Federer: Murray's second serve "not SoBad"
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Fedinkum
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Wait a second...Fed was asked about "would he attack Murray's 2nd serve", and he commented tactfully by saying "Murray had beaten him before with that second serve, so it can't be that bad.". As usual, the journalist took words out of context and made an attention grabbing story headline. What is so arrogant about that?
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Sure he does. Because as Federer said, he covers it well. He's a lot more talented than both Isner and Karlovic in other facets of the game. Not to mention that those guys are horrible returners. That doesn't mean that Murray 2nd serve is great or "not so bad" just because he's perfect against Isner and Karlovic. It's gotten him in bundles of trouble against guys like Djokovic, Federer, and Nadal before though, wouldn't you agree? Maybe with a better 2nd serve he still has a winning record against Federer.
Even as a fan, you should be able to admit that Murray's 2nd serve could be better. Perhaps even a lot better. You know that's true. Don't argue with me for the sake of arguing.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
to be fair, he said that right after murray said: Federer's backhand is not "Sureshs".
Not sure why this caused a storm. Murray's 2nd serve is not as good as most top 20 pros. Murray frequently hits 2nd serves around 82 mph and averages low to mid 80s. His serve also doesn't look like it has vicious movement on it like Nadal's does at times. Federer, Djokovic, Warinka and most other top 10 ATP players average 10 to 15 mph more than Murray and have more movement. Murray gets away with the relatively weaker 2nd serve because he plays so well behind it. I think this is accurate information and not sure what caused all the fuss. Murray's 2nd serve cost him the 2009 match vs Roddick at Wimbledon as Roddick was actually returning well that year and crushed a few of Murray's 2nd serves at key points in the match. If Murray had a better 2nd serve, there is no way Roddick would have won that match.
You may not win because of your 2nd serve but you can definitely lose because your 2nd serve is the same as a 4.0 player.
Because his ground game is excellent and he can get back to neutral most of the time.
smoledman
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smoledman
G.O.A.T.
The Trollerer at it YET AGAIN. What's wrong with his left hand anyway, spasms??
He's hoping that the puny left arm distracts Murray long enough to win.
West Coast Ace
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Steve, don't bother - @Inanimate_object just proved he doesn't play tennis at all and has no clue what's going on.
I'm sure Murray would - privately - admit his 2nd serve is ****.
Inanimate_object
Hall of Fame
I never said Murray's serve wasn't substandard. Perhaps you aught to read more carefully.
