If he can't manage his season to play a full year, OR if he's just smart - he knows his only real chances are on clay so he plays a million matches in the first half and then is asleep / injured for the second half... that's up to him. Two W finals = genuine grass contender. Two years of winning nothing in the second half of the year = non-genuine competitor over that period.
Federer is the one turning around rivalry with Nadal, in his favor.
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If he can't manage his season to play a full year, OR if he's just smart - he knows his only real chances are on clay so he plays a million matches in the first half and then is asleep / injured for the second half... that's up to him. Two W finals = genuine grass contender. Two years of winning nothing in the second half of the year = non-genuine competitor over that period.
VoodooChild24
Semi-Pro
Why are Fed fans so insecure with Nadal and they need to create a thread just to justify that?
To counter all the dumb accusations and trash talking that Nadal fans have toward Fed.
M
Morrissey
Guest
To counter all the dumb accusations and trash talking that Nadal fans have toward Fed.
Really? Outside of a tiny handful of them it's nothing compared to the trash talking from the 15-20 Fed trolls. And a lot of the trash talking after Fed loses are not from Nadal fans but fans of the Nalby, Joker type.
Rhino
Legend
Dude please. enough already.
stormholloway
Legend
They seem to meet a lot on clay though. The more often they meet on clay the more the h2h tilts in Nadal's favor.
Federer is most definitely turning the rivalry around. His best shot to win the French is this year in my opinion.
Federer is most definitely turning the rivalry around. His best shot to win the French is this year in my opinion.
I suppose you mean next year (2008). However, people were predicting that 2007 was his best shot. I think it depends if Nadal is vulnerable leading up to the FO.
Really? Why are you being so sensitive? Are you one of those loud mouths that I have mentioned? The Fed trolls are there to prevent the Nadal trolls from running over the board. Just to keep the universe balanced.
:grin:
whistleway
Semi-Pro
All this h2h discussion is BS.
Unless Federer can beat Rafa on real clay (no, hamburg doesn't count) like in MC, Rome or RG, all this talk is crap.
Federer knows Rafa was the only one standing between him and French Open for the last three years running. And that gotta hurt no matter how you slice it. He could have equalled Laver's 2 calendar slams this year and silenced all this GOAT ******** forever.
Instead of that, he's been threatened in his own backyard and almost came close to losing it this year. He has never been taken to a five setter in all his grand slam wins and Nadal took it to him at his most favorite slam.
Unless Federer can beat Rafa on real clay (no, hamburg doesn't count) like in MC, Rome or RG, all this talk is crap.
Federer knows Rafa was the only one standing between him and French Open for the last three years running. And that gotta hurt no matter how you slice it. He could have equalled Laver's 2 calendar slams this year and silenced all this GOAT ******** forever.
Instead of that, he's been threatened in his own backyard and almost came close to losing it this year. He has never been taken to a five setter in all his grand slam wins and Nadal took it to him at his most favorite slam.
Are you another Nadal troll?
WTF is real clay? I can also say that Wimbledon these days are not real grass and that is the reason why Nadal can get 2 finals.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
You are absolutely correct. However, nadal will have to beat fed on real hard courts. Miami and Dubai don't count as real hard courts.
hewittboy
Banned
So Hamburg somehow doesnt count as "real" clay (this is the first time I heard that from anyone) yet the farcial grass they play on now at Wimbledon is "real" grass. LOL! Whoever you are, you are such a Nadal loving troll.
ninman
Hall of Fame
Yeah, god that frame he used was way too small if he could only take 5 games off Federer over 2 sets.
ninman
Hall of Fame
Not to mention real grass, Wimbledon certainly doesn't count.
whistleway
Semi-Pro
Are you another Nadal troll?
WTF is real clay? I can also say that Wimbledon these days are not real grass and that is the reason why Nadal can get 2 finals.
haha.. of all the things, I run a huge federer blog, for all you care.
http://federermagic.blogspot.com
Real clay = clay similar to those of RG conditions. Hamburg is damp, cold and slow.
Yeah, the grass is slow. I am not trying to match nadal against federer because nadal was not the one who had a "federer slam" and an eventual grand slam on line for 2 years in a row.
Until Federer beats Nadal on RG, all this hogwash of h2h is just as I said earlier, BS.
Federer can be 50-10 for all I care against Nadal, but if he can't win against him on RG, then a big pffttt....
God you have gone so far overboard with this. Like a 4 year old that wont let go of his favorite toy. By the way, just to add to my rant, FedererFanatic, maybe you could stop making threads on how you think Federer is overtaking Nadal or Nadal is losing his touch ect. Do you have to make a new one every day or what?
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federerfanatic
Blah blah blah, Federer has won 5 of his 7...
Blah blah blah, Federer has won 5 of his 7 matches against Nadal, that is a fact. You are making excuses of surfaces now?
How many slam titles for Federer in 2008?
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Nadal is only overrated by the most obnoxious...
Federer is the one turning around rivalry with Nadal, in his favor.
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ROTFL!!!! So posting a win over a guy who is barely a 20 player and who is 29-19 on the ATP tour since Dubai is supposed to be some awesome win for the World #2.
Good for himI could go on.
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drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
You mean, kind of the same way people on these boards post that only certain players should be using certain frames. Overboard like that??
Can you not see the inconsistency in your above points? If you're not comparing Nadal to Federer, then why does Federer have to beat Nadal at RG?
You're not fighting with logic.
Either:
The H2H matters, in which case I fail to see why it matters where Fed beats Nadal or vice-versa, especially while Nadal continues to be a clay-court-specialist winning little anywhere else.
The H2H doesn't matter, in which case surely you're just wanting to see Fed win RG, and in that case who cares who it's against. Nadal may never make another RG final, Fed may win the next 5, and yet you'd seek issue if he never beat specifically Nadal at RG? I don't get this either, personally.
whistleway
Semi-Pro
If you have reading comprehension, you would know that I meant that in the context of Wimbledon.
Whatever. This is my last post.
I fail to see how your entire post was written "in the context of Wimbledon".
For the record, "I have reading comprehension", in fact I also have enough writing ability to know that I'd never write a sentence as poorly constructed as "If you have reading comprehension".
Now run away back to your blog, thanks for coming....
Yes, but at least they are trying to help, I don't see why people can't admit the K90 is for more advanced players. You on the other hand are just trying to antagonize.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
How is one trying to help when they are posting absolute myths, and outright lies?
I agree with Drak on many things, but I agree with you entirely on the above.
The k90 is a frame that should only be used by advanced players in the context of the modern game, and my thinking on this extends to any small-headed heavy small-sweet-spotted frame.
I wouldn't read too much into this "Closing Gap." Nadal doesn't appear to be 100% right now with his knee issues. He may just be better off taking some time off to get healthy. Because I think it's obvious when he's moving really well, he'll definitely give Federer problems.
All I can deuce from your views, is that there is no H2H between Nadal & Federer unless Federer beats Nadal at the FO. else What kind of carp is that?
Nadal_Freak
Banned
It's pretty simple though. Nadal wins on the slow surfaces and Fed wins on the fast surfaces. I would like to see more matches on slow hardcourts or fast clay. As of now they only meet on extreme surfaces.
cknobman
Legend
The masters was the slowest hardcourt of the year and Nadal still got spanked.
Nadal like Borg is just not a great hardcourt player. Both Nadal and Borg were very good clay courters and grass courters. Borg never could win the USO and that is Nadals worst grandslam. Its as simple is that.
Its tough to win hardcoirts with huge topspin as Borg and Nadal. What is all the mystery about???? Hard courts are Nadals & Borgs worst surface.
Federer is superior to Nadal on hard courts and Nadal is superior to Fed on clay. Fed has a slight edge on grass.
How is what OrangeOne said a lie? If anything it's an opinion, one that should be accepted by most.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
I agree >>>> it's an opinion, which is not the same as "FACT". For example, what you posted, which I responded to is a lie/myth. Here is your post:
You wrote this as it is "truth/fact", which it is not. It is a lie/myth, which is why people will never admit that. At most, it is an "OPINION". However, **YOU** did not write it as opinion
cknobman
Legend
No mystery to me I was simply responding to this post:
Originally Posted by Nadal_Freak
It's pretty simple though. Nadal wins on the slow surfaces and Fed wins on the fast surfaces. I would like to see more matches on slow hardcourts or fast clay. As of now they only meet on extreme surfaces.
Are you another Nadal troll?
WTF is real clay? I can also say that Wimbledon these days are not real grass and that is the reason why Nadal can get 2 finals.
Well, that´s what many people here said in the last 2 years and also that Queen´s was the only real grass tournament.
However, nobody else said that Hamburg wasn´t real clay even if the conditions are different than in the FO. See the difference between trolling and not trolling.
Maestro Nalbandian
Professional
+1. K90 is harder to use than most Prince and Babolat pro racquets IMO but its not necessarily for more advanced players. More so depends on the style of play and physical build of a player.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Yeah man. The ball doesn't jump up on Hamburg clay like it does at the French Open.
Troll alert!
cuddles26
Banned
Definitely wont ever happen on hard courts. The best we can hope for is for it to keep happening on both clay and grass. Even that I am not sure, Nadal reaching another Wimbledon final seems far fetched.
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