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Breakpointerer

Breakpointerer

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MeatTornado said:
It's been impossible for me to not think about it while sitting in relative silence at work staring into spreadsheets with nothing to distract me.
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Yeah, thankfully I've managed to keep myself busy and my mind on other things for the most part to get over it quickly.
One thing for sure, I won't be watching highlights of that match or reading articles about it, at least not for a long time.
 
Sartorius

Sartorius

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Pheasant said:
Barring extreme heat and humidity, I think Fed can make it to the semis at the USO. He’s playing quite well.
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Fed can absolutely win USO. He's shown he still has the game, and the legs.

It will of course be interesting to see how his mind reacts to the loss at Wimbledon. Wouldn't it be fun if it happened like the last time he lost such an encounter, say, 2008? That USO is one of his most impressive wins in my book. Also remember, one of Fed's best and most significant runs in his career came after a similar defeat - after USO 2011; didn't lose a match rest of that year and made it to a W at Wimbly and to No. 1 in the next.

Trouble is of course it gets less and less likely as time passes. Better not expect anything and just hope for a healthy finish to the season.
 
AceSalvo

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Sartorius said:
Fed can absolutely win USO. He's shown he still has the game, and the legs.

It will of course be interesting to see how his mind reacts to the loss at Wimbledon. Wouldn't it be fun if it happened like the last time he lost such an encounter, say, 2008? That USO is one of his most impressive wins in my book. Also remember, one of Fed's best and most significant runs in his career came after a similar defeat - after USO 2011; didn't lose a match rest of that year and made it to a W at Wimbly and to No. 1 in the next.

Trouble is of course it gets less and less likely as time passes. Better not expect anything and just hope for a healthy finish to the season.
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Djoko was actually very lucky with how his draw panned out. If he had to play FAA, Medvedev, Raonic/Zverev back to back I think he would lost more steam before the finals.

Hope some of these Next Gen actually show up for USO19. Problem is they could somehow show up in Fed’s half and play a blinder against him and it’s all over. Still all fingers crossed.
 
MeatTornado

MeatTornado

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Sartorius said:
Fed can absolutely win USO. He's shown he still has the game, and the legs.

It will of course be interesting to see how his mind reacts to the loss at Wimbledon. Wouldn't it be fun if it happened like the last time he lost such an encounter, say, 2008? That USO is one of his most impressive wins in my book. Also remember, one of Fed's best and most significant runs in his career came after a similar defeat - after USO 2011; didn't lose a match rest of that year and made it to a W at Wimbly and to No. 1 in the next.

Trouble is of course it gets less and less likely as time passes. Better not expect anything and just hope for a healthy finish to the season.
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Unfortunately, I genuinely don't believe he can beat Novak in NY. I think we're back to 2015, if not worse. The crushing blows at Wimbledon in 14-15 are what prevented him from winning the USO in 15, as shown in 4/23.

Now after the most crushing Wimbledon loss of his life, I don't see how he recovers mentally. I also can't see anyone upsetting Novak early after watching that performance on Sunday. These kids are already scared of him, and after seeing him unphased and defending championship points against Federer of all people, no one is going to believe they can beat him. Best hope is Fed grabbing the 2 seed and Nadal having a great tournament, taking him out in the SF.
 
TheSixthSense

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Otacon said:
It still hurts a lot. I've never experienced something like this. I'm on vacation with my family in a beautiful place, but I'm not enjoying myself. I don't know what to do.
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Don't be so invested.

Federer will recover from this. I am sure fans are capable of it too. At the end of the day, he has given us way more happy moments and tennis exhibitions than disappointing outcomes like last Sunday. Even this Wimbledon, it was wonderful watching him still playing quality tennis against guys much younger than him. We have to appreciate his moments now more than ever as his career is close to ending...

 
Ann

Ann

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Otacon said:
It still hurts a lot. I've never experienced something like this. I'm on vacation with my family in a beautiful place, but I'm not enjoying myself. I don't know what to do.
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You're more upset by it then Federer. You have a family, the money to take them on beautiful vacations..... you're very lucky and those are the things you should focus on.

Had Roger won - your life would be EXACTLY the same as it is now. Nothing has changed in your life with the loss. Nothing in your life would have changed with a victory. You have to move on.
 
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tennisaddict

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Otacon said:
It still hurts a lot. I've never experienced something like this. I'm on vacation with my family in a beautiful place, but I'm not enjoying myself. I don't know what to do.
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It does hurt. I will not sugarcoat. But look at the positives. Look at his longevity, look at the 3 majors he won after 2017, see the No 1 run in 2018, him beating Nadal in 2019..

He could have retired at 33/34 and we would have missed what we enjoyed the last 6 years.
 
tennisaddict

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Ann said:
Sometimes I wonder if I'm even a fan.
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I do strongly believe fans take the losses much tougher than the players and their family. Especially guys like Fed, we are so invested in him for 20 years and it just hurts. But we need to also realize that Fed was not favored to win this match to begin with

The professional players are strong It is in their blood to forget and move on.
 
Ann

Ann

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Otacon said:
What do you mean Annabelle ?
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The way I can compartmentalize Federer. I've been I believe his loyal 'fan' for 15 years. When he won AO17, I was so happy I cried like a baby. When he lost Sunday, I swore, shook my fist at the sky, felt sick for a few minutes, swore some more then went and did laundry. I called a friend later that evening that's completely insane (in the best way possible) and couldn't stop laughing at her exploits. By the time I hung up, I was over Wimbledon and life goes on.
 
Ann

Ann

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tennisaddict said:
I do strongly believe fans take the losses much tougher than the players and their family. Especially guys like Fed, we are so invested in him for 20 years and it just hurts. But we need to also realize that Fed was not favored to win this match to begin with

The professional players are strong It is in their blood to forget and move on.
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Maybe it's because I'm an old broad who's been through a lot of wars that I can just enjoy the great days and minimize the lousy.
 
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FedFosterWallace

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Look at it this way:

If you somehow lost all access to broadcasts or scores at 2 sets-all, and then found out the final result a couple of hours later... you'd probably be mortified.

But if you'd Rip Van Winkle'd after Federer was dumped out of 2013 Wimby in 2R by some stiff ... and woke up six years later... to find him in a pitched battle with the world no. 1 for the title...?

Right.

Perspective.

(And yes, this is part of my ongoing recovery process. :D )
 
AceSalvo

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Otacon said:
It still hurts a lot. I've never experienced something like this. I'm on vacation with my family in a beautiful place, but I'm not enjoying myself. I don't know what to do.
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Lot of people felt hurt. But the following helped me ease up:

Hoping he wins one of the next 3 slams. Then, had he won Wimb19 and lost the next 3, it wouldn’t matter which one he won.

I only wish to see him lift the big one because he is really good than 99% of the current ATP tour. If he was not, then it would just be a joy watching him play regardless of the result.
 
BeatlesFan

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Breakpointerer said:
It'll be alright guys. I know it hurts, but time heals all wounds.
And who knows, maybe we're in for a few more magical moments:)
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I think this sums it up better than any other advice. I'm sorry a few of you are taking this loss so brutally. Focus on happy things, having fun, laughing and putting the loss behind you. He's given us so many happy moments as fans, we have to expect the downs too, but move on from them quickly. Focus on Cincy and the USO.
 
BeatlesFan

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One of the things that has been sort of ignored in all this is that Roger eloquently proved his fitness. He stood toe to toe with Djokovic for 5 hours without any wilting. Imagine had he been up 5-3 in the fifth set, serving for it, and just suddenly lost his fitness: not being able to move, not even bothering with balls hit to the corners, bending over and trying to breathe.

Had he lost the match because he ran out of gas, that would have been far worse than the way he lost it. Never think that this demonstration of fitness might not help him at the USO. Everyone knows he can go the distance and that's not a small thing. Try to think of positive things.
 
MeatTornado

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Otacon said:
It still hurts a lot. I've never experienced something like this. I'm on vacation with my family in a beautiful place, but I'm not enjoying myself. I don't know what to do.
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I was in London for 10 days and left the day after the final. Sunday nearly ruined my entire trip. I even got to visit Wimbledon for the first time ever on Manic Monday and it's going to be hard to ever look back fondly on it without immediately remembering what happened that tournament. Those 2019 souvenirs are going to be hard to look at haha.
 
DSH

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Unlike Wimbledon where he arrives comfortably at the decisive instances, in the US Open his chances are reduced drastically; Although it is considered that the competition is at a very low level, the hard court competition is very different from that of the clay or the grass, and in this case the Swiss will have problems to get far, something that in his favorite surface is unthinkable.
Really Federer only showed two formidable performances in the US Open since he turned 30: 2011 and 2015, both participations his executioner was Djokovic.
 
MeatTornado

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BeatlesFan said:
One of the things that has been sort of ignored in all this is that Roger eloquently proved his fitness. He stood toe to toe with Djokovic for 5 hours without any wilting. Imagine had he been up 5-3 in the fifth set, serving for it, and just suddenly lost his fitness: not being able to move, not even bothering with balls hit to the corners, bending over and trying to breathe.

Had he lost the match because he ran out of gas, that would have been far worse than the way he lost it. Never think that this demonstration of fitness might not help him at the USO. Everyone knows he can go the distance and that's not a small thing. Try to think of positive things.
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If he lost the match because he ran out of gas at 37-38 years old, that would've been much easier for me to accept.
 
TheMaestro1990

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I don’t buy thinking positive. It’s BS. Sometimes you must feel what you actually feel and not suppress it. This loss is Fed’s worst by a big margin not only because it came from 2 championship points up at Wimbledon, but because a win would forever have sealed the GOAT debate. Instead, it’s now closer than ever.

Be positive. No
 
NBP

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TheMaestro1990 said:
I don’t buy thinking positive. It’s BS. Sometimes you must feel what you actually feel and not suppress it. This loss is Fed’s worst by a big margin not only because it came from 2 championship points up at Wimbledon, but because a win would forever have sealed the GOAT debate. Instead, it’s now closer than ever.

Be positive. No
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Well said brother. We can’t beat around the bush, it’s an agonising loss. Just imagine all that would have come with an ace at 40-15...
 
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TheMaestro1990 said:
I don’t buy thinking positive. It’s BS. Sometimes you must feel what you actually feel and not suppress it. This loss is Fed’s worst by a big margin not only because it came from 2 championship points up at Wimbledon, but because a win would forever have sealed the GOAT debate. Instead, it’s now closer than ever.

Be positive. No
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Pretty much this. It’s not even been a week yet, still raw whenever I think of it. And I have to say thinking of Cincy doesn’t help either. Especially when he says “I wish I had longer off.” I think there’s gonna be a real hangover from this for the great man...
 
MeatTornado

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In hindsight the things that hurt the most about those 2 points is that I wasn't nervous when he lost them. Felt like it was obligatory that he'd tease us, but I figured he'd re-engage at duece and lock it down like he had on serve all day. I wasn't worried because I believed in him.

Look at how close he got to getting broken when serving for the SF with Nadal. He needed 5 MPs. And he faced 2 or 3 BPs when trying to serve out AO 17, blowing a MP on serve along the way. So blowing MPs felt like it was just part of the process. Wasn't until that final FH hit the tape that I realized he was in trouble.
 
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icedevil0289

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MeatTornado said:
In hindsight the things that hurt the most about those 2 points is that I wasn't nervous when he lost them. Felt like it was obligatory that he'd tease us, but I figured he'd rengage at duece and lock it down like he had on serve all day. I wasn't worried because I believed in him.

Look at how close he got to getting broken when serving for the SF with Nadal. He needed 5 MPs. And he faced 2 or 3 BPs when trying to serve out AO 17, blowing a MP on serve along the way. So blowing MPs felt like it was just part of the process. Wasn't until that final FH hit the tape that I realized he was in trouble.
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during AO 2017, it was even worse at the time because if im not mistaken he was down 15-40, but managed to get it to deuce, i think nadal had another bp, but fed saved it and managed to generate one CP and then well rest is history. In this case, while he lost the first point, he had 3 good serves to get it to 40-15 and so when it went to deuce i wasnt worried persay but i didnt want it to go there with novak having bp b/c it just felt unnecessary.
 
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TheMaestro1990 said:
This loss is Fed’s worst by a big margin not only because it came from 2 championship points up at Wimbledon, but because a win would forever have sealed the GOAT debate. Instead, it’s now closer than ever.
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Yes... this is the bottom line... also he would have won Wimbledon by beating both Nadal and Djoker...

a lot was on the line...
 
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