clay swing please tennis gods)

Put 17 era Federer in 2022 he breezes past 2022 nadal, and it’s not even close.

Is the season over?

 

[MaluTapiMau]

We should just sit back, and enjoy this wonderful human achievement instead of comparing again. Each of them has its own unique aspects.

 

[ForumMember]

This is just the bonus dude, Nadal's season is yet to start.

 

[NatF]

Nadal was better in 2017 as well but it is what it is.

 

[MadariKatu]

Well, Fed actually beat Nadal several times in 2017, and 2017 Nadal>>>2022 Nadal. How is this even a dicussion? Except for Acapulco, Rafa has been just surviving, and was close to pulling that off again in the final, but comparing him to 2017 Federer? Even 2019 Fed was better.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Even Federer 2022 might be > Nadal 2022. Federer moved up 4 spots in the rankings since February which is more than Nadal.

 

[Linelicker]

Federer 2017 was on a higher level. Nadal was better in 2017, as well. Nadal 2022 has been up and down in level from match to match.

 

[ArcspacE]

Federer 2017 was on a higher level. Nadal was better in 2017, as well. Nadal 2022 has been up and down in level from match to match.

Agreed

Nadal has only faced mugs in 2022 and a mental midget Med in the final

 

[Old Gregg]

Yes Fed 17 is better than Nadal 22 at HC.
But then Nadal's favorite tournaments are at clay. Whether Nadal can dominate clay season will decide whose season is better.

Fed won a lil' thing called Wimbledon as well that year.

Without dropping a set mind you.

 

[The_Order]

Season is only a couple of months old.

Let's revisit at the end.

 

[ArcspacE]

Season is only a couple of months old.

Let's revisit at the end.

No

 

[weakera]

This is just the bonus dude, Nadal's season is yet to start.

^This post has amazing energy

 

[Linelicker]

Season is only a couple of months old.

Let's revisit at the end.

No

Haha, did you get up on the wrong foot?

 

[ArcspacE]

Even Federer 2022 might be > Nadal 2022. Federer moved up 4 spots in the rankings since February which is more than Nadal.

True greatness - deal with it, kiddo

 

[The_Order]

No

Wasn't talking to you troll...

Nadal 2022 > Dimitrov entire career. Deal with it, kiddo.

 

[ArcspacE]

Wasn't talking to you troll...

Nadal 2022 > Dimitrov entire career. Deal with it, kiddo.

Cry some more

Your boy got doneski yesterday

 

[Russeljones]

Season openers 20-1 each

don’t think it’s even up for debate which season is more impressive.
Federer beat nadal on route to 3 of his titles (Aus, Indian wells, miami) strength of competition was much higher, 1 GS and 2 masters compared to a GS some 250 glorified warm up and a 500. Put on top of that Nadal is vulturing due to Djokovic being thrown out of top competitions left right and centre (Let them play europe clay swing please tennis gods)

Put 17 era Federer in 2022 he breezes past 2022 nadal, and it’s not even close.

What argument are you trying to settle? Has someone (I haven't ignored) here put forward the notion that Nadal's '22 start is better than Federer's '17?

 

[The_Order]

Cry some more

Your boy got doneski yesterday

Hahaha don't care... 21 majors, AO22 Champion. Nothing for me to cry about, how about you?

 

[Nadal - GOAT]

Fed won a lil' thing called Wimbledon as well that year.

Without dropping a set mind you.

Haha.. of course. And Nadal will need to win the FO and one of the USO and Wimbledon to better that.
If he wins the FO he has a good chance of ending the year with 3 slams

 

[ArcspacE]

Hahaha don't care... 21 majors, AO22 Champion. Nothing for me to cry about, how about you?

Your seem rattled. You ok, hun?

 

[ArcspacE]

Haha.. of course. And Nadal will need to win the FO and one of the USO and Wimbledon to better that.
If he wins the FO he has a good chance of ending the year with 3 slams

He’s done winning for the season - Djokovic is coming back

 

[Old Gregg]

Haha.. of course. And Nadal will need to win the FO and one of the USO and Wimbledon to better that.
If he wins the FO he has a good chance of ending the year with 3 slams

Why does winning RG give him a good chance of finishing with 3 slams?

 

[The_Order]

Your seem rattled. You ok, hun?

Rattled by what? The fact that Nadal has achieved more in 2 months this year at 35.5 yrs old than Grigor in his entire career

 

[Nadal - GOAT]

Why does winning RG give him a good chance of finishing with 3 slams?

I mean winning both wimb and USO is an almost impossible task for him. If he wins the RG, then he has decent chance of winning one of the other 2 and finishing the year at 3.
Ofcourse he will not be the favorite in either, but then he was far from the favorite in AO.

 

[The_Order]

He’s done winning for the season - Djokovic is coming back

Scary stuff...

We should all run in fear of the skinny Serbian that drinks the toxic water which has been purified by his positive energy and rubs bread on his stomach while he hums inside a couple of dirt piles that his government is trying desperately to turn into a tourist attraction by falsely labelling them as man made pyramids that bestow magical energy to those who believe in them...

 

[Old Gregg]

I mean winning both wimb and USO is an almost impossible task for him. If he wins the RG, then he has decent chance of winning one of the other 2 and finishing the year at 3.
Ofcourse he will not be the favorite in either, but then he was far from the favorite in AO.

Can I have what you are smoking?

You still haven't explained why winning RG makes him a decent chance of winning Wimbledon (lol) or USO?

What does it have to do with anything?

 

[wangs78]

Agreed and it’s not surprising. Fed has always won by thoroughly outclassing his opponents. While Nadal often wins by persevering against his opponents. This fundamental difference is what makes them both so interesting to watch.

Season openers 20-1 each

don’t think it’s even up for debate which season is more impressive.
Federer beat nadal on route to 3 of his titles (Aus, Indian wells, miami) strength of competition was much higher, 1 GS and 2 masters compared to a GS some 250 glorified warm up and a 500. Put on top of that Nadal is vulturing due to Djokovic being thrown out of top competitions left right and centre (Let them play europe clay swing please tennis gods)

Put 17 era Federer in 2022 he breezes past 2022 nadal, and it’s not even close.

 

[Nadal - GOAT]

Can I have what you are smoking?

You still haven't explained why winning RG makes him a decent chance of winning Wimbledon (lol) or USO?

What does it have to do with anything?

Well it will give him confidence, ranking points, possibly higher seeding.
He is already in good form at HC. So these added points should give him a decent chance.

 

[NeutralFan]

He’s done winning for the season - Djokovic is coming back

Okay, sell your house and everything and bet against Nadal winning another slam this year and share us the screen shot. Let's see you can only troll on a random site or you can put money where your mouth is.

 

[Lorenn]

I mean, yeah, the ones who've been paying attention can all agree that current Nadal is not even close to early 2017 Fed.

To be fair, if the season started with Clay...the start of the season favors Federer. The other issue was Federer spaced the matches out better.

due to Djokovic being thrown out of top competitions left right and centre (Let them play europe clay swing please tennis gods)

Novak made his choice not to play.

 

[mike danny]

To be fair, if the season started with Clay...the start of the season favors Federer. The other issue was Federer spaced the matches out better.



Novak made his choice not to play.

If you want to be really fair, Fed's best part of the season is generally the grass court season, as short as it is.

 

[Nadal - GOAT]

If you want to be really fair, Fed's best part of the season is generally the grass court season, as short as it is.

True.. but the problem with grass season is that there is only Wimbledon to judge and no masters.
Though Fed 17 was amazing at Wimbledon.

 

[ArcspacE]

Scary stuff...

We should all run in fear of the skinny Serbian that drinks the toxic water which has been purified by his positive energy and rubs bread on his stomach while he hums inside a couple of dirt piles that his government is trying desperately to turn into a tourist attraction by falsely labelling them as man made pyramids that bestow magical energy to those who believe in them...

It’s time for your to log off, kid

 

[The Blond Blur]

2017 Ol’ Rog played at a higher level than 2022 RAFA has so far, but he also skipped the entire CC season. It’s too early to say that 2017 Ol’ Rog had the better year.

We also have to keep in mind that RAFA broke through at 18-19 while Ol’ Rog broke through at 21-22. RAFA has even moar miles in his body at a similar stage in their careers.

 

[The_Order]

It’s time for your to log off, kid

No

 

[Old Gregg]

It’s time for your to log off, kid

I thought that was quite well written.

 

[Old Gregg]

True.. but the problem with grass season is that there is only Wimbledon to judge and no masters.
Though Fed 17 was amazing at Wimbledon.

Sunshine dbl not good enough for ya?

Hardest back to back Masters to win.

 

[Nadal - GOAT]

Sunshine dbl not good enough for ya?

Hardest back to back Masters to win.

This conversation is about the grass season.
Sunshine double sure is a great achievement, no doubt. But what's your point here?

 

[ArcspacE]

I thought that was quite well written.

The Skinny Serbian is the statistically the greatest tennis player alive - the kid is just steaming ignorance. For shame

 

[Old Gregg]

This conversation is about the grass season.
Sunshine double sure is a great achievement, no doubt. But what's your point here?

Well no it's about who had the better season.

So far Rog is winning by a fair length me thinks.

Rafa has also done this without Djok or Fed playing. That's another black mark imo.

 

[mike danny]

Even Federer 2022 might be > Nadal 2022. Federer moved up 4 spots in the rankings since February which is more than Nadal.

 

[Nadal - GOAT]

Well no it's about who had the better season.

So far Rog is winning by a fair length me thinks.

Rafa has also done this without Djok or Fed playing. That's another black mark imo.

I agree. If you see my earlier posts, I agreed that Fed 17 was a better hard court season than Nadal 22.
For Nadal to have a better year than fed 17 he needs to end with 3 slams.

 

[Aabye5]

Federer wins this contest...Rafa still wins the Slam race

 

[Lorenn]

If you want to be really fair, Fed's best part of the season is generally the grass court season, as short as it is.

To be fair if it started with Grass people would expect more of Federer. Still grass specialist tend to do slightly better on hard courts. Start of the year is start of the year. Fed had a better start in 2017. I think Nadal pushed himself a little too hard, but it was close. He almost made his ideal goal. Pretty good start of the season regardless. It would be interesting to see how things would've gone without the draw issues.