Federer Fans - Anti climatic feeling?

Brett UK

Semi-Pro
I have been a Federer fan since the beginning and rode all the ups and downs. How hard it was to accept his decline and lose of consistency once we got into this decade. Wimbledon 2012 felt like the icing on the cake at the time, and then when he beat Nadal in 2017 in 5 sets it felt like the perfect exorcising of demons that Federer fans needed, and my mood felt similar to Federer's as he celebrated hard. However, this Wimbledon victory came as easy as a 1st rounder so the reaction at the end was not one of relief for me. I feel very pleased but it reminded me of the 2005, 2006 victories where there was no palpable sense of relief.

However, I am super happy. Only 3% of slam winners in last 40 years have been older than 30 so to win 2/2/ slams at 35 is special. And the 8th Wimbledon has been quite elusive thanks to the brilliance of Djokovic. Those final losses to Djokovic were painful so it is great to get this win.

Federer might not get a lot of credit for his performance in the final but I felt that his returning was off the charts. It made a huge difference that he was driving his backhand returns on second serve. Completely changes the composition of the match.

Federer fans might not always like or appreciate Nadal or Djokovic but having quality opposition is what makes the wins so special. You need to suffer disappointment to enjoy the victories. You need to climb the difficult mountains to feel satisfied.

It is a privilege to be able to witness such greatness.
 

Flash O'Groove

Hall of Fame
Yes, this eight title which should be huge feel a bit like only a 500. All in all he had a though draw with Zverev, Dimitrov, Raonic, Berdych and Cilic all competent grass courters. But he navigated this draw with such ease that it doesn't feel like it was challenging. You are right that he returned well. And of course served well.

At the end I can't think of many wimbledon runner up who wouldn't have beaten this Cilic quite easilly. The only one who may have found a way to struggle being Nalbandian. Even Berdych or Raonic would have done the job fairly easily.
 

Fedinkum

Legend
Fed played really well in his last last 3 matches to tame 3 very dangerous opponents. The patterns were the same...all 3 opponents played a great 1st set but Fed held them off and none of them recovered from a shocked 1st set lost...they all thought:" I played a great 1st set, why I am still behind..."

A little anti climatic last night but Fed played a part...
 
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Brett UK

Semi-Pro
Yes, this eight title which should be huge feel a bit like only a 500. All in all he had a though draw with Zverev, Dimitrov, Raonic, Berdych and Cilic all competent grass courters. But he navigated this draw with such ease that it doesn't feel like it was challenging. You are right that he returned well. And of course served well.

At the end I can't think of many wimbledon runner up who wouldn't have beaten this Cilic quite easilly. The only one who may have found a way to struggle being Nalbandian. Even Berdych or Raonic would have done the job fairly easily.
yes although if Cilic was not playing Federer he might have been able to get into the match
 

Brett UK

Semi-Pro
Fed played really well in his last last 3 matches to tame 3 very dangerous opponents. The patterns were the same...all 3 opponents played a great 1st set but Fed held them off and none of them recovered from a shocked lost...they all probably think:" I played a great 1set, why I am still behind..."

A little anti climatic last night but Fed played a part...
I agree because Federer didn't have his A baseline game in force but he had A+ on returns
 

Flash O'Groove

Hall of Fame
I agree because Federer didn't have his A baseline game in force but he had A+ on returns

If he couldn't move correctly the best he could hope against anyone would be somehow to steal a set. But all the players who reached a wimbledon final in the past are good and know hot to hold serve. Cilic's return were bad.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
I imagine(in fact I know) winning #8 would've felt much more special for Fed fans had he done so by beating Novak in one of the 2014/15 finals or even by getting to the final last year and beating Murray but at the end of the day a win is a win and the record books don't care about your competition, only your numbers.
 

Federer and Del Potro

Bionic Poster
I imagine(in fact I know) winning #8 would've felt much more special for Fed fans had he done so by beating Novak in one of the 2014/15 finals or even by getting to the final last year and beating Murray but at the end of the day a win is a win and the record books don't care about your competition, only your numbers.

Cilic scared me more than Murray. Murray hasn't beaten Federer in 4 yrs. Nobody could have predicted Cilic's implosion really. That said I was still nervous throughout and Cilic showed flashes of maybe getting into the match somehow.

Beating Cilic more satisfying than Murray at this point. Especially after Cilic blew him off the court at the USO. Was a different kind of revenge today, albeit an unexpected romp.

Yeah beating Djokovic would have been more satisfying, but not Murray imo. Plus it's not like he hasn't beaten Murray here for a title already.
 
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Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Yes, but it's not Fed's fault.
Cilic was dropping sets even before his blister. To dead-tired Muller even.

Even without blisters, I doubt Cilic could have done much. Maybe taken one set to a TB.
That's all.

Let's not pretend the result would have been starkly different.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Nobody could have predicted Cilic's implosion really. That said I was still nervous throughout and Cilic showed flashes of maybe getting into the match somehow.

Beating Cilic more satisfying than Murray at this point. Especially after Cilic blew him off the court at the USO. Was a different kind of revenge today, albeit an unexpected romp.

The Cilic who blew him off the court was a different animal. This one got through easily till he faced Muller, and then he showed his real form by dropping two sets. Did you see the errors he made against Muller and SQ ?

Although i did not predict an implosion, but judging by his errors in the previous matches it was clear, and i said so, that Fed would not allow these errors to get by. The only worry was that Fed should not have a lousy day himself.
 

Federer and Del Potro

Bionic Poster
Yes, but it's not Fed's fault.
Cilic was dropping sets even before his blister. To dead-tired Muller even.

Even without blisters, I doubt Cilic could have done much. Maybe taken one set to a TB.
That's all.

Let's not pretend the result would have been starkly different.

It wouldn't have been, but Cilic is more of an unknown than Murray, which makes him scarier IMO. You know what you're going to get with Murray and his game. Never changes. And Federer has ragdolled him for 4 yrs straight.

Really aside from the Olympics where he played what, that 19-17 third set, Murray has never done anything to bother Federer on grass. And last year I'd hope he could beat a one legged Federer.

On the flip side Murray was the one way too injured to bother Federer here this yr.
 

Federer and Del Potro

Bionic Poster
The Cilic who blew him off the court was a different animal. This one got through easily till he faced Muller, and then he showed his real form by dropping two sets. Did you see the errors he made against Muller and SQ ?

Although i did not predict an implosion, but judging by his errors in the previous matches it was clear, and i said so, that Fed would not allow these errors to get by. The only worry was that Fed should not have a lousy day himself.

Yeah his errors is actually why I was skeptical people were picking him to win. He showed nerves vs Sam Querrey. The Federer haters were busy circlejerking Federer's nerves but pretending Cilic had none. Here's a post I wrote pre match:

Everyone is bemoaning Federer's nerves and acting like Cilic has had an iron stomach. He looked very visibly nervous at points today.

Whoever contains their nerves has the immediate advantage, and I have a hard time believing Cilic is going to beat him in that department, not unless he gets out to a lead.
 

Federer and Del Potro

Bionic Poster
Ultimately I don't see anyone that could have posed a bigger threat than Cilic from that side. Maybe Rafa is Federer suddenly redeveloped his mental block against him. Murray was not even close to being healthy enough to bother Federer, and neither was Djokovic. So in reality the draw was about as hard as it could be.

Beating a gimped Djokovic or Murray wouldn't have been any more satisfying than anything that happened, IMO.

It's easy to say in hindsight Cilic was 'easy' but there were a lot of nervous Federer fans before today's match, myself included.
 

Shaolin

Talk Tennis Guru
For some reason this win seemed a little subdued…I'll take it though. A great day for the sport of tennis and sport in general.
 

Jackuar

Hall of Fame
Its not really anti-climax for me but AO was much more sweeter and satisfying. I celebrated that almost until start of Wimbly. This one feels finished already.
 

jimjam

Professional
It's partly due to the AO final causing stronger emotions than any match I've watched in the past 15 years. Such a rollercoaster.

It was always going to be hard to match.

Still happy tho, obviously.
 
It's partly due to the AO final causing stronger emotions than any match I've watched in the past 15 years. Such a rollercoaster.

It was always going to be hard to match.

Still happy tho, obviously.

It is not only that.

Before the AO final many Federer fans were just happy to see Roger be in another final without much expectation after the long pause.

The win caught them by surprise and released a river of undiluted positive feelings.

This time around many were nervous, because of Federer's exploits until now, knowing that if his fine form holds up it might be just enough to win the whole thing.

As far as I could see it caused some nail biting and probably some previous disappointments surfaced, so it wasn't as positive in the end.

They are young and will get used to that sort of experience.

:cool:
 

junior74

Bionic Poster
It was surprising, and sad, that Cilic couldn't perform at a better level. I was actually quite impressed with the way he handled Muller and Querrey, and I was almost certain he would take a set in the final. I am surprised he got broken in all sets. Never thought that was gonna happen. But he didn't get his 1-2 combos going, like he did in his other matches. And he never got in any kind of grove in this match. He was on the outside of everything, hence the tears.

I have always liked Cilic and now I hope more than ever that he can remotivate and fight for more slams.

As for Federer, I thought he looked very focused and he looked incredibly confident. Hardly made any mistakes. But it was a little too easy. Reminded very much of Rafa's RG in that regard. Like they never needed the extra gears, cruising.
 

martini1

Hall of Fame
I feel a little bit "disappointed" to his celebrations. It wasn't exactly like any of his other wins. He didn't scream, jump, let alone falling to the ground like most Slam win celebrations. I understand he cried but that's about moving back to the bench. May be the crowd was too bored from this match? Or is it just Fed made it look to easy?

If I had a time machine back in like 2014 or something, came to read the news in 2017 and saw he won AO and Wimby, I would have said those are fake news and PS photos! LOL

Incredible year! I won't feel sad anymore if Fed retires next year, the year after. He did way more than anybody can do. And still no that next talented young kid rising to take the center stage, like he did back in 2003.
 

Ralph

Hall of Fame
Yeah it does feel anti-climactic. Cilic's condition contributes a lot to that feeling me thinks.

This.

Am glad others have pointed out the anti-climactic feeling of yesterday. Compared to the Australian Open final, fifth set - which I watch about once a week and it still stirs up wonderful emotions....

If Federer can keep up this level and not pick up an injury, the US Open will be interesting. There's NO WAY he'll sail through to that title, even WITHOUT Novak or Andy there. It's a more equal playing field, and the next gen stars are chomping at the bit on that surface - Kyrgios, Zverev... Then there's the usual suspects from Nisikori, and I'm sure a returned to health Cilic etc.

The US is gonna be great.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
If you mean was the final "anti-climactic" (not anti-climatic--wrong word), yes the Wimbledon final was a bust because I always like to see competitive matches but I'll take the result. We don't get to pick and choose how a match or final will turn out and in the end only the results matter.
 
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Deleted member 733170

Guest
We've been spoilt in recent memory by so many great finals, that yesterday's match does indeed seem like an anticlimax.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah definitely anti climactic for me too. And agree with the point about needing all the great players playing well. I've enjoyed Federer's awesome play obviously, and respected the resurgence of Nadal, but honestly with Djokovic and Murray playing absolutely terrible I feel like something is missing. Please don't let them dominate again, but they should at least play something resembling tennis because this is just sad.
 

Gazelle

G.O.A.T.
If you mean was the final "anti-climactic" (not anti-climatic--wrong word), yes the Wimbledon final was a bust because I always like to see competitive matches but I'll take the result. We don't get to pick and choose how a match or final will turn out and in the end only the results matter.

Lol, I hadn't even noticed the typo.
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
He wasn't tested in the final.

To close it out with second serve ace like Sampras vs Agassi was a nice touch though.
 

cknobman

Legend
Yes it was a tad anti-climatic.

Cilic came out firing but the second he was broken you could see it on his face, the match was over.
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
Nothing tops AO 2017 for pure joy and emotions but I was still really happy for Federer to win after the disappointments in 14-16,
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Yes, this eight title which should be huge feel a bit like only a 500. All in all he had a though draw with Zverev, Dimitrov, Raonic, Berdych and Cilic all competent grass courters. But he navigated this draw with such ease that it doesn't feel like it was challenging. You are right that he returned well. And of course served well.

At the end I can't think of many wimbledon runner up who wouldn't have beaten this Cilic quite easilly. The only one who may have found a way to struggle being Nalbandian. Even Berdych or Raonic would have done the job fairly easily.
Yep, the climate had no challenges. Fed is a great champion, triumphing over the Wimbledon climate.

(Maybe not a weak era, but a not very competitive era, because Fed did not have to battle wind or rain or heat, etc. ;))
 
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