Not sure about retired per se but a great younger gen would have stopped them more often.If Dimitrov was as good as a young Federer and Thiem was as good as a young Nadal then Djokovic as well as Fedal would have been retired by 2017.
So many cheap slams from 2017-2021 because of the lack in talent, mindset of these millennial punks
No I believe Federer was still a ATG from 2008 to 2012.10 years after AO 2011 Djokovic is still awesome
While Fed fans have to neglect everything Fed did after 2007![]()
Was he peak?No I believe Federer was still a ATG from 2008 to 2012.
shhh only Fed gets to play hopscotch with prime/peak/super saiyan form in his matchesIn many of those matches Djokovic's form wasn't really prime.
If he won, yesWas he peak?
On a consistent basis no but in a some events yes in my opinion.Was he peak?
Yeah I know you want to believe Federer peaks forever
No, just for 4 years. ShortestPeakererYeah I know you want to believe Federer peaks forever![]()
Yeah just like Djokovic 2011-2012 / late 2014-mid 2016 and Nadal on and off more surface depending so it’s all a similar timeframe for all 3.No, just for 4 years. ShortestPeakerer![]()
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I haven't seen a single prominent Novak fan dismiss Murray's wins over him in slams though. Unlike Fedr who always has a reason why he loses...Yeah just like Djokovic 2011-2012 / late 2014-mid 2016 and Nadal on and off more surface depending so it’s all a similar timeframe for all 3.
Well in my case I said Federer was still a ATG in 2008-2012. Some other Federer fans maybe yes.I haven't seen a single prominent Novak fan dismiss Murray's wins over him in slams though. Unlike Fedr who always has a reason why he loses...![]()
An ATG never loses their status...No one says Amun-Ra-Assi is not an ATG for example. Just that he was nowhere near prime in the 05 USO final against FedWell in my case I said Federer was still a ATG in 2008-2012. Some other Federer fans maybe yes.
Agassi was not at his best in the USO 2005 F no. But he played well still for much of the first 3 sets. When I said ATG I meant by career even if you left out 04-07.An ATG never loses their status...No one says Amun-Ra-Assi is not an ATG for example. Just that he was nowhere near prime in the 05 USO final against Fed
Considering the 2004 loss in question was on clay, does this really matter in the context of OP?guga is too clay skewed to be an atg
f1ck, i've already forgot about this thread and what's this all about, af if it did happen at that phase of the universe before big bangConsidering the 2004 loss in question was on clay, does this really matter in the context of OP?
That wont hold up if Djoker sticks around for a few more years.Win percentage vs non-Big3:
Djokovic 90.6%
Federer 90.3%
Not only is it not true that Fed is superior in consistency to Nole, Nole is in fact a bit better in this area than him.
you mean to say Djokovic only wins when he doesn't lose?
If...if...if...That wont hold up if Djoker sticks around for a few more years.