Must be the eye test, because Federer didn't beat the other 2 when it counted the most.
"Federer and Nadal have transcended tennis more than Djokovic" — Toni Nadal
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You might want to read the article again LOL
Federer played tennis that fooled us into believing into the greatness of man, the genius, the renaissance, the ideal of what man can achieve artistically. He is modern day Beethoven in athletic form.
Nadal then matched him and fooled us into believing in the strength of man, the brawn, the fighting spirit, the willingness to go all-out. Those dueling capacities, the genius and the worker, is a very compelling rivalry.
Then Djokovic when he came along cut a different path. He immediately showed through his tennis that the one defining characteristic of humans is not their genius or strength, but their mortality, their frailty, their weakness. That everyone, everyone is human, everyone has flaws.
Good take from Toni.
Nadal then matched him and fooled us into believing in the strength of man, the brawn, the fighting spirit, the willingness to go all-out. Those dueling capacities, the genius and the worker, is a very compelling rivalry.
Then Djokovic when he came along cut a different path. He immediately showed through his tennis that the one defining characteristic of humans is not their genius or strength, but their mortality, their frailty, their weakness. That everyone, everyone is human, everyone has flaws.
Good take from Toni.
joekapa
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Unfortunatley.....for the Nadal fans, Djokovic has the stats to show who was best.
Unfortunately for Federer fans, Djokovic has the most clutch match wins to show who is the best.
Now Uncle Toni should fight it out with Federer to see who takes second best.
I think Federer was, personally. His nephew ended up second wheel in two different eras.....which makes him third wheel overall.....
Unfortunately for Federer fans, Djokovic has the most clutch match wins to show who is the best.
Now Uncle Toni should fight it out with Federer to see who takes second best.
I think Federer was, personally. His nephew ended up second wheel in two different eras.....which makes him third wheel overall.....
*Fewer
joekapa
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WTF ?
Djokovic showed that behind all the pazaz.....you need cahoonas to play this game.........
NatF
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No lies detected.
WeekendTennisHack
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Why aren't the Octo twins kissing Toni's booty now?
Biotic
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GoatNo1
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yes it must be, quite difficult to hit the ball with the frame with his BH and shoot it far into the stands.
or losing stylish 25 matches where you had MPs. no one else comes close. nole had, for example, only shameful 3.
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Nah, Fed is the MJ. It's why his endorsement money is higher than anyone else's and is the most popular
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Joke has also received the most bagels. I don't think Jordan ever got dominated so badly and so often
ROFLMAO what are you insinuating
Biotic
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Ok, ok. Adjusted for endorsement money, Federer is Kevin Durant of tennis.
Nah man. Not talking about off court achievements.
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Don't be jealous that Fed is the most talented player of all time, making him the MJ of tennis. Don't be mad broOk, ok. Adjusted for endorsement money, Federer is Kevin Durant of tennis.
Nah man. Not talking about off court achievements.
nolefam_2024
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This guy is ruining FAA career or vice versa. But sounds a lot of sour grapes.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
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Uncle Toni is obsessed!
GoatNo1
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another thing is that jordan had his teammates that he also depended on while tennis is an individual sport and there it is easy to compare who achieved more or less. especially when they played most of their respective careers together. fed played the most matches vs nole and then vs rafa.
and that's precisely why nobody puts a lot of emphasis on DC or double titles when talking about the singles tennis GOAT. otherwise maybe rafa would have reached the top thanks to the fact that there have always been many more talented Spaniards than Serbs or Swiss at the top. which is natural with the thought of the country's population and tennis tradition.
maybe li na attracted more kids to play tennis than fed, how do we know it's not like that. and while titles in men's and women's competition should not be compared, to attract children to games can.
further, if we take it as fact (and not an opinion) that fed is the most popular player of all time, that just might make him an MPOAT just what it is. never to the GOAT unless he states that underlines it. otherwise Sharapova or Kournikova would have been GOAT candidates among women and maybe even men.
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Biotic
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I admit it, Federer is clearly Top 10 Open era, just outside of Top 5.
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Nice trolling. You and Holmes should get a room
NoleFam
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So according to Toni, the layout of the tour is unfair because 3/4 Slams are "fast" and not favorable to Nadal's game. Also from Toni, Nadal was injured too much and would have won more Slams if not for that. Well maybe you should not have specialized his game for clay, the most grueling surface, with a style that probably caused his injuries. He is trying to have his cake and eat it too. As far as who transcended the sport more, let's see in 10 years. Hard to say when 2 of them are still active players. Regardless, this sounds like a cope from him.
nolefam_2024
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Yes it's his fault and he wants to blame others. Take some personal responsibility.
Biotic
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Don't be mad Federer is Top 10. He worked hard for it.
NoleFam
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Yea he's trying to blame the tour layout as the reason. This was the tour layout when Nadal was a toddler; then again, they don't have carpet anymore so it should have helped Nadal all things considered. It's up to them to adapt.
This should be the TTW masthead
Djokodal Fan
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Toni should actually do his job as a coach and make Felix get to 2nd week of slams than making junk articles like these!
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Don't blame me for the (correct) opinion of Toni
joekapa
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If you explain to us why Federer played at a higher level, then I will agree with you. Show us a stat of some sort. Quantify it.......
ffw2
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That's how he earned your undying devotion!
ADuck
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That's deep. So Djokovic is fighting for all of humankind after all.
TheNachoMan
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Earth’s mightiest warrior is more than a nickname.
Well, he’s really fighting against humankind.
TheNachoMan
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He is fighting against your bets.
tennis24x7
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C'mon he flat out tells Felix he is not going to tell him how to win over Nadal in the netflix documentary. I feel Felix was given a bad deal. Even Nadal tells that his uncle will not want Felix to win, that is some serious bull especially when you are coaching someone. But maybe the terms of the deal?
Omega_7000
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No. Djokovic's father is pure evil. A truly pathetic, insecure and angry person.
jm1980
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LOL, how so? He is just a man who effusively supports his son. Sometimes he makes over the top statements, but how "evil" can that really be?
ffw2
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What's the trap tho?
Like no escape? I don't even like to think about the sorts of horrors that nuncle's dreamed up.
octobrina10
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Rafa promoted Spanish ham already 8 years ago. I wonder why Rafa bashers write so much garbage on TTW.
joekapa
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In an interview with what other players don't eat, everybody said that Rafa does not eat cured meats.Rafa promoted Spanish ham already 8 years ago. I wonder why Rafa bashers write so much garbage on TTW.
octobrina10
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Toni Nadal didn't write this article (OP). He was interviewed by Sebastián Fest, the managing editor of 'Clay', a tennis magazine.
Sebastián Fest, autor en CLAY
www.claytenis.com
Here is the original article:
"Federer and Nadal have been more transcendental in tennis than Djokovic" - interview with Toni Nadal
"Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal have been more important in tennis than Novak Djokovic," says Toni Nadal in an interview with CLAY.
www.claytenis.com
ffw2
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I threw up a bit. Only slightly tho.Rafa promoted Spanish ham already 8 years ago. I wonder why Rafa bashers write so much garbage on TTW.
Is it true that he won't even touch this stuff?
Yep in decades to come after we have long gone or memory has faded it is the record books that will tell the story in black and whiteNadal and Federer might have transcended tennis more than Djokovic did, but sadly (as a Nadal fan) Djokovic has transcended the greatness and success of Nadal and Federer
ADuck
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That makes more sense actually.
For a brief moment I was thinking along the lines of Federer and Nadal are the aliens/robots who possess differing supernatural tennis abilities that nobody can seem to defeat, and Djokovic the most human of the three, came along and constructed a game that doesn't have any supernatural tennis abilities that stand out as much as those aliens, but was built on the foundation of all humankind's knowledge on the game of tennis, to target Fedal's weaknesses. The last hope for all of humanity.
But actually the version where Federer and Nadal are the humans, and Djokovic is the robot makes more sense. Federer and Nadal being the humans who have opposing styles of play that highlight the absolute peak of humanity's tennis abilities, but as you said, all humans have weaknesses. Djokovic, Ultron, the AI who was meant to save humanity but became corrupted and now seeks to destroy it, came along and decided to build a tennis game on the foundation of complex machine learning models and algorithms, which resulted in a soul-sucking tennis game but without any human flaws.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
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Uncle Toni says, “Olympic gold is massive bud!” Is that you beckerserve?
octobrina10
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It's no surprise that the garabage from the Rafa basher made you throw up.
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