Federer and Sampras Peformances at French Open

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It is worth noting that at 31, Federer has advanced further in the French Open then Sampras did at the French Open from ages 25-30.

Also worth noting that at 30, Federer won the same number of matches in one French Open (2012) than Sampras did in his last six French Open appearances.

The average ranking of Sampras' defeats in his last six French Open appearances was 72. The average ranking of Federer's defeats in his last six French Open appearances was 2.5.
 
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Nice stats, kinda wanted to know the chasm of quality b/w the two at RG.
 
Well, here they all are. The French Open records of Federer and Sampras.

Roger Federer's French Open record
1999 French Open
R128: Patrick Rafter def. Roger Federer (5-7, 6-3, 6-0, 6-2)

2000 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Wayne Arthurs (7-6, 6-3, 1-6, 6-3)
R64: Roger Federer def. Jan-Michael Gambill (7-6, 6-3, 6-3)
R32: Roger Federer def. Michel Kratochvil (7-6, 6-4, 2-6, 6-7, 8-6)
R16: Alex Corretja def. Roger Federer (7-5, 7-6, 6-2)

2001 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Stefano Galvani (6-3, 6-3, 6-3)
R64: Roger Federer def. Sargis Sargsian (4-6, 3-6, 6-2, 6-4, 9-7)
R32: Roger Federer def. David Sanchez (6-4, 6-3, 1-6, 6-3)
R16: Roger Federer def. Wayne Arthurs (3-6, 6-3, 6-4, 6-2)
QF: Alex Corretja def. Roger Federer (7-5, 6-4, 7-5)

2002 French Open
R128: Hicham Arazi def. Roger Federer (6-3, 6-2, 6-4)

2003 French Open
R128: Luis Horna def. Roger Federer (7-6, 6-2, 7-6)

2004 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Kristof Vliegen (6-1, 6-2, 6-1)
R64: Roger Federer def. Nicolas Kiefer (6-3, 6-4, 7-6)
R32: Gustavo Kuerten def. Roger Federer (6-4, 6-4, 6-4)

2005 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Dudi Sela (6-1, 6-4, 6-0)
R64: Roger Federer def. Nicolas Almagro (6-3, 7-6, 6-2)
R32: Roger Federer def. Fernando Gonzalez (7-6, 7-5, 6-2)
R16: Roger Federer def. Carlos Moya (6-1, 6-4, 6-3)
QF: Roger Federer def. Victor Hanescu (6-2, 7-6, 6-3)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-3, 4-6, 6-4, 6-3)

2006 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Diego Hartfield (7-5, 7-6, 6-2)
R64: Roger Federer def. Alejandro Falla (6-1, 6-4, 6-3)
R32: Roger Federer def. Nicolas Massu (6-1, 6-2, 6-7, 7-5)
R16: Roger Federer def. Tomas Berdych (6-3, 6-2, 6-3)
QF: Roger Federer def. Mario Ancic (6-4, 6-3, 6-4)
SF: Roger Federer def. David Nalbandian (3-6, 6-4, 5-2 ret.)
F: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (1-6, 6-1, 6-4, 7-6)

2007 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Michael Russell (6-4, 6-2, 6-4)
R64: Roger Federer def. Thierry Ascione (6-1, 6-2, 7-6)
R32: Roger Federer def. Potito Starace (6-2, 6-3, 6-0)
R16: Roger Federer def. Mikhail Youzhny (7-6, 6-4, 6-4)
QF: Roger Federer def. Tommy Robredo (7-5, 1-6, 6-1, 6-2)
SF: Roger Federer def. Nikolay Davydenko (7-5, 7-6, 7-6)
F: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-3, 4-6, 6-3, 6-4)

2008 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Sam Querrey (6-4, 6-4, 6-3)
R64: Roger Federer def. Albert Montanes (6-7, 6-1, 6-0, 6-4)
R32: Roger Federer def. Mario Ancic (6-3, 6-4, 6-2)
R16: Roger Federer def. Julien Benneteau (6-4, 7-5, 7-5)
QF: Roger Federer def. Fernando Gonzalez (2-6, 6-2, 6-3, 6-4)
SF: Roger Federer def. Gael Monfils (6-2, 5-7, 6-3, 7-5)
F: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-1, 6-3, 6-0)

2009 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Alberto Martin (6-4, 6-3, 6-2)
R64: Roger Federer def. Jose Acasuso (7-6, 5-7, 7-6, 6-2)
R32: Roger Federer def. Paul-Henri Mathieu (4-6, 6-1, 6-4, 6-4)
R16: Roger Federer def. Tommy Haas (6-7, 5-7, 6-4, 6-0, 6-2)
QF: Roger Federer def. Gael Monfils (7-6, 6-2, 6-4)
SF: Roger Federer def. Juan Martin del Potro (3-6, 7-6, 2-6, 6-1, 6-4)
F: Roger Federer def. Robin Soderling (6-1, 7-6, 6-4)

2010 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Peter Luczak (6-4, 6-1, 6-2)
R64: Roger Federer def. Alejandro Falla (7-6, 6-2, 6-4)
R32: Roger Federer def. Julian Reister (6-4, 6-0, 6-4)
R16: Roger Federer def. Stanislas Wawrinka (6-3, 7-6, 6-2)
QF: Robin Soderling def. Roger Federer (3-6, 6-3, 7-5, 6-4)

2011 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Feliciano Lopez (6-3, 6-4, 7-6)
R64: Roger Federer def. Maxime Teixeira (6-3, 6-0, 6-2)
R32: Roger Federer def. Janko Tipsarevic (6-1, 6-4, 6-3)
R16: Roger Federer def. Stanislas Wawrinka (6-3, 6-2, 7-5)
QF: Roger Federer def. Gael Monfils (6-4, 6-3, 7-6)
SF: Roger Federer def. Novak Djokovic (7-6, 6-3, 3-6, 7-6)
F: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (7-5, 7-6, 5-7, 6-1)

2012 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Tobias Kamke (6-2, 7-5, 6-3)
R64: Roger Federer def. Adrian Ungur (6-3, 6-2, 6-7, 6-3)
R32: Roger Federer def. Nicolas Mahut (6-3, 4-6, 6-2, 7-5)
R16: Roger Federer def. David Goffin (5-7, 7-5, 6-2, 6-4)
QF: Roger Federer def. Juan Martin del Potro (3-6, 6-7, 6-2, 6-0, 6-3)
SF: Novak Djokovic def. Roger Federer (6-4, 7-5, 6-3)

2013 French Open
R128: Roger Federer def. Pablo Carreno-Busta (6-2, 6-2, 6-3)
R64: Roger Federer def. Somdev Devvarman (6-2, 6-1, 6-1)
R32: Roger Federer def. Julien Benneteau (6-3, 6-4, 7-5)


Pete Sampras' French Open record
1989 French Open
R128: Pete Sampras def. Jorge Lozano (6-3, 6-2, 6-4)
R64: Michael Chang def. Pete Sampras (6-1, 6-1, 6-1)

1991 French Open
R128: Pete Sampras def. Thomas Muster (4-6, 4-6, 6-4, 6-1, 6-4)
R64: Thierry Champion def. Pete Sampras (6-3, 6-1, 6-1)

1992 French Open
R128: Pete Sampras def. Marc Rosset (7-6, 4-6, 6-4, 3-6, 6-3)
R64: Pete Sampras def. Laurent Prades (7-6, 6-4, 7-6)
R32: Pete Sampras def. Rodolphe Gilbert (6-3, 6-2, 6-3)
R16: Pete Sampras def. Carl-Uwe Steeb (6-4, 6-3, 6-2)
QF: Andre Agassi def. Pete Sampras (7-6, 6-2, 6-1)

1993 French Open
R128: Pete Sampras def. Andrei Cherkasov (6-1, 6-2, 3-6, 6-1)
R64: Pete Sampras def. Marcos Ondruska (7-5, 6-0, 6-3)
R32: Pete Sampras def. Jonas Svensson (6-4, 6-4, 6-2)
R16: Pete Sampras def. MaliVai Washington (6-3, 7-6, 6-1)
QF: Sergi Bruguera def. Pete Sampras (6-3, 4-6, 6-1, 6-4)

1994 French Open
R128: Pete Sampras def. Albert Costa (6-3, 6-4, 6-4)
R64: Pete Sampras def. Marcelo Rios (7-6, 7-6, 6-4)
R32: Pete Sampras def. Paul Haarhuis (6-1, 6-4, 6-1)
R16: Pete Sampras def. Mikael Tillstrom (6-4, 6-4, 1-6, 6-4)
QF: Jim Courier def. Pete Sampras (6-4, 5-7, 6-4, 6-4)

1995 French Open
R128: Gilbert Schaller def. Pete Sampras (7-6, 4-6, 6-7, 6-2, 6-4)

1996 French Open
R128: Pete Sampras def. Magnus Gustafsson (6-1, 7-5, 7-6)
R64: Pete Sampras def. Sergi Bruguera (6-3, 6-4, 6-7, 2-6, 6-3)
R32: Pete Sampras def. Todd Martin (3-6, 6-4, 7-5, 4-6, 6-2)
R16: Pete Sampras def. Scott Draper (6-4, 7-5, 6-2)
QF: Pete Sampras def. Jim Courier (6-7, 4-6, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4)
SF: Yevgeny Kafelnikov def. Pete Sampras (7-6, 6-0, 6-2)

1997 French Open
R128: Pete Sampras def. Fabrice Santoro (6-3, 7-5, 6-1)
R64: Pete Sampras def. Francisco Clavet (6-1, 6-2, 6-2)
R32: Magnus Norman def. Pete Sampras (6-2, 6-4, 2-6, 6-4)

1998 French Open
R128: Pete Sampras def. Todd Martin (6-4, 6-3, 6-3)
R64: Ramon Delgado def. Pete Sampras (7-6, 6-3, 6-4)

1999 French Open
R128: Pete Sampras def. Juan Antonio Marin (6-7, 6-4, 7-5, 6-7, 6-4)
R64: Andrei Medvedev def. Pete Sampras (7-5, 1-6, 6-4, 6-3)

2000 French Open
R128: Mark Philippoussis def. Pete Sampras (4-6, 7-5, 7-6, 4-6, 8-6)

2001 French Open
R128: Pete Sampras def. Cedric Kauffmann (6-3, 4-6, 6-2, 3-6, 8-6)
R64: Galo Blanco def. Pete Sampras (7-6, 6-3, 6-2)

2002 French Open
R128: Andrea Gaudenzi def. Pete Sampras (3-6, 6-4, 6-2, 7-6)
 
Mustard, thanks for posting.

In summary, Federer has won more matches at the French Open in his last five tournament appearances (after his prime) than Sampras did in his entire career (13 tournament appearances).
 
McEnroeisanartist said:
It is worth noting .... Fed... then Sampras did...

Also worth noting ..... Federer won ... than Sampras did
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monfed said:
Nice stats, kinda wanted to know the chasm of quality b/w the two at RG.
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Mustard said:
Well, here they all are. The French Open records of Federer and Sampras.

Roger Federer's French Open record

R128: Roger Federer def.


Pete Sampras' French Open record

def. Pete Sampras
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fedfan46 said:
Interesting that Sampras never even made a final. Thanks for posting that
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McEnroeisanartist said:
Mustard, thanks for posting.

In summary, Federer has won more matches at the French Open ...
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Nice list, but is anyone seriously trying to make a case for Sampras being remotely in the same league as Federer on clay? Roger's probably one of the 10 best all-time clay players, but just happens to live in the shadow of THE all-time great clay player. Pete is a solid journeyman clay player who once got into the SF of FO.
 
if not for the Super Clay Goat Nadal, Fed would have 5 Fo

Sampras is lucky to make it past the 1st round look at all the bagels and bread sticks smh
 
Masayoshi said:
Nice list, but is anyone seriously trying to make a case for Sampras being remotely in the same league as Federer on clay? Roger's probably one of the 10 best all-time clay players, but just happens to live in the shadow of THE all-time great clay player. Pete is a solid journeyman clay player who once got into the SF of FO.
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I've got news for you. If Federer had to play any of the Top-15 clay players ever, he'd be 50% or less chance to win against them. Federer is good, but the clay field he had to face during his prime (outside of Nadal) is really bad.
 
pretty interesting that Fed donked out of the french in round freakin' 1 right before taking Wimbledon.. and only got to round 3 in 2004 also when he was clearly the #1 player and already GOATING.

It just really took him some time to mature on this surface.

And while I don't think it's realistic for him to win this tournament.. given the cake draw another Final is very possible and that would be a 6th final! more than the AO, and equal to his USO run.

Pretty incredible if it happens... and odds are it will.
 
mightyrick said:
Federer is good, but the clay field he had to face during his prime (outside of Nadal) is really bad.
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Got it. That explains how someone like Nadal managed to win all those FOs and tons of clay tournaments for 8-9 years with supposedly broken knees.
Weak clay era is weak.
 
McEnroeisanartist said:
Mustard, thanks for posting.

In summary, Federer has won more matches at the French Open in his last five tournament appearances (after his prime) than Sampras did in his entire career (13 tournament appearances).
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...and the point of this thread is..?

Next, compare Federer and Borg's performances at the FO, or Federer and Nadal, or Courier, or....
 
McEnroeisanartist said:
It is worth noting that at 31, Federer has advanced further in the French Open then Sampras did at the French Open from ages 25-30.

Also worth noting that at 30, Federer won the same number of matches in one French Open (2012) than Sampras did in his last six French Open appearances.

The average ranking of Sampras' defeats in his last six French Open appearances was 72. The average ranking of Federer's defeats in his last six French Open appearances was 2.5.
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Its worthy to note that, In Sampras' time, seeds hardly made it deep into the toruni, meaning lot of clay-court specialists ruled. Not any more. So its Apples to Oranges.
 
There was also much more disparity in surfaces back then. Hard, played faster and so did grass, not everything is slower, so it was more of an investment to excel in clay.

I think he only won one M1000 on clay.
 
mightyrick said:
I've got news for you. If Federer had to play any of the Top-15 clay players ever, he'd be 50% or less chance to win against them. Federer is good, but the clay field he had to face during his prime (outside of Nadal) is really bad.
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I don't really have a dog in this fight, so feel free to edit my statement to top 15 or top 20 clay players of all time. Whatever the case, Pete is not remotely comparable to Fed on clay and this thread is like comparing the history of the New York Yankees to that of the Seattle Mariners. It's a bit unnecessary.
 
6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
So you think RFederer would have beaten MPuerta (2005), NDjokovic(2006-2008, 2011)?
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It's hard to say with all these hypotheticals. In 2006-2008 at RG I might just give Federer the edge over Djokovic, given that Federer didn't lose at RG for 4 straight years to anyone other than Nadal.

But 2011? Tough to see Federer pulling that one off. Djokovic was having a great year that year - I believe he was like 41-0 by the latter stages of the 2011 French open, AND he had already beaten Nadal twice on clay in that VERY clay season, winning by 4 sets to love. And Federer was just an over-the-hill, 29 year old has-been.

No way he was good enough to have beaten Djokovic in his superman season on clay. I mean, if he could have beaten Djokovic on clay in 2011, and that also over 5 sets at the French what would that imply for when he actually in his peak. Phew. That would be kinda embarrassing no?

What do you think 616360?
 
It doesn't take a lot of courage to argue that Federer is a much greater clay court player than Sampras. Sampras disliked the surface intensely, Federer is one of the all-time great clay court players. Federer is in the class of players like Nadal, Borg, Lendl, Rosewall, Vilas, a few others.
 
bjsnider said:
It doesn't take a lot of courage to argue that Federer is a much greater clay court player than Sampras. Sampras disliked the surface intensely, Federer is one of the all-time great clay court players. Federer is in the class of players like Nadal, Borg, Lendl, Rosewall, Vilas, a few others.
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Yes, Federer could have achieved all time great results on clay if he did not
play in this era against Nadal, IMHO.

In fact, if he played any time before 2000s, he would have achieved much
more on clay than on the fast slippery grass courts or lightening fast hard courts
in the past.

He is very unlucky on clay but lucky on grass and hard courts in this era.
 
6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
So you think RFederer would have beaten MPuerta (2005), NDjokovic(2006-2008, 2011)?
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Puerta would never have been allowed to keep the title had he won the final anyway. He tested positive for a cardiac stimulant after the final. He had his post-French Open results in 2005 annulled entirely, and I believe it was only for reasons of convenience and to avoid a lot of fallout scandals that Puerta's 2005 French Open run to the final wasn't annulled too.
 
falstaff78 said:
It's hard to say with all these hypotheticals. In 2006-2008 at RG I might just give Federer the edge over Djokovic, given that Federer didn't lose at RG for 4 straight years to anyone other than Nadal.

But 2011? Tough to see Federer pulling that one off. Djokovic was having a great year that year - I believe he was like 41-0 by the latter stages of the 2011 French open, AND he had already beaten Nadal twice on clay in that VERY clay season, winning by 4 sets to love. And Federer was just an over-the-hill, 29 year old has-been.

No way he was good enough to have beaten Djokovic in his superman season on clay. I mean, if he could have beaten Djokovic on clay in 2011, and that also over 5 sets at the French what would that imply for when he actually in his peak. Phew. That would be kinda embarrassing no?

What do you think 616360?
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haha xD

I can't see Federer losing to any of those guys except MAYBE Djokovic in 2008, due to Djokovic being in better form the whole tournament till running into Nadal. but even then.. Federer would have gotten up for that match much more so since at that point in time he was not out of his prime nor was Djokovic able to consistently beat him.
 
Honestly, what's the point of this thread? Seriously, everyone and their brother knows Fed is better than Sampras on clay.
 
sbengte said:
Got it. That explains how someone like Nadal managed to win all those FOs and tons of clay tournaments for 8-9 years with supposedly broken knees.
Weak clay era is weak.
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You're picking the wrong fight with me. Because I'll be the first to admit that Nadal's extreme success on clay has been because of weak clay competition. The only thing worse is weak grass competition. I'm fairly confident that Borg and Nadal (and maybe one more) would split success on clay if they had to play each other during the same era.

No arguments from me. The clay field in this era has been so weak that even "upsets" are nearly non-existent.
 
6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
So you think RFederer would have beaten MPuerta (2005), NDjokovic(2006-2008, 2011)?
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He would certainly have beaten Djokovic in 2006,2007 and maybe 2008. Also, he DID beat Djokovic in 2011 and would have faced Murray in the final. He would have won that too. IDK about 2005.
 
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