Federer is such a joy to watch from a strict esthetic standpoint

Apun94

Hall of Fame
#7
Maybe it's because i have seen him play for so many years but Federer's style doesnt captivate me anymore, as it used to. Although I do think he doesnt play that gracefully as he used to back in his physical prime. That was pure art
 
#14
Maybe it's because i have seen him play for so many years but Federer's style doesnt captivate me anymore, as it used to. Although I do think he doesnt play that gracefully as he used to back in his physical prime. That was pure art
Agreed.

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#25
Federer is now aesthetically pleasing because he's playing survival tennis most days; pulling out all stops in the most hacker like manner to win matches. It will continue. There is no other road for him to travel. You will see splendiferous backhand slices ad infinitum.
 
#29
I thought both are correct given the context.
They are both correct. "Esthetic" is more commonly used in USA.
Wrong. Esthetics is the American version of the word, but which has a slightly different and narrow meaning relating specifically to the cosmetic industry. It refers to the appreciation of beauty (eyebrows, hair, facial treatments etc).

Aesthetics is the appreciation of something that is artistic or appealing to our senses (also a field of philosophy related to such).

In no way other than without additional added context is the use of "esthetics" a correct option here - unless of course we're talking liberally where parlance/spelling can be anything you want it to be (as is sometimes the case depending on the situation).
 
#30
Wrong. Esthetics is the American version of the word, but which has a slightly different and narrow meaning relating specifically to the cosmetic industry. It refers to the appreciation of beauty (eyebrows, hair, facial treatments etc).

Aesthetics is the appreciation of something that is artistic or appealing to our senses (also a field of philosophy related to such).

In no way other than without additional added context is the use of "esthetics" a correct option here - unless of course we're talking liberally where parlance/spelling can be anything you want it to be (as is sometimes the case depending on the situation).
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aesthetic
 

NKDM

Professional
#32
Another under appreciated aspect of that ‘beauty’ is that he’s still playing at 38.

Good technique is not just easy on the eye but also on the body.
 
#39
His FH swing is much more compacted from what it used to be:

It's mostly the fact that with his current forehand the tip of his racquet points forward for a lot longer than back in the day. The current takeback generates more spin and pace (since the racquet moves a longer distance in the same timeframe) whereas the older one is cleaner and more consistent. Makes sense considering the increase in headsize.

However, that video you posted is after he made big changes in his takeback; I think it was around K90 era / 2006-7 when he first switched. Nadal did something similar around 2006/2007. His old takeback was far more conventional (and IMO more versatile).
 
#40
It's mostly the fact that with his current forehand the tip of his racquet points forward for a lot longer than back in the day. The current takeback generates more spin and pace (since the racquet moves a longer distance in the same timeframe) whereas the older one is cleaner and more consistent. Makes sense considering the increase in headsize.

However, that video you posted is after he made big changes in his takeback; I think it was around K90 era / 2006-7 when he first switched. Nadal did something similar around 2006/2007. His old takeback was far more conventional (and IMO more versatile).
Yep.

Fed has had a few different FH and BH styles through his career.

I’d love to go into depth with it. I’ve spotted all the little changes hehe
 
#41
Yep.

Fed has had a few different FH and BH styles through his career.

I’d love to go into depth with it. I’ve spotted all the little changes hehe
Let’s DO go over all the changes.

Start a thread, you Fed fan, you...! I’m out so I won’t be able to reply tonight but I’ll be on it ASAP. Or at the very least, watching and learning :)
 
#42
Let’s DO go over all the changes.

Start a thread, you Fed fan, you...! I’m out so I won’t be able to reply tonight but I’ll be on it ASAP. Or at the very least, watching and learning :)
I have uni all day today. It’ll have to be tomorrow (Tuesday for those in the US/Europe).
 

NKDM

Professional
#43
His FH swing is much more compacted from what it used to be:

Looks like a compact practice swing to me, the kind used to get warmed up, not his full swing he uses in matches.

Even a rec player like myself when I step on court, for the first few mins I'll choke up on the grip move inside the baseline and hit with an abbreviated swing until the arm is loosened up.

But I could be wrong... I'd have to see actually match footage with a before/after to be convinced there has been a change in the swing.
 
#44
it is the footwork and movement just as much if not more than the strikes that makes fedr so aestheticly pleasing. many have smooth fh and bh but the craftiness, movement and intelligence is indispensable to the artistic whole.
 
#47
Maybe it's because i have seen him play for so many years but Federer's style doesnt captivate me anymore, as it used to. Although I do think he doesnt play that gracefully as he used to back in his physical prime. That was pure art
You mean back in the weak era.
 
#49
He almost tripped himself with that right toe on the landing there.

My favourite slow motion tennis video of all time is this:

to extend that, this whole video is sick (includes that clip), probably my favorite tennis video. You can really see the FH in all its glory and then as it changes for the worse. I love those side views because you can really see the timing and magnitude of the trunk rotation he gets, or got. Unreal.

 
#50
to extend that, this whole video is sick (includes that clip), probably my favorite tennis video. You can really see the FH in all its glory and then as it changes for the worse. I love those side views because you can really see the timing and magnitude of the trunk rotation he gets, or got. Unreal.

Change from 2007?

Imagine how many slams this guy could’ve won with the 03-06 FH?
 
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