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MeatTornado

Legend
Well I'm giving up hope on 2019. YE#1 is lost (never really was achievable but who knows) and Masters titles don't mean that much anymore. May Roger have a resurgent 2020.
Basel hype train time!

Unfortunate that the WTF has become as big a bugaboo for him as the USO in recent years, otherwise I'd at least look forward to that.
 

TheIntrovert

Hall of Fame
It is Father's Time fault. After 60+ UE one knows that Federer didn't switch even into 3rd gear. That is the reason why one has to be cautious when starting to get overly enthusiastic about the chances of a 38 years old. I have seen it with Connors, I see it now too. That is why I keep repeating that we are lucky when Federer reaches the SF/F of a Major.

Anyway, forward and upwards. Let's hoe that Federer recovers from whatever is troubling him, and is fresh for the WTF which should be his goal for the season now.

BTW, Uniqlo did a stellar job with that tournament, so they are the last to blame.

:cool:
I blame the black outfit
 

oldmanfan

Hall of Fame
Oldmanfan, it looks like Federer had back problems from the afternoon...So he would have still struggled I guess....
Yea, I just read some posts on that, after I posted. But if daytime match, Fedr would've likely won bc he could attack more effectively. Fedr wasn't so hot for sets 2-4, but still should've won in 3 or 4 in these terrible night conditions. If he won quickly in the daytime (likely), he'd have 2 days of rest, so who knows how the back will be come Friday's SF?

Regardless, Fedr feeling the back in the afternoon doesn't change the fact that it was really stupid scheduling though. There was a 'safe' way to schedule for all 3 of Stan/Fedr/Nadl so that they each only have to adjust to different conditions 'once'. Putting Fedr, their cash cow, at night and allowing the most chances of an upset, is just dumb. Not only that, this would help everone else except Fedr. I mean really?
 

AceSalvo

Legend
Yea, I just read some posts on that, after I posted. But if daytime match, Fedr would've likely won bc he could attack more effectively. Fedr wasn't so hot for sets 2-4, but still should've won in 3 or 4 in these terrible night conditions. If he won quickly in the daytime (likely), he'd have 2 days of rest, so who knows how the back will be come Friday's SF?

Regardless, Fedr feeling the back in the afternoon doesn't change the fact that it was really stupid scheduling though. There was a 'safe' way to schedule for all 3 of Stan/Fedr/Nadl so that they each only have to adjust to different conditions 'once'. Putting Fedr, their cash cow, at night and allowing the most chances of an upset, is just dumb. Not only that, this would help everone else except Fedr. I mean really?
I cannot stress enough how USO screwed this up so much. How is Stan - Medvdv night match not good TV ratings??
 
Yea, I just read some posts on that, after I posted. But if daytime match, Fedr would've likely won bc he could attack more effectively. Fedr wasn't so hot for sets 2-4, but still should've won in 3 or 4 in these terrible night conditions. If he won quickly in the daytime (likely), he'd have 2 days of rest, so who knows how the back will be come Friday's SF?
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Regardless, Fedr feeling the back in the afternoon doesn't change the fact that it was really stupid scheduling though. There was a 'safe' way to schedule for all 3 of Stan/Fedr/Nadl so that they each only have to adjust to different conditions 'once'. Putting Fedr, their cash cow, at night and allowing the most chances of an upset, is just dumb. Not only that, this would help everone else except Fedr. I mean really?
Probable...But too late I guess....I remember vividly where Federer was scheduled night matches throughout in 2014 barring one and got his behind handed to him versus Cilic...That was worse considering he had very little recovery time after the ones against Monfils....
 

oldmanfan

Hall of Fame


Jk. I always wanted to use that GIF and I am losing my mind now.
One can be annoyed at one thing and smile at another, no? ;)

It's in defeat that you see where one's classiness lies. Look at the difference betwen how Djokr and Fedr dealt with injuries during a match. One left in the 3rd while playing pretty well, while another stayed to the end in the 5th while hardly able to play.
 

AceSalvo

Legend
So it's hard to blame the conditions.
Its not really that hard when you think Fed has never won the USO since 2008. I think it has a lot more to do with the slow heavy conditions than anything else.

A slow court for an aging player is same as dying slowly on poison.
 

yokied

Professional
I'd love to see the presser if someone can post when it's available. I feel for l'ancien fraudeur but the pain is more in the dread of #19...
 

MeatTornado

Legend
Its not really that hard when you think Fed has never won the USO since 2008. I think it has a lot more to do with the slow heavy conditions than anything else.

A slow court for an aging player is same as dying slowly on poison.
I hate the conditions. And it's a huge part of why he hasn't won in over a decade.

I'm just saying you can't blame the conditions today when his back was obviously hampering him. Grigor could've beaten him on the Shanghai court today.
 

AceSalvo

Legend
I hate the conditions. And it's a huge part of why he hasn't won in over a decade.

I'm just saying you can't blame the conditions today when his back was obviously hampering him. Grigor could've beaten him on the Shanghai court today.
What proof do we have that Fed was not injured the other days?? Just because he didn't disclose it doesn't mean he was fully fit. The playing conditions could may have really masked it.

In slow heavy conditions, every small issue becomes a bigger one.
 

AceSalvo

Legend
When a loss happens it is always a compound effect of multiple factors, at least at the level where Federer is and at the age where Federer is. He played well below his standard, and his health, the playing conditions, the opponent etc were all part of the problem. Kudos to Dimitrov for hanging in there too. He played a solid match which has been lacking from his game for a while. For once the Baby Fed got over the line vs the Fed Sr.

A round of applause for this guy:



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Nice way to bring closure. Nothing more needs to be said really.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
You'd think he was due a slam win with the level he's shown for most of the year, but I guess the USO hasn't been nice to Fed since 2010
 
Why would they (you mean the ATP I assume) want him gone?
So they can have a race within reach. They need someone to pass him. They need someone younger that will be around for 5 more years to extend this race. With Fed out of the picture, they can have the other 2 catch up.

Problem is, unless younger players step up, they will end up with Rafa and djoker switching off slams for another 3 years. Then the tour is left for dead when they leave.
 

oldmanfan

Hall of Fame
this hurts more, because he had so many break points and was so passive
Agreed. But the loss happened, so I accepted it. My worry was that it would be a long-ish injury, but this confirms that it was minor. A win would be best, but this is the next best result considering that the injury was unknown for us when the match ended. I'll take it.
 

MeatTornado

Legend
He definitely was not aggressive tonight. Think the back had something to do with it. But with the slow courts at night, not much he could do. Plus, when your off, it really hurts to be aggressive, and I think we can all agree, he woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
He started very aggressive. The rallies were action packed and made the court look like grass at times with how fast the ball was flying.

And then sometime after his back really started flaring up, he came out one game firing, probably out of desperation to end the points quickly. I think it was the one where he got a bunch of break points, but then predictably took his foot off the gas in the BPs themselves.
 

oldmanfan

Hall of Fame
Laver Cup is an exo, so for an exo it is within expectations. In general I don't find staged competitions enjoyable, but I guess for the trick shots and the general atmosphere it is a nice thing to have/see.

:cool:
Actually, the only trick shots came from Kyrgios, who does trick shots in slems. You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but the guys took it serious.


 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
Actually, the only trick shots came from Kyrgios, who does trick shots in slems. You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but the guys took it serious.


this thread basically showcase why i found laver cup so enjoyable.


its a unique tournament that allows them to be competitive, more than your average exho, but still make it enjoyable since its not point based. i mean hopman cup isnt a regular tournament yet hte players used to take it seriously and it almost made a resurgence before it officially got canned.

the novelty might wear off if europe keeps winning, i do think they need to find a way to change up that formula. i know the tag line is when rivals became teammates but we cna have that and mix it up.
 
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