Federer News

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
This is correct. Even if Fed gets to #2, I am pretty sure Nadal ends in Fed's half. Its pretty obvious by now.

If Fed is #3, he gets Djoko in the SF. The storyline for the first Fedal USO final will be huuuuge.
I need statistics of the number of times there was an opportunity for Nadal-Djoker to meet in semis or be in the same half by virtue of seeding (i.e they weren't #1 and #2 or #3 and #4) but they did not and instead one of them landed in Fed's half. What is it 99% ?
 

Pheasant

Hall of Fame
Ok. I am over Fed’s epic loss now. My mind is finally clear. It took 3 days of grinding away at work to get this loss out of my mind . My takeaway from 2019 Wimbledon is that Fed is in pretty decent form for a guy that turns 38 in a few weeks. He scored 9 more points than Nadal and 14 more points than Djoker(7-3 edge in service breaks over Djoker is amazing).

Hopefully, Fed can reverse this trend of losing tiebreakers to Djokovic, since Fed has now lost 5 straight tiebreakers to him.

Barring extreme heat and humidity, I think Fed can make it to the semis at the USO. He’s playing quite well.

It’s great to see Federer playing well. His game is by far the most exquisite on the tour.

Let’s bring on Cinci. I am ready. Go Fed!
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
Ok. I am over Fed’s epic loss now. My mind is finally clear. It took 3 days of grinding away at work to get this loss out of my mind . My takeaway from 2019 Wimbledon is that Fed is in pretty decent form for a guy that turns 38 in a few weeks. He scored 9 more points than Nadal and 14 more points than Djoker(7-3 edge in service breaks over Djoker is amazing).

Hopefully, Fed can reverse this trend of losing tiebreakers to Djokovic, since Fed has now lost 5 straight tiebreakers to him.

Barring extreme heat and humidity, I think Fed can make it to the semis at the USO. He’s playing quite well.

It’s great to see Federer playing well. His game is by far the most exquisite on the tour.

Let’s bring on Cinci. I am ready. Go Fed!
I'd rather see him break the trend of getting to 6/6 in the first set. At least 7/5, take the first set, then run with it. He's best as a frontrunner. There is always a huge advantage to the man who wins the first set.
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
I do wonder if nadal or Djokovic do end up passing fed on grand slams, would federer still be such a widely acclaimed goat and overall sports personality, or not, particularly amongst the next generation
I don't know what future generations will think based on whatever the others end up having vs what Federer has, but every period in tennis has one player that is bigger than all the rest, and for the time when he played that player is Federer.

:cool:
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Lawl, Trollander strikes again.

Djokodal are not tactical masters, they just have higher shot tolerance from the baseline which plays dividends on slower surfaces (ie. most of the tour today). Nadal in particular has probably the least variance in his game compared to any ATG. If's why he lost 6 out of the last 7 matches against Fed in his deep 30s when his FH-BH pattern is longer as effective.

Also, this myth that Fed roflstomped the sea of mugs, chokers and toddlers in 2004-2007 is getting tiresome at this point. Fed has had plenty of close matches in 2004-2007, he just happened to have won most of them as it usually happens when an ATG is at his peak.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
I thought the concept would be great. One could also add other tight matches (W08, AO09, USO09 and etc) and Linkin Park - In the End in the background.
In comparison suddenly uso09 does not seem so bad in terms of missed chances and first 4 sets of AO 2009 are good. I dont mess with Wimbledon 2008, that match still hurts and I will forever say that Match was drama over quality, fed was lucky to push it to a 5th and it should have been called for darkness
 

Ann

Hall of Fame
I do wonder if nadal or Djokovic do end up passing fed on grand slams, would federer still be such a widely acclaimed goat and overall sports personality, or not, particularly amongst the next generation
Yeah because no one remembers a player if they don't have the slam count. The slam count is the only thing that matters. I mean DAMN I see Margaret Court is GOD tweets every day on twitter.

perspective
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
I do wonder if nadal or Djokovic do end up passing fed on grand slams, would federer still be such a widely acclaimed goat and overall sports personality, or not, particularly amongst the next generation
No one will forget Fed, there's a reason the guy has such massive fan support even compared to his rivals/other stars.

However in terms of style of play IMO Fed will have minimal influence on the next generation. His game formed in an era where you still had a variety of conditions in tennis and then he had to adapt more and more to gradual slow down of the surfaces. His game is a mix of old and new and as such not seen as optimal for the modern game.

You can already see how the current young gen copied Novak with often hilarious results as they lack his athleticism and have a different build. Just look at Zverev for example.
 

Ann

Hall of Fame
The game is going to continue to morph into nothing but serve bots and baseline bashers. Winners will become extinct, unforced errors will be the only stat that counts. And tennis will decline in popularity until Wimbledon can be held in a high school gymnasium and you have to read about it on twitter.
 

TheIntrovert

Hall of Fame
Yeah because no one remembers a player if they don't have the slam count. The slam count is the only thing that matters. I mean DAMN I see Margaret Court is GOD tweets every day on twitter.

perspective
No one will forget Fed, there's a reason the guy has such massive fan support even compared to his rivals/other stars.

However in terms of style of play IMO Fed will have minimal influence on the next generation. His game formed in an era where you still had a variety of conditions in tennis and then he had to adapt more and more to gradual slow down of the surfaces. His game is a mix of old and new and as such not seen as optimal for the modern game.

You can already see how the current young gen copied Novak with often hilarious results as they lack his athleticism and have a different build. Just look at Zverev for example.
Well I didn’t mean forget. I just meant that would he still be as widely celebrated. He’s One of most popular and marketable athletes in the world. Ask anyone about tennis and chances are, they’ll mention federer. Novak seems to be set to pass the weeks at number 1 record and if he were to pass the slam record as well, would some of the general public switch to the Djokovic bandwagon, as most are probably glory hunters, particularly after this recent final, which a lot of people on social media are claiming to be one of the greatest matches they’ve seen.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
No one will forget Fed, there's a reason the guy has such massive fan support even compared to his rivals/other stars.

However in terms of style of play IMO Fed will have minimal influence on the next generation. His game formed in an era where you still had a variety of conditions in tennis and then he had to adapt more and more to gradual slow down of the surfaces. His game is a mix of old and new and as such not seen as optimal for the modern game.

You can already see how the current young gen copied Novak with often hilarious results as they lack his athleticism and have a different build. Just look at Zverev for example.
that's true but you still have a lot of younger players who do look up to him and talk about how he's a favorite and who knows maybe we will see someone down the road who wants to try and replicate fed, even though it will be more difficult.
 

Ann

Hall of Fame
The scenario is somewhat odd as they are bound to finish their careers in very close years. Even if one of the other two finishes ahead of Federer in the stats, he won't be able to build up a NEW following out of it during the rest of his career, and the general public will move on to the actual players. Who are those that will change the current status quo? I don't see them. The glory hunters tend to not live in the past, but cling to those that bring the benefits immediately, which won't happen by referring to the old generations.

:cool:
Agreed.

Look at Djokovic's fans here. Very few of them have any understanding or appreciation of the game and are only his "fans" because he's number 1. Djoker will be forgotten the minute he slips out of the #1 spot.
 

fedfan08

Semi-Pro
Federer has his training block in Dubai in December, not in preparation for the USO in August/September. And Dubai doesn't have humidity issues.
Yes it does. Right now in Dubai It’s 98F with a dewpoint of 83F which produces a heat index of 124F. Basically you can’t be outside. Players who have trained with Roger in Dubai have told stories of ringing the water out of their shoes because it’s so humid. I don’t think it’s that bad in December but Roger has trained there in the summer in the past. If he doesn’t now it’s probably more because his kids are older and have more activities going on back home.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
I wanted to mention something that has been happening in the Fed News Forum, and that's the increasing presence of trolls and non-Fed fans here, trying to stir the pot. Some may not be aware of this, but this Forum is restricted to Fed fans, news of Fed or positive stuff about Roger. I never see trolls invade either the Rafa or Nole News Threads. On the rare occasions I post there, it's always something positive or else it's legitimate news.

On the first page of this sub-forum, the rules are listed:



No trolling and worship responsibly. I have been reporting the trolls here and their posts have been removed. There's plenty of other places on TTW where these people can get their jollies. The rules here are the rules and have been for many years.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
Well I didn’t mean forget. I just meant that would he still be as widely celebrated. He’s One of most popular and marketable athletes in the world. Ask anyone about tennis and chances are, they’ll mention federer. Novak seems to be set to pass the weeks at number 1 record and if he were to pass the slam record as well, would some of the general public switch to the Djokovic bandwagon, as most are probably glory hunters, particularly after this recent final, which a lot of people on social media are claiming to be one of the greatest matches they’ve seen.
i dont want to say that those who are novak or even nadal fans are disingenuous, I'm sure there are plenty who like them, however I do get a sense that a lot of people chose their favorites based on fed or those who were tired of him
 

NastyWinners

Professional
Very different weather conditions though.

Fed had to go on oxygen after the Millman loss last year.
That was an anomaly for Fed, it's rare to see him so physically taxed out.

However, Miami conditions can be quite brutal even in March/April, the average humidity then is nearing 70%, whereas NYC is averaging near 60-65% in the Aug/Sep time-frame. The biggest key is BO5 format which someone else mentioned previously.
 

fedfan08

Semi-Pro
Fed has not done a training block ever in Dubai in the months of June-September.
That is probably true because he’s usually playing during those months. But you said Dubai doesn’t have humidity issues. It absolutely does. And I remember a practice partner of Roger’s once saying they had to take breaks so he could wring the water out of his shoes. I’ll try and find the link. I think Roger has also said training in Dubai prepares him for the US summer (it can be very humid in Cincy). But obviously no one is going to be practicing when it’s that humid and the heat index is in the triple digits.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
According to the ATP site he's playing the week before that in Montreal starting August 5th.. granted he hasn't won it since 2006... and then on to Cincinnati. Or did you guys hear that he has pulled out of the Coupe Rogers?
Fed is not playing Montreal, he addressed this in his post-Wimbledon presser:

“Looking ahead, we had decided in the team that I was to skip Montreal a week ago to give my self enough time. I wish I had more (time) but I don’t so i’m just going to take enough time off when I can and then prepare for Cincinnati."
 

Ann

Hall of Fame
Fed is not playing Montreal, he addressed this in his post-Wimbledon presser:

“Looking ahead, we had decided in the team that I was to skip Montreal a week ago to give my self enough time. I wish I had more (time) but I don’t so i’m just going to take enough time off when I can and then prepare for Cincinnati."
Thanks, I don't watch pressers. They bore the snot out of me.
 
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