Federer and Records at 2009 U.S. Open

[McEnroeisanartist]

After Federer won Wimbledon, thought I wouldn't be excited for him to play anymore because he had a record 15th Grand Slam Championship. Then, I thought about all the records on the line at the U.S. Open. Consider:

If he reaches the semifinals, he will have reached 22 consecutive Grand Slam semifinals which is more than the next three best records (10, 6, 5). If he reaches the final, he will become the first player ever to play in all four grand slam finals in the same year in three different years. If he reaches the final, he will further extend his streak of seven consecutive grand slam finals (2nd Best Ever in the Open Era after his record 10). If he wins, he will have won three grand slams in four different years (no man has done this more than once since 1969). If he wins, he will become the first man in the open era to win the championship six consecutive years at the same grand slam. If he wins, he will become the first man since 1969 to win the French Open, Wimbledon, and the U.S. Open in the same year. If he wins, he will become the first man to ever win two grand slams at least six times. Most heartbreaking, if he wins, then in three different years, Nadal will have cost him a GRAND SLAM.

 

[JennyS]

When you put it that way, GO ROGER!

 

[RCizzle65]

Most heartbreaking, if he wins, then in three different years, Nadal will have cost him a GRAND SLAM.

Ouch when you think about that....but if he wins the US and AO, it'll be almost the same thing, his sort of own "Serena Slam"

 

[Talker]

Ouch when you think about that....but if he wins the US and AO, it'll be almost the same thing, his sort of own "Serena Slam"

Right, there's nothing magical about holding all 4 GS's starting at the beginning of the year.

 

[Cup8489]

Ouch when you think about that....but if he wins the US and AO, it'll be almost the same thing, his sort of own "Serena Slam"

the Roger Slam.

but yeah. all this talk about him not being the GOAT bc of the calendar slams..no one seems to realize that it took Nadal's best stuff to keep him from it. Federer was competitive in those years against nadal on clay, and definitely this year in Australia.

 

[dh003i]

yea, hopefully Federer wins the USO, so he has a chance at 4 consecutive GS at the AO.

There isn't too much special about the calendar year GS vs. a non-calendar year one, since tennis doesn't really have an off-season. Tennis isn't like American Football. I mean, if Federer wins the USO, AO, and FO, that would be 5 in a row; clearly better than a calendar year GS. And any 4 in a row is just as good as a CYGS imo.

 

[lessthanjake]

I think these are the 3 biggest:

1. If he wins the US Open, he will have a chance for a non-calendar grand slam at the Australian Open
2. If he wins the US Open, he will be the only player in the open era to win any grand slam 6 years in a row.
3. In order to overcome Sampras' record for number of total weeks at #1, Federer needs to keep his #1 spot until the start of Wimbledon next year. A US Open win would almost assure that because he would guarantee having 2 slam wins (Wimbledon and US Open) as well as 1 Masters win (Cinncinati) on his record for that entire time.

 

[BigServer1]

I think these are the 3 biggest:

1. If he wins the US Open, he will have a chance for a non-calendar grand slam at the Australian Open
2. If he wins the US Open, he will be the only player in the open era to win any grand slam 6 years in a row.
3. In order to overcome Sampras' record for number of total weeks at #1, Federer needs to keep his #1 spot until the start of Wimbledon next year. A US Open win would almost assure that because he would guarantee having 2 slam wins (Wimbledon and US Open) as well as 1 Masters win (Cinncinati) on his record for that entire time.

The funny thing about this is that Federer actually has room to pick up points until Madrid. He can improve on his showings in Paris, TMC, Doha, AO, IW, Miami, MC and Rome. It's not until Madrid/FO that he has anything of substance to defend (minus the AO final).

I think Federer has an outside shot at 300 weeks at #1 if he has a good start to the season in 2010.

 

[lessthanjake]

The funny thing about this is that Federer actually has room to pick up points until Madrid. He can improve on his showings in Paris, TMC, Doha, AO, IW, Miami, MC and Rome. It's not until Madrid/FO that he has anything of substance to defend (minus the AO final).

I think Federer has an outside shot at 300 weeks at #1 if he has a good start to the season in 2010.

More than likely, you are right. BUT, Federer does stand to possibly lose big points before he ices off the consecutive weeks at #1 spot. He can easily lose big points at the Australian Open, Madrid, and particularly the French Open (where I think we should expect him to lose big points). It is possible that a bad showing at the French Open could take the #1 spot away from Federer directly after it, leaving Federer just 2 or 3 weeks behind Sampras' record.

This is really the last significant record that Federer has not broken, so I hope he can win the US Open and improve on some lackluster results later this season and early next season. That way he will likely break the record even without a repeat of his Roland Garros win.

 

[Bloodshed]

More than likely, you are right. BUT, Federer does stand to possibly lose big points before he ices off the consecutive weeks at #1 spot. He can easily lose big points at the Australian Open, Madrid, and particularly the French Open (where I think we should expect him to lose big points). It is possible that a bad showing at the French Open could take the #1 spot away from Federer directly after it, leaving Federer just 2 or 3 weeks behind Sampras' record.

This is really the last significant record that Federer has not broken, so I hope he can win the US Open and improve on some lackluster results later this season and early next season. That way he will likely break the record even without a repeat of his Roland Garros win.

Whil this is true, I also believe Federer wants to win a 7th Wimbledon so that he ties with the greatest grass player of all time: Pete Sampras. Because to the majority of people until he gets his 7th Wimbledon, they will say that Sampras was a better grass player than Federer.

Oh and I also believe he would love to face Nadal one more time at RG and beat him to make it like he trully earned his second RG.

 

[lessthanjake]

Whil this is true, I also believe Federer wants to win a 7th Wimbledon so that he ties with the greatest grass player of all time: Pete Sampras. Because to the majority of people until he gets his 7th Wimbledon, they will say that Sampras was a better grass player than Federer.

Oh and I also believe he would love to face Nadal one more time at RG and beat him to make it like he trully earned his second RG.

You are right. I'd say that if Federer kept his #1 ranking at least until Wimbledon next year, and won his 7th Wimbledon, then he would really have nothing important to play for anymore.

A dream come true for him would be if he managed to do the following:
1. Win the US Open this year
2. Win the Australian Open, completing a non-calendar slam
3. Beat Nadal at some point in RG, even if it were in a semifinal due to Nadal (or Federer) being ranked outside of the top 2.
4. Win Wimbledon at some point again, to tie Sampras, and have a better overall Wimbledon record by virtue of being runner up once as well.

 

[joeri888]

If he wins.. He'll think back about the AO and realize he didn't cry enough. It was worth way way more tears.

 

[l_gonzalez]

You are right. I'd say that if Federer kept his #1 ranking at least until Wimbledon next year, and won his 7th Wimbledon, then he would really have nothing important to play for anymore.

A dream come true for him would be if he managed to do the following:
1. Win the US Open this year
2. Win the Australian Open, completing a non-calendar slam
3. Beat Nadal at some point in RG, even if it were in a semifinal due to Nadal (or Federer) being ranked outside of the top 2.
4. Win Wimbledon at some point again, to tie Sampras, and have a better overall Wimbledon record by virtue of being runner up once as well.

I know Fed tends to deliver time after time, but the guy IS human and it's not like everyone else is gonna stand there and just let him waltz to those titles.

 

[jwbarrientos]

Wow, hope RG got this one! amazing records

 

[drakulie]

I just realized not only is Fed arrogant, but extremely selfish. Why not let other players win from time to time?? Jeez. :roll:

 

[sh@de]

Here's a question for all of you. If Fed wins the USO, AO and FO again, that means he's will have won 5 grand slams in a row. Yet he still hasn't achieved the calendar slam. Would you rate the 5 slams in a row above the calendar slam? Or below it?

And how about if he won 6 in a row, i.e. USO, AO, FO and Wimby?

I just want to see how important the 'calendar' in the part of the calendar slam is to you guys.

 

[cknobman]

I just realized not only is Fed arrogant, but extremely selfish. Why not let other players win from time to time?? Jeez. :roll:

Yeah Im mean really Rog wtf??? Cant you let everyone and their dog that thinks Murray is the greatest thing since sliced break have their day in the sun??? Such an arsehole.

 

[lessthanjake]

I know Fed tends to deliver time after time, but the guy IS human and it's not like everyone else is gonna stand there and just let him waltz to those titles.

True. I think Federer will win 1 more Wimbledon in his career and 1 more US Open. That's it IMO.

 

[mandy01]

Its scary :shock:

 

[zagor]

True. I think Federer will win 1 more Wimbledon in his career and 1 more US Open. That's it IMO.

I hope he has more slam wins left in him than you think but you may very well turn out to be right.In fact it's possible Fed never wins another slam(isn't likely though).Statistically players rarely win slams after they get married and have kids,plus winning slams is always amazingly tough no matter what some keyboard experts here say and no matter how easy Fed made it look at times.

Regardless,I would like to see Fed play as long as possible(Agassi style)no matter if he wins slams or not.

 

[lessthanjake]

I hope he has more slam wins left in him than you think but you may very well turn out to be right.In fact it's possible Fed never wins another slam(isn't likely though).Statistically players rarely win slams after they get married and have kids,plus winning slams is always amazingly tough no matter what some keyboard experts here say and no matter how easy Fed made it look at times.

Regardless,I would like to see Fed play as long as possible(Agassi style)no matter if he wins slams or not.

Yeahh, I mean I see Federer taking a turn for the worst after next year and not necessarily being able to win slams, though he might get a lone slam after 2010. I think he will retire after 2012. He wants to try to win the Olympics at Wimbledon, then he will retire.

 

[Quite Please]

Here's a question for all of you. If Fed wins the USO, AO and FO again, that means he's will have won 5 grand slams in a row. Yet he still hasn't achieved the calendar slam. Would you rate the 5 slams in a row above the calendar slam? Or below it?

And how about if he won 6 in a row, i.e. USO, AO, FO and Wimby?

I just want to see how important the 'calendar' in the part of the calendar slam is to you guys.

I would with out a doubt in my mind rank five consecutive slams higher than a calender slam. The calender is a man made thing, the important thing is that you win the slams consecutively. I would only rank the calender slam a little bit higher, than four consecutive slams. For example if a player wins four in a row, but not a calender slam, and ends up with 11 slams, I would rank his acheivements higher than a player who made a calender slam, but only won 10 titles.
Even if the only difference between the two players was a Masters-title like Madrid or Cinci, I would rank him higher.

 

[Rippy]

I hope he has more slam wins left in him than you think but you may very well turn out to be right.In fact it's possible Fed never wins another slam(isn't likely though).Statistically players rarely win slams after they get married and have kids,plus winning slams is always amazingly tough no matter what some keyboard experts here say and no matter how easy Fed made it look at times.

Regardless,I would like to see Fed play as long as possible(Agassi style)no matter if he wins slams or not.

And statistically players rarely win 15 slams. I think Fed will get 2 more.

 

[flyinghippos101]

Fed has enough in the tank for atleast three more grand slams, maybe one more if he's still hungry. But you can see the hunger already disappearing in the ay he plays

 

[FlamEnemY]

The worst thing is, I feel bad for the poor chap who must conquer Fed's records to be considered better.

 

[rocket]

And statistically players rarely win 15 slams. I think Fed will get 2 more.

At least 3, if not 5.

 

[clayman2000]

For the fools saying Roger has a great chance to be no 1 for 300 weeks, meaning hed have to stay no 1 until at least this time next year, your fools.

Nadal has virtually nothing to defend from now till YE. And based on what he is saying, it seems like hes gearing up for a late season push. Then from FO - Wimby next year he has 180 pts to defend. Knowing Nadals skill on clay and grass when healthy he could get up to 4250 pts in that stretch

 

[mental midget]

I just realized not only is Fed arrogant, but extremely selfish. Why not let other players win from time to time?? Jeez. :roll:

if he doesn't stop winning majors soon, he's going to turn this into a weak era.

 

[フェデラー]

For the fools saying Roger has a great chance to be no 1 for 300 weeks, meaning hed have to stay no 1 until at least this time next year, your fools.

Nadal has virtually nothing to defend from now till YE. And based on what he is saying, it seems like hes gearing up for a late season push. Then from FO - Wimby next year he has 180 pts to defend. Knowing Nadals skill on clay and grass when healthy he could get up to 4250 pts in that stretch

But you forget Nadal dominated every single title from AO up until Madrid. Murray and Djokovic are defending quite a few titles. Federer could be where Nadal was this year and be at 15000+ points. Not only that, He wont not be playing wimbledon due to knee injury. it looks like a good year next year for him.

 

[ubermeyer]

wow. the most impressive is that he would reach 22 slam semis in a row, and that is more than the next 3 records COMBINED!!! and this also "If he wins, he will become the first man in the open era to win the championship six consecutive years at the same grand slam. If he wins, he will become the first man since 1969 to win the French Open, Wimbledon, and the U.S. Open in the same year. If he wins, he will become the first man to ever win two grand slams at least six times."

so much for the Roger is not GOAT argument, it's completely over.