Federer El Aynaoui Halle 2003 highlights

BeatlesFan

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Rod Laver, 2006: "People talk about serves, forehands and backhands. But by far the most important factor in any tennis player's game is movement."

Yet we endlessly hear on TTW that peak Fed is 2014-2019. Anyone with two functioning eyeballs can see how explosive, effortless and fast Roger was then. His movement now is seriously degraded from this level, very obviously.
 

Lew II

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Rod Laver, 2006: "People talk about serves, forehands and backhands. But by far the most important factor in any tennis player's game is movement."

Yet we endlessly hear on TTW that peak Fed is 2014-2019. Anyone with two functioning eyeballs can see how explosive, effortless and fast Roger was then. His movement now is seriously degraded from this level, very obviously.
Federer himself disagrees with you.
 

Raining hopes

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Federer himself disagrees with you.
And ? Do I have to post millions of quotes from Nadalovic saying Federer is best ever?


Or Nadal saying his upcoming match is going to be tough even if it's against a qualifier at RG ?

Or Djokovic talking about out of body experience at RG 2016 final ?

Or Stan calling Roger the best ever ?

Safin saying his era was tougher ?

Djokovic at RG 2006 talking about how he had his match against Nadal in control ?

Tell me each one of them are lying?
Or if you disagree , you know more than them ?
 

Raining hopes

Hall of Fame
And ? Do I have to post millions of quotes from Nadalovic saying Federer is best ever?


Or Nadal saying his upcoming match is going to be tough even if it's against a qualifier at RG ?

Or Djokovic talking about out of body experience at RG 2016 final ?

Or Stan calling Roger the best ever ?

Safin saying his era was tougher ?

Djokovic at RG 2006 talking about how he had his match against Nadal in control ?

Tell me each one of them are lying?
Or if you disagree , you know more than them ?

@Lew II ,at every step you go against the idea of " Federer being the GOAT and the Best ever" which is something 90% of the tour can be quoted right now. You regularly defy that idea.

Now when it comes to the statement
" Federer is playing better than ever " you keep quoting people.

Hypocritic much?



You believe in Federer so much ? You think he is always right ? That's adorable.

Let's get his honest and most technically sound opinion of Nadal and Djokovic

" He is one dimensional ..." Federer before RG 2006

For Djokovic, Federer indirectly accused him of faking injuries. He went on to say that Djokovic did nothing special in his loss at Canada 2007.


So Nadal is one dimensional
Djokovic is a faker who can't do anything special.
So much for Federer's ultimate opinions.


Most of the time Player say whatever they think will help them please people and not cause controversy. Not exactly what they think.
 

Lew II

Legend
And ? Do I have to post millions of quotes from Nadalovic saying Federer is best ever?


Or Nadal saying his upcoming match is going to be tough even if it's against a qualifier at RG ?

Or Djokovic talking about out of body experience at RG 2016 final ?

Or Stan calling Roger the best ever ?

Safin saying his era was tougher ?

Djokovic at RG 2006 talking about how he had his match against Nadal in control ?

Tell me each one of them are lying?
Or if you disagree , you know more than them ?
All respectable opinions.

The first one is not true. They say greatest.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
But you always try to play it like it is.

Now I will try to accept this as a Fact ,from the most complete player ever:
Djokovic is not more complete than Federer or Nadal. All the members of the Big 3 are about eally complete. Djokovic is not more complete than Federer for obvious reasons.

And Nadal is the most complete player ever in outdoor conditions. Nadal has his Grand Slams more evenly distributed by surface than Djokovic. In effect, Nadal has won at least 2 Grand Slams on each surface (hard, grass and clay). Djokovic only has 1 Grand Slam on clay. 2 GS on each surface >>> 1 GS on each surface.

Djokovic is more complete than Nadal on indoor conditions only. But to be more complete than Nadal overall, Djokovic needs to be more complete both on indoor and outdoor conditions (not only on indoor). In other words, Djokovic needs to win 1-2 extra Roland Garros to be more complete than Nadal. Djokovic ain't more complete than Nadal with only 1 Grand Slam on clay.
 

RF-18

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic is not more complete than Federer or Nadal. All the members of the Big 3 are about eally complete. Djokovic is not more complete than Federer for obvious reasons.

And Nadal is the most complete player ever in outdoor conditions. Nadal has his Grand Slams more evenly distributed by surface than Djokovic. In effect, Nadal has won at least 2 Grand Slams on each surface (hard, grass and clay). Djokovic only has 1 Grand Slam on clay. 2 GS on each surface >>> 1 GS on each surface.

Djokovic is more complete than Nadal on indoor conditions only. But to be more complete than Nadal overall, Djokovic needs to be more complete both on indoor and outdoor conditions (not only on indoor). In other words, Djokovic needs to win 1-2 extra Roland Garros to be more complete than Nadal. Djokovic ain't more complete than Nadal with only 1 Grand Slam on clay.
Djokovic is definitely a more complete player than Nadal despite you spamming the same nonsense over and over again about outdoor conditions. Djokovic is by far more accomplished than Nadal on all sets of HCs, both outdoor and indoor, and also on grass where he has won 4 Wimbledon titles to Nadals 2. Nadal is only better on clay so far.

Further, Djokovic has won all four majors at once on three different surfaces. He has won all 9 masters events. He has been more dominant AND consistent than Nadal across majority of the surfaces and conditions on tour with almost a hundred more weeks at #1 and being the best player for 5 seasons.

Both Djokovic and Federer are more complete players than Nadal who's game falls apart as soon as he steps indoors.
 
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King No1e

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Rod Laver, 2006: "People talk about serves, forehands and backhands. But by far the most important factor in any tennis player's game is movement."

Yet we endlessly hear on TTW that peak Fed is 2014-2019. Anyone with two functioning eyeballs can see how explosive, effortless and fast Roger was then. His movement now is seriously degraded from this level, very obviously.
But didn't you hear? The game is constantly evolving! (Until 2015 of course, after that the evolution stopped).
 

King No1e

Legend
Djokovic is definitely a more complete player than Nadal despite you spamming the same nonsense over and over again about outdoor conditions. Djokovic is by far more accomplished than Nadal on all sets of HCs, both outdoor and indoor, and also on grass where he has won 4 Wimbledon titles to Nadals 2. Nadal is only better on clay so far.

Further, Djokovic has won all four majors at once on three different surfaces. He has won all 9 masters events. He has been more dominant AND consistent than Nadal across majority of the surfaces and conditions on tour with almost a hundred more weeks at #1 and being the best player for 5 seasons.

Both Djokovic and Federer are more complete players than Nadal who's game falls apart as soon as he steps indoors.
Nadal is more complete outdoor, but Djokovic is more complete overall.
 

Otacon

Hall of Fame
El Aynaoui had a great forehand, a solid serve and good hands at the net. But he was slow and his backhand was a joke. But the most amazing thing about him, is that despite zero financial support from the sporting authorities in Morocco, he managed to turn pro and have success. He was a true self-made man.
 

Baghdatis4TW

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Rod Laver, 2006: "People talk about serves, forehands and backhands. But by far the most important factor in any tennis player's game is movement."

Yet we endlessly hear on TTW that peak Fed is 2014-2019. Anyone with two functioning eyeballs can see how explosive, effortless and fast Roger was then. His movement now is seriously degraded from this level, very obviously.
Riiiight.

Tell me, which of these three had the worst career: Ivo Karlovic, Bjorn Phau, John Isner.
 
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