Federer losses in slams at prime vs Djokovic losses in slams at prime - against non ATGs

[Sunny014]

If Dimitrov was as good as a young Federer and Thiem was as good as a young Nadal then Djokovic as well as Fedal would have been retired by 2017.

So many cheap slams from 2017-2021 because of the lack in talent, mindset of these millennial punks

 

[ElisRF]

If Dimitrov was as good as a young Federer and Thiem was as good as a young Nadal then Djokovic as well as Fedal would have been retired by 2017.

So many cheap slams from 2017-2021 because of the lack in talent, mindset of these millennial punks

Not sure about retired per se but a great younger gen would have stopped them more often.

 

[ElisRF]

10 years after AO 2011 Djokovic is still awesome

While Fed fans have to neglect everything Fed did after 2007

No I believe Federer was still a ATG from 2008 to 2012.

 

[Lew II]

No I believe Federer was still a ATG from 2008 to 2012.

Was he peak?

 

[PETEhammer]

In many of those matches Djokovic's form wasn't really prime.

shhh only Fed gets to play hopscotch with prime/peak/super saiyan form in his matches

 

[PETEhammer]

Was he peak?

If he won, yes

 

[ElisRF]

Was he peak?

On a consistent basis no but in a some events yes in my opinion.

 

[PETEhammer]

On a consistent basis no but in a some events yes in my opinion.

What did I say, @Lew II ?

 

[ElisRF]

What did I say, @Lew II ?

Yeah I know you want to believe Federer peaks forever

 

[PETEhammer]

Yeah I know you want to believe Federer peaks forever

No, just for 4 years. ShortestPeakerer

 

[ElisRF]

No, just for 4 years. ShortestPeakerer

Yeah just like Djokovic 2011-2012 / late 2014-mid 2016 and Nadal on and off more surface depending so it’s all a similar timeframe for all 3.

 

[PETEhammer]

Yeah just like Djokovic 2011-2012 / late 2014-mid 2016 and Nadal on and off more surface depending so it’s all a similar timeframe for all 3.

I haven't seen a single prominent Novak fan dismiss Murray's wins over him in slams though. Unlike Fedr who always has a reason why he loses...

 

[ElisRF]

I haven't seen a single prominent Novak fan dismiss Murray's wins over him in slams though. Unlike Fedr who always has a reason why he loses...

Well in my case I said Federer was still a ATG in 2008-2012. Some other Federer fans maybe yes.

 

[PETEhammer]

Well in my case I said Federer was still a ATG in 2008-2012. Some other Federer fans maybe yes.

An ATG never loses their status...No one says Amun-Ra-Assi is not an ATG for example. Just that he was nowhere near prime in the 05 USO final against Fed

 

[ElisRF]

An ATG never loses their status...No one says Amun-Ra-Assi is not an ATG for example. Just that he was nowhere near prime in the 05 USO final against Fed

Agassi was not at his best in the USO 2005 F no. But he played well still for much of the first 3 sets. When I said ATG I meant by career even if you left out 04-07.

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

guga is too clay skewed to be an atg

Considering the 2004 loss in question was on clay, does this really matter in the context of OP?

 

[alexio]

Considering the 2004 loss in question was on clay, does this really matter in the context of OP?

f1ck, i've already forgot about this thread and what's this all about, af if it did happen at that phase of the universe before big bang

 

[PETEhammer]

Win percentage vs non-Big3:

Djokovic 90.6%
Federer 90.3%

Not only is it not true that Fed is superior in consistency to Nole, Nole is in fact a bit better in this area than him.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Win percentage vs non-Big3:

Djokovic 90.6%
Federer 90.3%

Not only is it not true that Fed is superior in consistency to Nole, Nole is in fact a bit better in this area than him.

That wont hold up if Djoker sticks around for a few more years.

 

[Third Serve]

Just how many threads has OP made over the last couple of months lol

 

[WildRevolver]

you mean to say Djokovic only wins when he doesn't lose?

Nailed it. And this mindset isn't exclusive to None fans. Rafa and Fed fans do it too. It's so weird. Like a loss doesn't matter if the player isn't in God Mode when they lose.

 

[PETEhammer]

That wont hold up if Djoker sticks around for a few more years.

If...if...if...