Federer: "A 36-year old should not be a favourite of a tournament"

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It's OK to take the pressure off. Nadal does it at RG all the time.

But, this player is widely known at the Greatest of all time, and that is for a reason. He simply is not looked at like other players, even other ATG. It is not like Federer cannot handle being the fav at this age, just a couple of months ago he absolutely savaged the entire draw at Wimbledon in a way we have never seen from him.
 

The Fedfather

Hall of Fame
He's right. Yes, Federer is not just any 36-year-old, but it's not healthy for tennis to have the tour where the best player is at the age of retirement. We are lucky that Roger is one of a kind sportsman and he's still going strong at such a late age, but nothing lasts forever. At some point the old guys, no matter how great, won't be able to carry the sport on their shoulders and if younger players don't step up tennis could suffer a massive drop in popularity.
 

MeatTornado

Legend
He says Rafa since he's #1 or Novak since he has 6 titles should be the favorite.

But guess what? 30 year olds shouldn't be the favorites either. But that's the world we live in now.
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
He's right. Yes, Federer is not just any 36-year-old, but it's not healthy for tennis to have the tour where the best player is at the age of retirement. We are lucky that Roger is one of a kind sportsman and he's still going strong at such a late age, but nothing lasts forever. At some point the old guys, no matter how great, won't be able to carry the sport on their shoulders and if younger players don't step up tennis could suffer a massive drop in popularity.
Oh please, There is no set retirement age in any sport. Let’s face it some thought Federer was done for and younger players would get cheap wins against Federer simply due to age. If Federer really concerned about the popularity of the sport due younger players not winning bigger titles, you would have retired. Of course nothing lasts forever, but in the meantime, stop making great players with actual skills feel guilty for winning. When Federer was out in 2016, did younger players start winning, NOPE.
 

fedtennisphan

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He's right. Yes, Federer is not just any 36-year-old, but it's not healthy for tennis to have the tour where the best player is at the age of retirement. We are lucky that Roger is one of a kind sportsman and he's still going strong at such a late age, but nothing lasts forever. At some point the old guys, no matter how great, won't be able to carry the sport on their shoulders and if younger players don't step up tennis could suffer a massive drop in popularity.
Oh please, There is no set retirement age in any sport. Let’s face it some thought Federer was done for and younger players would get cheap wins against Federer simply due to age. If Federer really concerned about the popularity of the sport due younger players not winning bigger titles, you would have retired. Of course nothing lasts forever, but in the meantime, stop making great players with actual skills feel guilty for winning. When Federer was out in 2016, did younger players start wi
 

WYK

Professional
He's right. Yes, Federer is not just any 36-year-old, but it's not healthy for tennis to have the tour where the best player is at the age of retirement. We are lucky that Roger is one of a kind sportsman and he's still going strong at such a late age, but nothing lasts forever. At some point the old guys, no matter how great, won't be able to carry the sport on their shoulders and if younger players don't step up tennis could suffer a massive drop in popularity.
Of the top ten, half are 26 and younger(Bjorn Borg retired at 26 and caused a huge stir). Seven are under 30. I think it's not quite as big a deal as some are making. However, I do wonder how much stem cell treatment has helped Rafa and Fed. Must be nice to have the option.
 

fedtennisphan

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He says Rafa since he's #1 or Novak since he has 6 titles should be the favorite.

But guess what? 30 year olds shouldn't be the favorites either. But that's the world we live in now.
Exactly, how come it’s okay for 30 yr olds to win? IMO Federer said what he said to appease the one’s who take issue with him winning.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
He is right though, its not normal w a that old fav.

He still is the fav.

Players nornally retire because of injuries, but because medical science evolving players can play longer and this is where we are heading.
 

The Fedfather

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Oh please, There is no set retirement age in any sport. Let’s face it some thought Federer was done for and younger players would get cheap wins against Federer simply due to age. If Federer really concerned about the popularity of the sport due younger players not winning bigger titles, you would have retired. Of course nothing lasts forever, but in the meantime, stop making great players with actual skills feel guilty for winning. When Federer was out in 2016, did younger players start winning, NOPE.
Not saying anyone should feel guilty for winning. I'm saying that the younger generations of players must improve, not that the older players should retire.
 

The Fedfather

Hall of Fame
Of the top ten, half are 26 and younger(Bjorn Borg retired at 26 and caused a huge stir). Seven are under 30. I think it's not quite as big a deal as some are making. However, I do wonder how much stem cell treatment has helped Rafa and Fed. Must be nice to have the option.
Young players have finally wrestled the top 10 away from the old guysm but they're still not getting good results consistently, especially in Slams. There are no players who look ready to replace, at least to some extent, the big stars in the near future.
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
He is right though, its not normal w a that old fav.

He still is the fav.

Players nornally retire because of injuries, but because medical science evolving players can play longer and this is where we are heading.
Name a player that had knee surgery that is Federer’s age and won a GS along with other titles to be ranked #2. Advances in medical science might make players not have to retire but does it help them win?
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
He is right though, its not normal w a that old fav.

He still is the fav.

Players nornally retire because of injuries, but because medical science evolving players can play longer and this is where we are heading.
Name a player that had knee surgery that is Federer’s age and won a GS along with other titles to be ranked #2. Advances in medical science might make players not have to retire but does it help them win?
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Name a player that had knee surgery that is Federer’s age and won a GS along with other titles to be ranked #2. Advances in medical science might make players not have to retire but does it help them win?
They are coming ;)
Tennis will get older. It already is.Two over 30 won slams last year.

Its not only happening in tennis.
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
They are coming ;)
Tennis will get older. It already is.Two over 30 won slams last year.

Its not only happening in tennis.
Nice try, those two over 30 players already knew how to win a slam. I am talking about over 30 players who have had a possible career threatening injury that would normally make them retire but win a GS that has never won a GS before.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Nice try, those two over 30 players already knew how to win a slam. I am talking about over 30 players who have had a possible career threatening injury that would normally make them retire but win a GS that has never won a GS before.
Nadal and Novak, wawrinka and Andy. All having injuries and could maybe win slams in years to come. Lets see.
Lets agree to disagree ;)
 

thrust

Hall of Fame
Name a player that had knee surgery that is Federer’s age and won a GS along with other titles to be ranked #2. Advances in medical science might make players not have to retire but does it help them win?
If there were not the advances in medical science, he probably would never have played professional tennis again. Also, his operation could have made his knee stronger and the time off could have helped the rest of his body as well. Still, one had to give Roger great credit for having the determination and making the effort to get into great shape again, in order to compete. Roger is obsessed with setting records and do whatever he can to put him further ahead of Nadal in slam count, weeks at #1 etc..
 

DismalFuture

Semi-Pro
Wait, isn't he playing better than ever and is at his peak right now? Naturally he should be the favorite at any tournament that he enters. He's just taking pressure of his shoulders, good old mind games.
 
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fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
Nadal and Novak, wawrinka and Andy. All having injuries and could maybe win slams in years to come. Lets see.
Lets agree to disagree ;)
No, let’s you are full of it. None those players have had career threatening injuries that required surgery except Stan and Andy. Maybe is not a guarantee. Let’s face it some are hoping medical science will help their fav win but not others.
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
Nadal and Novak, wawrinka and Andy. All having injuries and could maybe win slams in years to come. Lets see.
Lets agree to disagree ;)
No, let’s say you are full of it. None those players have had career threatening injuries that required surgery except Stan and Andy. Maybe is not a guarantee. Let’s face it some are hoping medical science will help their fav
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
If there were not the advances in medical science, he probably would never have played professional tennis again. Also, his operation could have made his knee stronger and the time off could have helped the rest of his body as well. Still, one had to give Roger great credit for having the determination and making the effort to get into great shape again, in order to compete. Roger is obsessed with setting records and do whatever he can to put him further ahead of Nadal in slam count, weeks at #1 etc..
Projecting much?
Fixed: “I was hoping that knee surgery would end Federer’s career”
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
If there were not the advances in medical science, he probably would never have played professional tennis again. Also, his operation could have made his knee stronger and the time off could have helped the rest of his body as well. Still, one had to give Roger great credit for having the determination and making the effort to get into great shape again, in order to compete. Roger is obsessed with setting records and do whatever he can to put him further ahead of Nadal in slam count, weeks at #1 etc..
Projecting much? Fixed
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
No, let’s say you are full of it. None those players have had career threatening injuries that required surgery except Stan and Andy. Maybe is not a guarantee. Let’s face it some are hoping medical science will help their fav
New treatments and medical science got Rafa back to have an amazing 2013.
It is happening.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Fed's right. A 36 year old player should not be the favourite for anything!:eek:

However, the solution is entirely in his hands. Stop getting better with age or this situation is never going to change!! ;)
 

jmc3367

Rookie
I don't get all this 30 is to old stuff. Athletes across all sports are doing well as older players. Nutrition is a big part of it as well as the advances in training and recovery. body builders and weight lifters are in there prime in the 30's. Muscles are more mature and respond to training. I would think other sports are the same way. Recovery methods are head and shoulders better now than they once were. I think Roger could play until 40 if he wants to and play at a top 20 level. I also think there is going to be a movement toward players playing a lot less. I could see Serena, Venus, Roger and maybe a few others playing half the events they play now. I have been a firm believer that they play way to many events and a reducing the events played will keep players around a lot longer.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Shows how poor the nextgen are. If we had about-to-peak Sampras, Agassi, Courier, Edberg,Nadal, Djokovic type of players around now Federer would not be favourite.
Midgen too, Raonic, Dimitrov and Nishikori aren't exactly setting the world on fire either. I won't even go into Thiem representing the young guard on clay because it's just too hilarious.
 

Zetty

Professional
Tennis is in crisis, this year the youngest GRAND SLAM winners will turn 30.

This is not normal.
Yes, it's almost like there's some substance that's enabling these grandpas to continue dominating the sport somehow....ah well we'll never know.
 

thrust

Hall of Fame
Projecting much?
Fixed: “I was hoping that knee surgery would end Federer’s career”
NONSENSE! Today's surgery is far superior to what it was 10 or more years ago, which helps ALL of today's players, which is a great thing. To imply that I was hoping his surgery would end Roger's career, assuming that is what you are saying, is untrue.
 

Jaitock1991

Hall of Fame
To say it is coming you need proof.

One point does not predict a pattern.

Let us wait for Rafa to win a slam post 34.
But how do you expect her or anyone else to make "proof" for the future? She says it because it makes sense to her and many others to think that this is the way things are going(based on the how things have been developing over the last couple of decades).
 

Jaitock1991

Hall of Fame
To say it is coming you need proof.

One point does not predict a pattern.

Let us wait for Rafa to win a slam post 34.
But how do you expect her or anyone else to make "proof" for the future? She says it because it makes sense to her and many others to think that this is the way things are going(based on the how things have been developing over the last couple of decades).
 

Pagoo

G.O.A.T.
Midgen too, Raonic, Dimitrov and Nishikori aren't exactly setting the world on fire either. I won't even go into Thiem representing the young guard on clay because it's just too hilarious.
The mid-gen/lost-gen are the ones who really dropped the ball. Sadly, seems their best days are over too.
 

sarmpas

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Midgen too, Raonic, Dimitrov and Nishikori aren't exactly setting the world on fire either. I won't even go into Thiem representing the young guard on clay because it's just too hilarious.
Raonic - He's only an inch or two taller, if that, than players like Stich, Goran and Krajicek but moves far far worse plus he's injured too much. It doesn't even look like he hits his serve with his arm fully extended which is a basic beginners mistake. Can't help thinking that contributes to his arm problems if that's the case.

Dimitrov - Considering who his girlfriend is I don't think tennis is his number 1 priority.

Nishikori - Reputation built mostly on that 'famous' slam win over Djokovic. What the fans fail to acknowledge is would Nishi have won if Djokovic was at least near his best. Since that win they've played 7 more times(WO not included) and Novak's won them all, 21 sets won with 3 sets lost.
 

sunny_cali

Semi-Pro
I am unable to decide whether O_ldere_r is being Humblerer or Arr_ogant_erer here. Knowing his past dubious record it's probably him indirectly trying to say that he is the greatest 36 year old in the history of sport (in addition to of course being the greatest 22-30 year old as well) ;):(:confused::cool::p

Edit:- Anyone else find it hilarious that H_umblerer is not censored but A_r_roganterer is :)
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
NONSENSE! Today's surgery is far superior to what it was 10 or more years ago, which helps ALL of today's players, which is a great thing. To imply that I was hoping his surgery would end Roger's career, assuming that is what you are saying, is untrue.
Haters are always concerned about records hence they are always concerned that Federer is playing. That’s what I’m implying.
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
NONSENSE! Today's surgery is far superior to what it was 10 or more years ago, which helps ALL of today's players, which is a great thing. To imply that I was hoping his surgery would end Roger's career, assuming that is what you are saying, is untrue.
Haters are always concerned about records hence they are always concerned that Federer is playing. That’s what I’m im
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Raonic - He's only an inch or two taller, if that, than players like Stich, Goran and Krajicek but moves far far worse plus he's injured too much. It doesn't even look like he hits his serve with his arm fully extended which is a basic beginners mistake. Can't help thinking that contributes to his arm problems if that's the case.

Dimitrov - Considering who his girlfriend is I don't think tennis is his number 1 priority.

Nishikori - Reputation built mostly on that 'famous' slam win over Djokovic. What the fans fail to acknowledge is would Nishi have won if Djokovic was at least near his best. Since that win they've played 7 more times(WO not included) and Novak's won them all, 21 sets won with 3 sets lost.
This one here is all Djokovic's fault though. Everybody knows that Novak near his best beats Nishikori 10 times out of 10, but Nishikori came into that USO 2014 SF off the back of very long matches with Raonic and Wawrinka. Nobody gave Nishikori a chance and rightfully so. Not only is/was the matchup terrible for him, but he had logged much more time on court. Of course his legs didn't give way until the final which was unfortunate for Novak, but still he had no business losing it, and clearly it's his own fault that he played like hot garbage.
 
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