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Tennis_Hands said:
This thread has turned into a complete BS.

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It's absolutely orchestrated to achieve their ends.

This became apparent some time ago.

There is way too much money at stake for them not to manipulate the events to their specifications.

And they are in too deep now to turn back. They've committed themselves to a "GOAT chase" (forever pushing the bar beyond any successive generation in the process).

That poster's points might have merit in a vacuum. But they're not applicable here.
 
Lleytonstation said:
This is the odd Fed I am talking about. I have watched him play almost every match since 05 along with most interviews. I have never seen a Fed that looks this non chalante and disinterested.

It is like he is just going through the motions even in interviews. Just hope it does not linger into the Fall or next season. It's just odd, really odd.
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He knows he won't win I'm afraid.
 
FedFosterWallace said:
Okay.

At this point, I'm not even sure what you're driving at.

For the sake of argument, let's accept your position that in an utterly arbitrary set of whatever, a skeptic extracts a semblance of recognizable form.

And...?

What bearing does this have on repeated patterns observed in fields of 128?

You kind of have to "reverse engineer" this thing. When you consider the overarching objectives of the head of the operation... what once was merely predictable becomes rational.
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I don't know what you're trying to say. Conspiracy theorists will find conspiracies wherever they look. I haven't seen anything in draws that suggests to me that they are anything but random.

ATP and I believe ITF have some very clear protocols on how draws are carried out. Sure, corruption exists, and the lack of transparency in making the draw invites more conspiracy theories. But there is nothing in the draws that I've seen that suggests any manipulation.

Murray draws at Queen's and Eastbourne 2018 also disprove any draw manipulation theories imo.

Anyway, it's not really the point of this thread so I'll stop here.

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FedFosterWallace said:
Okay.

At this point, I'm not even sure what you're driving at.

For the sake of argument, let's accept your position that in an utterly arbitrary set of whatever, a skeptic extracts a semblance of recognizable form.

And...?

What bearing does this have on repeated patterns observed in fields of 128?

You kind of have to "reverse engineer" this thing. When you consider the overarching objectives of the head of the operation... what once was merely predictable becomes rational.
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I like to read you for the sake of your English.
Please carry on.
 
The Darth Fedr night outfit is a mixed bag mainly bc of the while colar (bearderer didn't help), but the day version is sharp, sharp, sharp!

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Lleytonstation said:
This is the odd Fed I am talking about. I have watched him play almost every match since 05 along with most interviews. I have never seen a Fed that looks this nonchalant and disinterested.

It is like he is just going through the motions even in interviews. Just hope it does not linger into the Fall or next season. It's just odd, really odd.
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Totally agree, and have been watching him since 1998, though few of his matches were ever shown then. Let's settle on 2002 when Roger was regularly televised.

Something's wrong. Whether it's personal, mental, emotional... he's not all there. I've never seen him like this and increasingly thinking Wimbledon is the culprit (just my opinion). His body language is completely off, as are his pressers. His mind is a million miles away and contrary to his accepted pattern for 20+ years. Unsettling and worrying, can't lie.
 
BeatlesFan said:
Totally agree, and have been watching him since 1998, though few of his matches were ever shown then. Let's settle on 2002 when Roger was regularly televised.

Something's wrong. Whether it's personal, mental, emotional... he's not all there. I've never seen him like this and increasingly thinking Wimbledon is the culprit (just my opinion). His body language is completely off, as are his pressers. His mind is a million miles away and contrary to his accepted pattern for 20+ years. Unsettling and worrying, can't lie.
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Watching his German interview, it might honestly just be that he's pissed about the surface, which diminishes his chances somewhat in his mind. He literally says you can't utilize your serve as well, obviously he won't be pleased with that. Pretty understandable imo. Kind of reminds me of the first couple of rounds of Wimbledon, he was cranky there, too.
 
Rabin said:
He literally says you can't utilize your serve as well, obviously he won't be pleased with that.
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But his serve speed has been way down all tournament and velocity has nothing to do with the surface. He made several odd and contradictory remarks in his presser. He said it was like the YEC and indoors, and he’s the greatest indoor player ever. He said the court doesn’t take spin, which would hinder Rafa.

His remarks were just confusing. In any case, he just played on a fast HC and Rublev blew him off the court. His whole demeanor has been extremely unusual at the USO.
 
BeatlesFan said:
But his serve speed has been way down all tournament and velocity has nothing to do with the surface. He made several odd and contradictory remarks in his presser. He said it was like the YEC and indoors, and he’s the greatest indoor player ever. He said the court doesn’t take spin, which would hinder Rafa.

His remarks were just confusing. In any case, he just played on a fast HC and Rublev blew him off the court. His whole demeanor has been extremely unusual at the USO.
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From the matches I've seen I think most players serve speed have been down by a bit. Djoker last night, although that could be due to injury, and even Kygrios the night before was down by a few MPH. Could be the balls or the humidity.
 
BeatlesFan said:
But his serve speed has been way down all tournament and velocity has nothing to do with the surface. He made several odd and contradictory remarks in his presser. He said it was like the YEC and indoors, and he’s the greatest indoor player ever. He said the court doesn’t take spin, which would hinder Rafa.

His remarks were just confusing. In any case, he just played on a fast HC and Rublev blew him off the court. His whole demeanor has been extremely unusual at the USO.
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Actually what struck me the most in the ES interview is what he said at the beginning. He basically says he doesn't know why he's struggling (after being asked about the first sets in both matches), which could also explain why he seems annoyed.
 
BeatlesFan said:
He said the court doesn’t take spin, which would hinder Rafa.

His remarks were just confusing. In any case, he just played on a fast HC and Rublev blew him off the court. His whole demeanor has been extremely unusual at the USO.
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To hit freely, Federer needs balls that take spin well. So he can hit out, and spin keeps the ball in. AO this year was not so good in that respect. Ofcourse other players adapted better/liked the circumstances better.
 
mightyjeditribble said:
Well, a simple one is this. People get worked up when there's a long sequence of shams in which the same top players end in the same half. But when you throw a coin many times, you expect to see some clustering, you expect to see some long sequences of heads or tails.

Also, overall you don't expect the numbers of heads and tails to be even. Yes, the "expected number" is equal, but in a typical sequence of n throws, you kind of expect to get something of an imbalance of the square root of n iirc.

Another famous example is that, typically, within a group of 20 people, you are quite likely to have two who have the same birthday.

Etc.

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Please read Benhur's post that I have quoted in the below post and refute the specific points in it.

 
Believe Federer's undefeated against both of his next potential opponents.

Whom do fans prefer: Evans or Pouille?
 
Looks like my theory's gaining some traction in mainstream media.

Some have wondered if Federer is still suffering from a sort of post-Wimbledon PTSD, after losing a five-hour final to Novak Djokovic in which he had two match points on his serve.​

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I'm honestly somewhat surprised that such a notion would even require the passage of time for acceptance.
 
FedFosterWallace said:
Looks like my theory's gaining some traction in mainstream media.

Some have wondered if Federer is still suffering from a sort of post-Wimbledon PTSD, after losing a five-hour final to Novak Djokovic in which he had two match points on his serve.​

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I'm honestly somewhat surprised that such a notion would even require the passage of time for acceptance.
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I do agree. He seems down from usual and isn’t playing well. Probably just wants a break from having step on a tennis court again. I think he’s very much looking forward to the end of the season.
 
TheIntrovert said:
I also noticed fed been wearing a different watch brand in his press conferences. Can’t make out quite which one but it’s a dress watch of some kind. Blancpain or Breguet maybe? But it’s not a Rolex
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This is odd. Not sure how sponsorships work, but that is odd. Everything about Fed is odd right now. Next, he will be seen wearing Asics and using a Head racket...
 
Lleytonstation said:
This is odd. Not sure how sponsorships work, but that is odd. Everything about Fed is odd right now. Next, he will be seen wearing Asics and using a Head racket...
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He is stumbling over his answers in his post-match interviews; his timing is off; his emotions are off; his memory is failing him a bit.

His whole bearing is subdued compared to the customary vigor.

It's fairly obvious.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't signs of life coming through. I see some cause for optimism despite it all.
 
TheIntrovert said:
I also noticed fed been wearing a different watch brand in his press conferences. Can’t make out quite which one but it’s a dress watch of some kind. Blancpain or Breguet maybe? But it’s not a Rolex
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Lleytonstation said:
This is odd. Not sure how sponsorships work, but that is odd. Everything about Fed is odd right now. Next, he will be seen wearing Asics and using a Head racket...
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So I do d a little bit of digging and it’s a Rolex Cellini moonphase....
Oops.
 
FedFosterWallace said:
He is stumbling over his answers in his post-match interviews; his timing is off; his emotions are off; his memory is failing him a bit.

His whole bearing is subdued compared to the customary vigor.

It's fairly obvious.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't signs of life coming through. I see some cause for optimism despite it all.
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I hope hearing about novaks injury motivates him. Otherwise Rafa possible has a clear route to 19 and with no sign of anyone challenging him at RG, number 20.
 
FedFosterWallace said:
He is stumbling over his answers in his post-match interviews; his timing is off; his emotions are off; his memory is failing him a bit.

His whole bearing is subdued compared to the customary vigor.

It's fairly obvious.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't signs of life coming through. I see some cause for optimism despite it all.
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I will remain optimistic until the bitter end. But, it is indeed Fed-odderer who has shown up at the USO! (at the moment, at least...)
 
FedFosterWallace said:
Looks like my theory's gaining some traction in mainstream media.

Some have wondered if Federer is still suffering from a sort of post-Wimbledon PTSD, after losing a five-hour final to Novak Djokovic in which he had two match points on his serve.​
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I would be surprised if many people would even doubt the theory. It doesn't matter if Fed has a lovely family, is beloved and is phenomenally wealthy, losing that final was devastating to us fans, can we even imagine how he felt? He has to still be somewhat in shock, as many of us are. I was watching the Wimbledon awards ceremony a few days ago and McEnroe said, "you gotta wonder if even the great Roger Federer can ever recover from this loss? I know I couldn't."

It's not just that his play has been lackluster in Cincy and at the USO, it's that everything about his demeanor is completely off. The joy seems to have vanished from him. I keep wondering if it will ever return during his playing career. Hate to sound alarmist, but he's just not there, not in his pre-match chat, not walking out on court (seems bored out of his mind), not during the match and his pressers are desultory and he's not focusing. It's quite shocking.
 
BeatlesFan said:
I would be surprised if many people would even doubt the theory. It doesn't matter if Fed has a lovely family, is beloved and is phenomenally wealthy, losing that final was devastating to us fans, can we even imagine how he felt? He has to still be somewhat in shock, as many of us are. I was watching the Wimbledon awards ceremony a few days ago and McEnroe said, "you gotta wonder if even the great Roger Federer can ever recover from this loss? I know I couldn't."

It's not just that his play has been lackluster in Cincy and at the USO, it's that everything about his demeanor is completely off. The joy seems to have vanished from him. I keep wondering if it will ever return during his playing career. Hate to sound alarmist, but he's just not there, not in his pre-match chat, not walking out on court (seems bored out of his mind), not during the match and his pressers are desultory and he's not focusing. It's quite shocking.
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Totally.

But he's been "walking alone," as it were, for years now.

It's uncharted territory in sport, as far as I'm concerned. The brain trust on his team is wise, though.

I'm taking great inspiration from the whole journey. And I think human capacity for resilience is nearly immeasurable.

Icaruserer ftw.

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