Federer never recovered after 2017

Not getting YE1 in 2017 seems to have acceleratrd the downfall of Federer as since then he has only on one Major and suffered a string of huge disappointments.

Will be interesting to see how much not getting YE1 this year affects Djokovic or Nadal going forward.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Federer has won only on one Major and suffered a string of huge disappointments.
Can you name another player who won a major at age 36? (Hint: there’s only been one other aside from Fed). It’s hilarious that you imply that winning “only one major” at age 36 is indicative of poor or pathetic play.
 

Yugram

Hall of Fame
Yeah was on a 17 match win streak before that, then everything went downhill.
I’d say Federer wasn’t at his 2017 level already at the start of 2018, just got kind of lucky with opponents at the AO and with terrible choking from Coric in IW, so hard to say if Del Potro match was the beginning of "downhill" or already a part of a tendency. Requires deeper analysis, maybe some stats could help.
 

Third Serve

Hall of Fame
Maybe he just got a little older. 38 is quite a while off from 35, in fact. It's funny that Federer declining even further is considered a big event when the average player should be sitting in retirement at this point.
 
Can you name another player who won a major at age 36? (Hint: there’s only been one other aside from Fed). It’s hilarious that you imply that winning “only one major” at age 36 is indicative of poor or pathetic play.
36 is not old in 2019. These age excuses are pathetic and im afraid disingenuous as i didnt hear anyone say Nadal at 33 was disadvantaged v Thiem and Medvedev in two Major finals.
 

Fedforever

Hall of Fame
Not getting YE1 in 2017 seems to have acceleratrd the downfall of Federer as since then he has only on one Major and suffered a string of huge disappointments.
This is factually wrong. After the end of 2017 he won a Grand Slam, got back to No 1, won a Masters 1000, reached a Grand Slam semi and then a Grand Slam Final. There has not been an "accelerated downfall" since the first half of 2019 was better than the latter half of 2018.
 
This is factually wrong. After the end of 2017 he won a Grand Slam, got back to No 1, won a Masters 1000, reached a Grand Slam semi and then a Grand Slam Final. There has not been an "accelerated downfall" since the first half of 2019 was better than the latter half of 2018.
Didnt stay no.1 for YE1 which is what matters and one slam in 3 years for one of the greatest of all time is poor
 

TearTheRoofOff

Hall of Fame
It's funny how everyone seems to pick a different turning point or match which began an irreversible spiral into the depths of perpetual failure. The reason for this is that there are so many absolute disasters in recent years to choose from that there's no consensus. Seriously, the list is so tragic even Shakespeare couldn't top it.
 

SaintPetros

Hall of Fame
It's funny how everyone seems to pick a different turning point or match which began an irreversible spiral into the depths of perpetual failure. The reason for this is that there are so many absolute disasters in recent years to choose from that there's no consensus. Seriously, the list is so tragic even Shakespeare couldn't top it.
True but I think Wimbledonerer 2019 tops even his impressive list of Blanksmanship.
 

Fedforever

Hall of Fame
Didnt stay no.1 for YE1 which is what matters and one slam in 3 years for one of the greatest of all time is poor
You said there was an "accelerated downfall" after 2017. That suggests continuous decline which there hasn't been although there have been ups and downs. And one slam, A Masters and a GS Final is pretty damn good for anyone, let alone someone in their late thirties.
 

clout

Hall of Fame
In hindsight, 2017 shouldnt have even happened. He was 36 coming off a knee injury that sidelined him for 6 months and hadn’t won a major in 5 years (only won 1 major in the last 7 years). Be grateful for what the big 3 have been able to do in terms of remaining elite, technically speaking, they should’ve stopped winning years ago.
 
I’d say Federer wasn’t at his 2017 level already at the start of 2018, just got kind of lucky with opponents at the AO and with terrible choking from Coric in IW, so hard to say if Del Potro match was the beginning of "downhill" or already a part of a tendency. Requires deeper analysis, maybe some stats could help.
Yes, I thought when he won somehow against Cilic that he is never going to win a Slam again. I was (almost) wrong. He had two championship points on Djokovic and he would have actually beaten both Djoker and Nadal back to back had he seen it through. So I am still optimistic about his chances for at the most a year or two IF he can stay fit and fresh. More than his fitness, it seems like he gets mentally fatigued of tennis these days and just has to go cold after a week at most of tennis.
 
I’d say Del Potro match in Indian Wells was the point from where Federer was never the same somehow.
For the First time I can agree with you.
He didn't remain fearless, agressive and keep his shots clean afterwards, 2017-Feb18 "Going for broke" roger disappeared
 
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