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TearTheRoofOff

TearTheRoofOff

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BeatlesFan said:
His semifinal against Murray was the greatest form he'd shown since 2012 at that time. He went into the Wimbledon final in devastating form and nobody can argue that who actually remembers 2015. His form instantly became trash in the final after he was broken-- mental demons, as previously mentioned. His serving in the semis was one of his most devastating serving performances of his career, yet he served mediocre in the final.
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By form I meant level. In 2015 it dropped in the final. I'm positing that if doesn't, the rest are screwed, and I stand by it, no matter how many specific past failures you point out.
 
Roddick85

Roddick85

Hall of Fame
BeatlesFan said:
His semifinal against Murray was the greatest form he'd shown since 2012 at that time. He went into the Wimbledon final in devastating form and nobody can argue that who actually remembers 2015. His form instantly became trash in the final after he was broken-- mental demons, as previously mentioned. His serving in the semis was one of his most devastating serving performances of his career, yet he served mediocre in the final.
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I still remember that match from 2015, easily one of his best performances in a slam this decade. Murray was playing great tennis and didn't play a bad match by any means but no one could touch Federer that day. As some would say at the time, it looked like Federer turned back the clock during that match. It's a bit ironic that after playing at such a high level in the SF, he played one of his worst slam finals ever 48 hours later. A month later he had once again his best run in the decade at the USO, if I remember correctly he didn't even drop serve until the final, but we all know how that ended.

It seems no matter how great Federer plays, when Djokovic is on the other side of the net and there's something important at stake, he turns into a different player. You have to give Djokovic some dues here because he does such a great job of defending and making you hit those few extra shots/winners to score a point against him and he's great at making Federer uncomfortable and doubt himself but still I think Federer could do a better job of being aggressive against him. At this point, the match-up issue is pretty much mental as Djokovic is living rent free in Federer's mind, so he needs to find a way to evict him from there.
 
oldmanfan

oldmanfan

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Roddick85 said:
I still remember that match from 2015, easily one of his best performances in a slam this decade. Murray was playing great tennis and didn't play a bad match by any means but no one could touch Federer that day. As some would say at the time, it looked like Federer turned back the clock during that match. It's a bit ironic that after playing at such a high level in the SF, he played one of his worst slam finals ever 48 hours later. A month later he had once again his best run in the decade at the USO, if I remember correctly he didn't even drop serve until the final, but we all know how that ended.

It seems no matter how great Federer plays, when Djokovic is on the other side of the net and there's something important at stake, he turns into a different player. You have to give Djokovic some dues here because he does such a great job of defending and making you hit those few extra shots/winners to score a point against him and he's great at making Federer uncomfortable and doubt himself but still I think Federer could do a better job of being aggressive against him. At this point, the match-up issue is pretty much mental as Djokovic is living rent free in Federer's mind, so he needs to find a way to evict him from there.
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Great comment!

Roddick85 said:
You have to give Djokovic some dues here because he does such a great job of defending and making you hit those few extra shots/winners to score a point against him
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This is in large part due to courts/conditions being massively slowed down, thus blunting Fedr's greatest asset; his ability to take time away from opponents.

I mean, many consider Djokr co-hard court-GOAT with Fedr, yet:

At faster court Cinci:
Fedr = 7 titles
Djokr = 1 title (won over a hobbled 36.9yo Fedr with no FH or return)

Not only is Fedr giving Nadalovic a 5-6yrs handicap, the ATP made it way worse by slowing down courts to favor them while neutralizing Fedr. That's a triple whammy against Fedr. Yet, Fedr still competes well against them. Always have.

I think at the WTF19, this Fedr has a good chance to beat this Djokr.
 
tennisaddict

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
FedFosterWallace said:
Haven't posted in Casa de GOAT recently.

Fed's GOAT, folks!

To outright trolls and pseudo-trolls, alike: You got @Tennis_Hands banned from the thread. Now one of the most informed (and informative) of Federer fans no longer has privileges to post here.

Kudos all around! (y)
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It is atrocious. @Tennis_Hands - please come with a different handle. You were sharp in spotting folks who are trouble (Fed fan or otherwise). We need you in this thread.
 
Enceladus

Enceladus

Hall of Fame
TearTheRoofOff said:
It's high time Fed nuked at the WTF. It's a modern day tragedy that 2011 was his last title there; it's turned into the indoor US Open for him. Injuries, poor form and falling at the final hurdle are all too familiar disasters.
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Fed was supposed to win the WTF in 2017, but wasted this opportunity (moreover, which this edition of WTF was without Djoker's participation). With Nole in good form, it will be difficult for Fed to win the WTF again.
 
TearTheRoofOff

TearTheRoofOff

Legend
Enceladus said:
Fed was supposed to win the WTF in 2017, but wasted this opportunity (moreover, which this edition of WTF was without Djoker's participation). With Nole in good form, it will be difficult for Fed to win the WTF again.
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Too much 'wasted' thrown around here for me. There's a middle ground between success and failure but that rarely gets delved into, which is a shame. The trophies are binary enough as it is.
 
Lleytonstation

Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
Enceladus said:
That's the same stupidity as to say - I graduated from whole secondary school, just right I failed at matury.
Fed failed to complete its efforts successfully. That Fedex was optically better player in the Wimbledon 2019 final may be interesting, but tennis is not only a confrontation of strikes, but also test of mental toughness. And in this particular case, Fedex has failed.


Obviously, that you underestimate Nole. All the bigger your disappointing will be if Fedex lost against Djoker.
Djoker's performances in first two matches of Paris Masters was subpar, but then its form improved. Ultron was excellent against Tsitsipas in Paris QF, his SF and F performances were also very good.
It is to be expected that Djoker's encounter with Fed at the 2019 ATP finals will be balanced again. Most of balanced matches in Djokerer's rivalry were won by Djoker.
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Fed has his weaknesses. Maybe it is mental. I would argue he has had some failures at big moments. Then again he came up MASSIVE at AO17.

You have to take the GREATNESS with the weakness.

Rafa has injuries and has blown his fair chances as well.

Djoker has mental BREAKDOWNs and aloofness.

They all have weakness in their games. So what? They are still amazing in what they do.

Fed is giving us GREATNESS at 38 (WC19 was rough, but he gave himself an opportunity against an ATG 6 years younger).

What more can you ask for? If I could go back to 2004, I would still choose Fed, even if he ends up third or blows another slam championship point.

He won AO17 whenn he could have lost, and he lost WC19 when he could have won. It happens. Djoker has Wawa issues too, no?
 
BeatlesFan

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
PeoplesChamp said:
Fed rarely goes the extra mile these days when describing the court speed like he does in this statement. This is what we want to hear (y)
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And some potentially good news is the ESPN podcast from last week where Jim Courier said he "has heard from sources I deem reliable" that the AO will be "fast" (didn't say how fast) and low bouncing. Let's keep our fingers crossed for that.
 
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BeatlesFan

BeatlesFan

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Some people here were speculating about where Mirka has been. Robbie Federer addressed this last week, denying she is pregnant again:

Why is Roger Federer's wife Mirka not attending matches?

NOVEMBER 9, 2019

Roger Federer's wife Mirka has not been seen in the Swiss player's box over the last few months. She last attended a match live at the Laver Cup in Geneva, then she did not travel with their four children to Shanghai and Mirka was not on the grounds at the Basel's Swiss Indoors either.

Robert Federer, Roger's father, clarified everything is okay. He also denied that Mirka is pregnant again for the third time. "She is doing perfectly fine, there is no reason to worry at all, she is just taking a bit of a time out, she also Needs to manage her own time."
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Link won't work, but you can find it on Google.
 
Lleytonstation

Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
Look, Fed lost, and it sucks. But I still will stick by my "new" acceptance of what Fed is.

At 38, he still can play at very top levels, but not every match. So when he has his "off" days which come more often than they used too (a lot more), losing to a player playing great is not that bad. I can live with it.

I also believe he will beat Big Berr and has a shot at Djoker if he is having one of his good days.
 
BeatlesFan

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Third Serve said:
What the heck is UnderratedSlam doing here pushing the weak era rhetoric in a thread for Federer fans? Lmao
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His crap was removed. Notice none of this ever happens on the Rafa news thread because Octo/Queen make sure it doesn't (to their credit).

That recent poster wasn't doing what is supposed to be happening in this sub forum:

1. Posting news about Roger
2. "Worshiping responsibly"
 
AceSalvo

AceSalvo

Legend
ForehandRF said:
It looks like Fed's hardcourt game is not working anymore on the biggest stages.It's been almost 2 years now.

Curiously enough, at the same time he reached the SF at the French this year.What a hell :unsure:
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Fed's HC level went down a lot after Wimb17 mainly through injuries. How he won AO18 is a matter of self-belief.

Also, Thiem played with a game plan which he executed well and didn't give Fed too many chances when it mattered.
 
Third Serve

Third Serve

Legend
BeatlesFan said:
His crap was removed. Notice none of this ever happens on the Rafa news thread because Octo/Queen make sure it doesn't (to their credit).

That recent poster wasn't doing what is supposed to be happening in this sub forum:

1. Posting news about Roger
2. "Worshiping responsibly"
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Is there a specific mod that focuses on this thread? That was a very quick deletion.
 
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Arvind Sridhar

Rookie
BeatlesFan said:
This defeat doesn't bother me that much because Thiem just played too well today. All you can do is congratulate him on a truly inspired level and adroit game plan. He outplayed Roger in every facet of the game.
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Yes. That's true. Was a sub par Federer but still kept it fairly close with respect to points won...Thiem though was quite clutch....Something about WTF makes Federer play bad at least for the first match. Happened last year as well.. He looked even worse in that one in my opinion. Him not making the SFs looks quite likely now.....Sort of cyclic considering he failed to make the SFs in the last ever WTF hosted in Shanghai and might repeat it in the last ever WTF in London.....
 
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