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fedfan08

Semi-Pro
What a frustrating final to watch. In the middle of the match Theim got the momentum on his side. He was playing well. And Djokovic looked low energy. But then one poor game in the 4th set and the wheels off. All of a sudden Theim is an unforced error machine spraying balls long and wide. Djokovic didn’t need to do much other than keep the ball in play. There was one point at 4-4 in the 4th set where Theim had Djokovic out wide in the corner and had the whole court open to go behind Djokovic and rip a winner into the open court. Instead he hit it right back to Djokovic and came in and dumped the volley in the net. He ended up losing that game. After that the wheels came off and he became an unforced error machine. Sigh.
 

MeatTornado

Legend
It was a very frustrating reminder of Wimbledon.

The two sets Thiem won were runaways when Novak was inexplicably off his game. But once Novak turned it around and simply stopped missing, there was nothing his opponent could do. Only difference is that Fed on grass can serve his way to a way tighter 5th than Thiem on hard (or anywhere, really).
 
It was a very frustrating reminder of Wimbledon.

The two sets Thiem won were runaways when Novak was inexplicably off his game. But once Novak turned it around and simply stopped missing, there was nothing his opponent could do. Only difference is that Fed on grass can serve his way to a way tighter 5th than Thiem on hard (or anywhere, really).
It was very similar Djoker walkabout followed by a win.
 

fedfan08

Semi-Pro
It was a very frustrating reminder of Wimbledon.

The two sets Thiem won were runaways when Novak was inexplicably off his game. But once Novak turned it around and simply stopped missing, there was nothing his opponent could do. Only difference is that Fed on grass can serve his way to a way tighter 5th than Thiem on hard (or anywhere, really).
I’ll grant you that Djokovic came out of his funk towards the end of the 4th set but I didn’t think he was forcing a lot of errors from Theim. Theim just got really sloppy hitting balls long and wide, shaking his head and muttering to himself.
 
Federer has 7130 pts, currently ranked 3rd
+85
ahead of #4 Thiem
+1170
ahead of #5 Medvedev

But needs to defend 2100 pts:
500 in Dubai
600 in IW
1000 in Miami

Thiem defends 1000 in IW.
Medvedev got 135 pts in IW and Miami last year. Earns a lot from last summer US tournaments.

RF will drop to #5 quite likely.
 

oldmanfan

Hall of Fame
Federer has 7130 pts, currently ranked 3rd
+85
ahead of #4 Thiem
+1170
ahead of #5 Medvedev

But needs to defend 2100 pts:
500 in Dubai
600 in IW
1000 in Miami

Thiem defends 1000 in IW.
Medvedev got 135 pts in IW and Miami last year. Earns a lot from last summer US tournaments.

RF will drop to #5 quite likely.
Likely, yes, but I think he'll be #4 at worse after Miami20. We'll know soon enough.
 

James P

Hall of Fame
Federer helped himself with that SF. I thought for sure he'd flame out in the 4R (again) or the QFs. His draw was fantastic to start with, then got progressively better.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Federer has 7130 pts, currently ranked 3rd
+85
ahead of #4 Thiem
+1170
ahead of #5 Medvedev

But needs to defend 2100 pts:
500 in Dubai
600 in IW
1000 in Miami

Thiem defends 1000 in IW.
Medvedev got 135 pts in IW and Miami last year. Earns a lot from last summer US tournaments.

RF will drop to #5 quite likely.
If not by Miami, he will drop to No 5 during clay season. But he should be back in top 4 after Wimbledon.
 

fedfan08

Semi-Pro
Federer has 7130 pts, currently ranked 3rd
+85
ahead of #4 Thiem
+1170
ahead of #5 Medvedev

But needs to defend 2100 pts:
500 in Dubai
600 in IW
1000 in Miami

Thiem defends 1000 in IW.
Medvedev got 135 pts in IW and Miami last year. Earns a lot from last summer US tournaments.

RF will drop to #5 quite likely.
I’ll make a prediction right now: Theim won’t defend IW. In fact I bet he flames out bit. He really had a shot to win this final and didn’t take advantage. That will play on his mind for a while.
 
Federer has 7130 pts, currently ranked 3rd
+85
ahead of #4 Thiem
+1170
ahead of #5 Medvedev

But needs to defend 2100 pts:
500 in Dubai
600 in IW
1000 in Miami

Thiem defends 1000 in IW.
Medvedev got 135 pts in IW and Miami last year. Earns a lot from last summer US tournaments.

RF will drop to #5 quite likely.
It's not that bad. Federer gained 540 pts this week. He only needs to make up 1600 pts in Dubai/Indian Wells/Miami meaning he can freely skip one of them. Thiem is defending 1000 pts in IW. Medvedev is also defending 430 pts before NA Spring HC season. If Federer doesn't do too badly in the spring, he'll be in decent shape come clay where he's defending just 360 pts before RG. Making up 720 in Paree will be difficult but even otherwise it'll be somewhat difficult to drop out of the top 4 seed in Wimbledon thanks to a final appearance last year & the grass formula. But that's too far in the future.

Let's hope the old man fully heals from whatever knock(s) he's picked up dah-un un-dah.
 
It's not that bad. Federer gained 540 pts this week. He only needs to make up 1600 pts in Dubai/Indian Wells/Miami meaning he can freely skip one of them.
Take note that I counted the points after AO as they are going to be announced tomorrow. Federer had 6,590 before the AO. Thiem closed the gap from 700 to 85 points only. Still 2100 to defend on February-March tour.
 
Some stats.

Current Federer's advantage over Nadal and Djokovic (+4) is the smallest in last 16 years.

After Roland Garros 2004 it was +2 over Nadal (2-0) and +2 over Djokovic (2-0).

The biggest advantage was after AO'10 years ago (+25)
+10 over Nadal (16-6)
+15 over Djokovic (16-1)

Hard to believe two years ago it was +12!


 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
What a frustrating final to watch.
This is not to be caustic at all, but if you had mentally accepted that Thiem would be unable to hold his nerves in the match, then there's no frustration, just validation. It's only frustrating if you entertained the prospect that Thiem had more than a 12-15% chance of winning that final. He never had that much of a chance unless Novak had broken a leg.

It wouldn't have mattered if Domi had been serving for it in the fourth at 5-2, he wouldn't have held his serve. Nor in the fifth, nor would he ever have been in a position to actually win the match. I like Thiem as a person, but he's a supreme choker. He'll win slams once Nadal/Djokovic retire. Who really believed Djokovic's claims that he was "low on energy" and had his minions deliver dates, water bottles and energy gel to him throughout the meat of the match? All gamesmanship, but that's irrelevant. He's playing a guy in his physical prime who couldn't get over the finish line in a slam and eloquently demonstrated that Sunday.
 

MeatTornado

Legend
This is not to be caustic at all, but if you had mentally accepted that Thiem would be unable to hold his nerves in the match, then there's no frustration, just validation. It's only frustrating if you entertained the prospect that Thiem had more than a 12-15% chance of winning that final. He never had that much of a chance unless Novak had broken a leg.

It wouldn't have mattered if Domi had been serving for it in the fourth at 5-2, he wouldn't have held his serve. Nor in the fifth, nor would he ever have been in a position to actually win the match. I like Thiem as a person, but he's a supreme choker. He'll win slams once Nadal/Djokovic retire. Who really believed Djokovic's claims that he was "low on energy" and had his minions deliver dates, water bottles and energy gel to him throughout the meat of the match? All gamesmanship, but that's irrelevant. He's playing a guy in his physical prime who couldn't get over the finish line in a slam and eloquently demonstrated that Sunday.
I never believed. But I wanted to. Lied to myself for a little bit during the match.
 
I didn't visit this website for almost 2 months after Rafa won New York Challenger for the 4th time because I knew it'd be too much to take. Djoker winning doesn't bother me. He, at least in this decade, didn't take regular breaks like Rafa (check out his post-USO schedule every year since 2005) & his quasi-psychosomatic injuries. In a way it's harder to win against weaker competition because it's harder to keep motivation up but Good Lord the utter classlessness in the main board is just too much.

Gives 100% credence to my theory that there are only two kinds of tennis fans: Roger Federer fans & anti-Roger Federer fans. :laughing::laughing:

P.S: Moderators of this thread: if you think this will invite other fans into this thread (there are already a few troll posts), please delete this post.
 

oldmanfan

Hall of Fame
Fedr, you do you...

Fedr:
1) «When I visited our first project in Port Elizabeth, it was a culture shock. They also had projects for children with cancer. I can remember seeing terminally ill children lying in their beds. I wasn't prepared for that. That shook me up. Today I see it differently. (...)

2) I keep meeting people whose last wish is to meet me. I find it important for those who have this desire. But also for their environment. I'm not so shocked anymore. I know: I'm trying to help. That is all I can do. Like with the foundation. (...)

3) I only get emotional when I look back and think about how much more difficult it is for children in Africa, for example. It only has to do with where you were born. It is pure luck that we grew up in Switzerland. That's why I think you should help each other.»

4) «I am sometimes misused for certain purposes. When I help one person, I am criticized for not doing it with others. I have reached a point where I have to think carefully about what I am doing. But I also have to be able to overlook criticism. I can't be everywhere. (...)

5) I am aware that I can make a difference, take the microphone and address certain things. But I can't do that all the time. It is important that you choose the right things at the right time and get your message across in a fair way. Not by attacking others. (...)

6) I know I can make a difference with my popularity. For others, for the planet, for the animals. And I think it's good what has been triggered recently regarding collective consciousness.»

7) «If I had listened to everyone who had something to criticize, I would not have gone to South America. I would no longer travel to half of the countries. I would have stopped long ago. In South America it was about making people happy who hardly see tennis. (...)

8) I am in the entertainment business. It was a magical trip for me. It was emotional, exhausting, but beautiful. I have to be able to deal with critics. Sometimes I have to be able to say: Sorry, I don't care what they say. I was not on a political trip.»

9) «It's very stimulating to spend time with people as brilliant as Bill Gates. I feel very small next to Gates, but I can learn a lot. Such encounters take me further. But you have to listen carefully, be very attentive, understand quickly.»

10) «I'm always happy to go to Africa because I haven't spent enough time there in the past 20, 25 years. But I can't be anywhere. When I arrive in South Africa, there is great anticipation. It is a special feeling that I cannot describe exactly.»


 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Anyone else watching the exo? It's about to start! It looks like there's a lot of empty seats.

Edit: Looks like there will an extended pre-match singing show. o_O Doubles with Bill Gates coming up first, before the singles match.
 
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BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Rafa says he started his foundation because "there's a lot of people suffering in the world, so I want to give them some opportunity, I want to help." Great answer.
 
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