Federer and Nadal and Comparison for GOAT Argument

[McEnroeisanartist]

Since the 2005 French Open,

There have been 25 Grand Slams.
Federer has won 12 Grand Slams, Nadal has won 10.
Federer has reached 18 finals, Nadal has reached 12.
Federer has reached 23 semifinals, Nadal has reached 15.

Most Amazingly, Federer either won or lost to the eventual champion in 22 Grand Slams. In addition, Federer won, lost to the eventual champion or finalist in all 25 Grand Slams.

Nadal either won or lost to the eventual champion in 13 Grand Slams. In addition, Nadal won, lost to the eventual champion or finalist in 18 Grand Slams.

In sum, Nadal has had more "bad" losses than Federer in Grand Slams over the years.

 

[sonicare]

Since the 2005 French Open,

There have been 25 Grand Slams.
Federer has won 12 Grand Slams, Nadal has won 10.
Federer has reached 18 finals, Nadal has reached 12.
Federer has reached 23 semifinals, Nadal has reached 15.

Most Amazingly, Federer either won or lost to the eventual champion in 22 Grand Slams. In addition, Federer won, lost to the eventual champion or finalist in all 25 Grand Slams.

Nadal either won or lost to the eventual champion in 13 Grand Slams. In addition, Nadal won, lost to the eventual champion or finalist in 18 Grand Slams.

In sum, Nadal has had more "bad" losses than Federer in Grand Slams over the years.

Yeah....I mean, he has lost to bloody ferrer in slams twice... FERRER, hs pigeon..whats all that about?

 

[Bud]

Since the 2005 French Open,

There have been 25 Grand Slams.
Federer has won 12 Grand Slams, Nadal has won 10.
Federer has reached 18 finals, Nadal has reached 12.
Federer has reached 23 semifinals, Nadal has reached 15.

Most Amazingly, Federer either won or lost to the eventual champion in 22 Grand Slams. In addition, Federer won, lost to the eventual champion or finalist in all 25 Grand Slams.

Nadal either won or lost to the eventual champion in 13 Grand Slams. In addition, Nadal won, lost to the eventual champion or finalist in 18 Grand Slams.

In sum, Nadal has had more "bad" losses than Federer in Grand Slams over the years.

That's hardly a comprehensive analysis for the GOAT argument.

BTW, there is no GOAT... only each player's accomplishments during the era in which they play(ed).

 

[sunnyIce]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federer%E2%80%93Nadal_rivalry

chk out the career evolution on this pg. if you can find a way to copy and paste that will be great.

 

[JustBob]

Here's a comprehensive analysis for the GOAT argument:

16 > 10

(And anyone who still uses that silly, absurd, idiotic H2H "argument" should be repeatedly beaten over the head with a tennis racket, wrapped in a tennis net and dropped in the ocean with a hardened red clay block attached to his ankle.)

 

[powerangle]

Since the 2005 French Open,

There have been 25 Grand Slams.
Federer has won 12 Grand Slams, Nadal has won 10.
Federer has reached 18 finals, Nadal has reached 12.
Federer has reached 23 semifinals, Nadal has reached 15.

Most Amazingly, Federer either won or lost to the eventual champion in 22 Grand Slams. In addition, Federer won, lost to the eventual champion or finalist in all 25 Grand Slams.

Nadal either won or lost to the eventual champion in 13 Grand Slams. In addition, Nadal won, lost to the eventual champion or finalist in 18 Grand Slams.

In sum, Nadal has had more "bad" losses than Federer in Grand Slams over the years.

The problem with this "argument" is that Nadal was still developing at the time of his 2005 FO win. He was great on clay already, but still not nearly as developed on grass or hard courts. Your stats make Nadal look worse since Nadal hadn't fully come into his own yet.

 

[Tennis_Monk]

Roger Federer is the GOAT. Nadal isnt yet in the picture unless we are strictly talking about Clay Court Greatness. In such scenario, Nadal is the clay court GOAT (yes..better than Bjorn Borg) and Roger isnt in contention.

 

[sunnyIce]

delete post

 

[Tennis_Monk]

Rog got to his 10th slam in his 9th year on tour. And had 45 titles to that point.

Rafa got to his 10th slam in his 9th year on tour. And has 46 titles to this point.

Case closed.

Unlike a Grandslam tournament where a champion is decided in two weeks, GOAT is decided once the person ends their career Or is already ahead of all current and retired players in terms of achievements.

Rafa doesnt have 16 slams yet (He may eventually get there but hasnt yet).
So come back when Rafa has more slams than Roger.

Until then 16 >10.

 

[danb]

Why does it have to be simple? Why choose one over the other?
Roger - 16 GS - nobody will touch that any time soon.
Rafa - delivered 2 beatings on Fed's arse for each one he's taken from Roger; so quite a lopsided H2H
It is fascinating - enjoy their matches...
Would you rather have one guy who both wins most GS and has a perfect H2H against rivals? That would be BORING.