Federer - How many more slams can he win?
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Are you joking? He’s definitely slowed down. Thank God his serve is better than ever, and he now has a backhand.
He just doesn’t have that weapon of a FH anymore. All match long this one felt like it was on Cilic’s racquet.
He just doesn’t have that weapon of a FH anymore. All match long this one felt like it was on Cilic’s racquet.
killerboi2
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If good competition turns up... 0. With these mugs, who knows how much he is going to win. This nonsense paraded around by his fans about his physical decline is complete garbage. The guy is as fit as ever. He's gonna need the weak competition for sure though. Imagine a player at least half as good as Djoko at AO. Imagine prime Andre at AO. He wouldn't stand a prayer. Guy barely got it done against Nadal at his worst slam lmao.
augustobt
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Suck it harder then swallow it. 20 and counting.
Sudacafan
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If they close the roof, he is winning RG this year.
augustobt
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Was the roof closed on last year's AO?
Sudacafan
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Neither last year nor never before.
metsman
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It'll take some divine intervention to win a HC major again as much as I want him to desperately get that 6th USO. At Wimbledon he should still be a contender for the next few years hopefully.
But on HC at this point he's vulnerable to any consistent hitter, and as bad as the tour is I don't expect him to be able to servebot and junkpush his way to victory again.
But on HC at this point he's vulnerable to any consistent hitter, and as bad as the tour is I don't expect him to be able to servebot and junkpush his way to victory again.
augustobt
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Actually it was closed when Fed played Djokovic in the semis of 2016, yet Nole trashed him in the first two sets. But I thought they were trying to benefit Rog
I guess this might be a bitter pill to swallow to all you nadturds.
MeatTornado
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Did we watch the same match?
MeatTornado
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1 more USO this year to grab the record. 1 more Wimbledon next year to end on.
Sudacafan
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Seems I touched a sensitive nerve. Relax, RG roof is not coming any soon.Actually it was closed when Fed played Djokovic in the semis of 2016, yet Nole trashed him in the first two sets. But I thought they were trying to benefit Rog
I guess this might be a bitter pill to swallow to all you nadturds.
metsman
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Outside of the late 4th his serve was damn good this match. Serve+Variety won him this one plus some solid returning. Off the ground he had very little.
Serve+Variety is going to work fine at Wimbledon, but with this FH it is tough to see him winning more HC majors. If he gets that early 17 FH back, then sure.
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Yip. His first serve % was miserable, particularly in set 4, but overall he hit so many spots. What was it 15-20 aces?
It kept him in it, all the groundstrokes rallies after the first set went the way of Cilic.
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Totally agree with this assessment, I pretty much wrote the same thing over in the match thread. FH was well off, and even though the BH held up he was floating slices more than driving it. For whatever reason(s), groundstrokes were well off today.
BeatlesFan
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You must not have been watching the AO final. He has slowed down massively even since last year. His movement was slow by the third set and he was clearly gassed despite having an easy road to the final. He'll be helped by the next Gens being complete garbage.
Maybe one more Wimbledon this year. Fingers crossed.
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Margaret Court is getting nervous
Cilic for some spells got into the area of Federer's game which has been known to be troublesome for him. Which is when big hitters hit flat and long and make him struggle because he does not want to give up his advanced position on the field. Basically refuses to drop 2m behind the line so he needs to hit those deep flat shots (most on his backhand) perfectly almost as a half volley, and as much as Federer is a genius at making those crazy tough shots work he also makes more mistakes because of the technical difficulty of such shots.
metsman
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I just don't think he has the movement to hang with a guy who was hitting the ball as well as Cilic was today. Which is fine, because there's not many guys out there who can hit the ball like Cilic. But Cilic errors to give him breaks, the serve, and that GOAT half volley in the third set is why he won. But still the fight and fire he showed in the fifth set was amazing at his age. Especially after that bad line call prolonged the first game.
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This could be it. Roger just doesn’t want to get off the baseline at this point. Let’s hope its this, watching him have nothing on his groundstrokes today was alarming.
kalyan4fedever
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He could win USO also , had they decided not to make the courts to play slower than clay
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GOAT half volley. What an amazing thing to see.
Yea, basically why Djokovic (and to a lesser extent Del Potro) has won so many games against Federer while also claiming the aggressor's role. He can hit long and flat better than pretty much anyone. Cilic can do it as well, but he hits with less strenght than Del Potro (who has been able to hit through Federer on the forehand basically on brute power), and hith less consistency and accuracy than prime Djokovic.
metsman
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Absurd shot. Now more than ever, when his movement and FH are pale shadows of what they are, you can see just how talented the guy is because he can improvise just about anything and has to in order to keep up since hitting people off the court is not an option. What hands...
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MasturB
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Did you not even watch last year's AO and Wimby? The forehand was old schoolesque.
All depends on injuries. If feds back starts acting up like it did before the 2017 US Open. It could spell trouble.
There is very little separation in men’s tennis. Honestly. Anyone in the top 50 can beat each other on any given day in men’s tennis since a good server always has a punchers chance on the men’s side.
But as of right now. With no young guys consistently performing well. The old guard on/off injured.
I can see Federer winning at least 2 more grand slams in the next 2 years. Possibly 4
Don’t think we see Fed at the French open again. He skips the clay season to save on the wear and tear and he won’t risk Wimbledon by playing no clay courts and just playing the French only. Cause he could still advance to the QF at the French by showing up with no clay preparation. But Fed isn’t playing for QF appearances. He’s playing to win. So taxing his body for 4-5 matches on clay with no real chance to win at the French is not worth it.
Wimbledon and the AO are feds best chances. Faster courts. US Open courts are much slower. Thus Federer will have a harder time winning there. I know he was recently in the 2015 Us open finals and blew so many break chances against a peak
Djokovic. But other players could step up at the us open over Federer.
There is very little separation in men’s tennis. Honestly. Anyone in the top 50 can beat each other on any given day in men’s tennis since a good server always has a punchers chance on the men’s side.
But as of right now. With no young guys consistently performing well. The old guard on/off injured.
I can see Federer winning at least 2 more grand slams in the next 2 years. Possibly 4
Don’t think we see Fed at the French open again. He skips the clay season to save on the wear and tear and he won’t risk Wimbledon by playing no clay courts and just playing the French only. Cause he could still advance to the QF at the French by showing up with no clay preparation. But Fed isn’t playing for QF appearances. He’s playing to win. So taxing his body for 4-5 matches on clay with no real chance to win at the French is not worth it.
Wimbledon and the AO are feds best chances. Faster courts. US Open courts are much slower. Thus Federer will have a harder time winning there. I know he was recently in the 2015 Us open finals and blew so many break chances against a peak
Djokovic. But other players could step up at the us open over Federer.
AiRFederer
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metsman
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AO and IW his FH looked great, but he hasn't quite gotten there since, outside of a few matches here and there (mostly in Basel/Wimby). We'll see if he can still bring the heat there off a guy who gives him more chances to attack than Cilic did today (guy was either crushing the ball or missing so we didn't really get to see Fed take advantage of many mid court balls).
Newballs
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I was afraid of that going into this match.
Always knew that Cilic had more than enough power to take Rog out.
But it’s more involved than that.
Cilic had chances, Federer had chances...
I think the last set says it all...
metsman
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I think this level is still plenty to win on grass, but yeah if this and WTF are the norm on HC from now on, winning is unlikely unless the draw is weak. But we will see.
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Yes, but he’s also at the point where he is aging in dog years now.
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Interested to see who can rise as contenders by Wimbledon. Cilic, Dimitrov and Kyrgios? Djokovic or Murray? (Nadal? Zverev?)
Agreed. He won this AO, but can't say his level has been as good as it's been in early 2017. A level below. He hasn't faced as tough opponents as last year. 2017 Wawrinka, Nishikori and Nadal are a lot better than anyone he's faced in 2018 except for Cilic (arguably in the case of Nishikori).
tennis_pro
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Wilander said 2-3.
These guys have to make it deep to meet Federer. Only Federer and Djokovic, and Raonic to some extent have shown any consistency on grass in the last 3 years or so. And two of them seem to be struggling a lot with injuries.
So right now, the only player in the world with the credentials, the form, the knowledge and the ability to be considered the player to beat at Wimbledon is Federer. No one comes close until Djokovic get's back to his 2014-2016 leves on grass.
MathGeek
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Can? Probably as many as 5 if he stays healthy and gets a few breaks.
Will? Dunno. Prognostication is not my strong suit. Time is catching up, and the slow decline of age is hard to predict.
But Fed is fun to watch, and I hope he keeps playing several more years regardless of whether he is adding to the slam count. The younger generation still has much to learn, and they will learn it faster and more completely if Federer remains on the court.
Will? Dunno. Prognostication is not my strong suit. Time is catching up, and the slow decline of age is hard to predict.
But Fed is fun to watch, and I hope he keeps playing several more years regardless of whether he is adding to the slam count. The younger generation still has much to learn, and they will learn it faster and more completely if Federer remains on the court.
metsman
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I think all 3 played better than Cilic actually
But it's important to note that since Cilic played such a volatile game off the ground, obviously Fed's groundies were going to look limited. But his defense looked good for his age, he was very consistent, and outside of a 2 game stretch his serve is still dynamite. And boy those hands...
But let's not forget how similar this was to the Stan match. Stan definitely did play quite a bit better than Cilic overall but Fed wasn't exactly looking amazing at the end there, somehow putting together a win with serving/variety/stan errors, and he looked thoroughly overmatched off the ground when Stan was firing, and he still came up with the goods vs Nadal because Rafa gave him way more chances to attack.
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