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zagor

Bionic Poster
I don't wanna read negative vibes about Fed's chances here, Fed knows the importance of this GS and I'm sure he'll bring something special to the court the next few days. I really believe in him.
He can't get enough free points from his serve on this ridiculous court. It's hard to see him keep up the intensity from the baseline over 5 sets neccesarry to get past Nadal in the semis (and likely Novak in the final).

There's belief and there's reality. Unless you have a monster serve, Wimbledon is a baseline slugfest now.
 

Otacon

Hall of Fame
He can't get enough free points from his serve on this ridiculous court. It's hard to see him keep up the intensity from the baseline over 5 sets neccesarry to get past Nadal in the semis (and likely Novak in the final).

There's belief and there's reality. Unless you have a monster serve, Wimbledon is a baseline slugfest now.
I know all of that, but we're talking about Roger. The most talented tennis player ever. He'll figure it out.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
He needs to have his azz, head and legs in the game from the moment he steps on the court v. Nadal on Friday though. None of this crap.
The positive thing about today is that Fed really concentrated well. He had no mental lapses at all and seemed unusually focused on every ball. He will need that (and a lot more) on Friday. I just don't see how he suddenly regains a magical topspin BH in 2 days, and he'll need it, since Rafa eats up slice and kicks it back with interest.
 

MeatTornado

G.O.A.T.
So its happening. I for one am more nervous than enthusiastic. Is it too much to ask of a 37 year old to go all the way. I wasn't too optimistic before the AO 2017 final either. But not sure if lightning can strike twice. Add to the fact that the slower courts impede Federer's overall game. Will take a win somehow. Lets see.
Rafa's playing better and with more confidence than he was at AO 17 too.
 

MasturB

Legend
Rafa has played tremendously at Wimby the last two years. He held off a GOATing Del Po in the Quarters and just barely lost to Novak in semis.

I think Fed fans should be worried because Rafa is playing well, hasn't lost in almost 2 months. Yes this is Fed's court, but not like Rafa is a slouch on grass lately.
 

MeatTornado

G.O.A.T.
Is it weird that this feels way more important than a final would against Djokovic? It just seems like Federer has so much to lose in this match.
100%

Novak's the dominant player and 4 time Wimby champ. Combined with the 2014-15 losses, Roger is expected to lose that match. But we've been talking a big game for so many years about Rafa avoiding his losses to Fed on grass, that it feels like Roger HAS to capitalize now to back that up. An even H2H on grass does not look good at the end of the day.
 

Martin J

Professional
Rafa has played tremendously at Wimby the last two years. He held off a GOATing Del Po in the Quarters and just barely lost to Novak in semis.

I think Fed fans should be worried because Rafa is playing well, hasn't lost in almost 2 months. Yes this is Fed's court, but not like Rafa is a slouch on grass lately.
Goating Delpo with no backhand? 2012/2013 was goating Delpo on grass, but not the one from last year.
 
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Ann

Hall of Fame
:rolleyes:

Oh will you guys stop listening to the 12 year old trolls out 'there'.

H2H means less than $hite.

Federer's legendary status is ALREADY SET IN CONCRETE, nothing that happens tomorrow, the next day or the next 5 years is going to change that.

You're FedFans, you're not permitted to act like the know-nothings that inhabit the rest of the board.

JESUS a 104 year old man just made the SF of Wimbledon, this alone adds another piece to the legend of Federer. Win or Lose the man IS A LEGEND.
 

ghostofMecir

Hall of Fame
At least big Sam is picking Roger to win Wimbledon! :)

Federer was a betting favorite over Nadal before the tournament, but Nadal has opened up a slight favorite before this match. The age difference (a 38 year old shouldnt even be in back to back SFs let alone a favorite in one), the RG match (though it wasn’t that bad considering conditions and how well the BH held up),
how well Nadal is serving and returning, and how slow Centre Court is playing all add up to why Nadal’s being favored. It will be interesting to see how the line moves, but I’m thinking Nadal will become a more solid favorite before the match.

Nadal is playing with ultra confidence right now, serving really well and returning well with the BH, typically a weakness, especially on grass. Centre Court is playing the slowest I’ve ever seen it, so looks like easy points on serve will be a problem. Federer has defended his serve extremely well, but he’s not getting as many free points as he’s used to. Nishikori is a good returner, but he had difficulty against the other players as well relative to what he usually gets.

It’s going to be really, really, really tough for Federer to win this. It’s beyond asinine that he gets “punished” in these GOAT narratives for being good enough to get to back to back SFs while Nadal spent 2012-2017 losing to everyone at Wimbledon.
 
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MeatTornado

G.O.A.T.
:rolleyes:

Oh will you guys stop listening to the 12 year old trolls out 'there'.

H2H means less than $hite.

Federer's legendary status is ALREADY SET IN CONCRETE, nothing that happens tomorrow, the next day or the next 5 years is going to change that.

You're FedFans, you're not permitted to act like the know-nothings that inhabit the rest of the board.

JESUS a 104 year old man just made the SF of Wimbledon, this alone adds another piece to the legend of Federer. Win or Lose the man IS A LEGEND.
His legendary status is in concrete. But his GOAT status is not. Let's not pretend otherwise.

The same things were said years ago. But imagine if he retired after his 2016 injury with 17 slams. Rafa would've already gone on to pass him in the slam count, become world #1 at an older age and set a host of new records, leaving Fed in the dust. 2017-18 proved that he needs to stay vigilant and keep adding to his own resume or he'll be surpassed. Novak wouldn't be far behind and there's a good chance Federer would go on to be an afterthought of this era, no matter how much we love him. His legacy would be irrevocably altered for the worse.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
It’s going to be really, really, really tough for Federer to win this. It’s beyond asinine thet he gets “punished” in these GOAT narratives for being good enough to get to back to back SFs while Nadal spent 2012-2017 losing to everyone at Wimbledon.
I agree with everything you said. And for those H2H nuts out there, they never bother to explain Nadal simply wasn't good enough on HC to meet Fed in countless majors at the USO and AO since 2005. When Fed showed up in those major finals (except AO 2009), Nadal wasn't good enough to be in the final. he was either "injured" or lost in earlier rounds. While Roger made 5 FO finals, thus skewing the H2H even more. He was great enough to meet Nadal in endless clay finals, Nadal was not good enough to meet Fed in major finals on HC's most of the time.

If Fed plays until he's 42, he will almost certainly lose 90%+ of the matches he will ever play again against either Nole or Rafa because of the age differential. Which happens to be another reason H2H's are meaningless.
 

Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
When Rafa won today my first thoughts were...


And my reaction was not positive at all. But as a Fed fan I have accepted his age and that he is not playing at the same level he was even a year and a half ago.

I see this turning out like AO17 but without the 5th set comeback due to his age, Rafa's current level, the slower court than AO.

Feds level fluctuates too much these days. However, if he loses I am okay with it... maybe not okay, but let's be honest. Fed has provided us with so much joy, anything from here only helps his legacy and can not hurt it.

With this in mind...


Okay, maybe that's just me and my FBPD which will be at peak come Friday.
 

Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
I agree with everything you said. And for those H2H nuts out there, they never bother to explain Nadal simply wasn't good enough on HC to meet Fed in countless majors at the USO and AO since 2005. When Fed showed up in those major finals (except AO 2009), Nadal wasn't good enough to be in the final. he was either "injured" or lost in earlier rounds. While Roger made 5 FO finals, thus skewing the H2H even more. He was great enough to meet Nadal in endless clay finals, Nadal was not good enough to meet Fed in major finals on HC's most of the time.

If Fed plays until he's 42, he will almost certainly lose 90%+ of the matches he will ever play again against either Nole or Rafa because of the age differential. Which happens to be another reason H2H's are meaningless.
Yep, those h2h psychos, they are weird.
 
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