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Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
Can anyone name a time when they rooted against Fed or didn't care about the loss?

The only time I ever rooted against Fed was IW18 final against DelPo because I really did not like how he was acting and I thought he was being a little childish.

The only time I was not upset about a loss was his loss to Haas on grass a few years ago. Felt like he gave it to him on purpose.
 
Can anyone name a time when they rooted against Fed or didn't care about the loss?

The only time I ever rooted against Fed was IW18 final against DelPo because I really did not like how he was acting and I thought he was being a little childish.

The only time I was not upset about a loss was his loss to Haas on grass a few years ago. Felt like he gave it to him on purpose.
I did not care about his loss to Millman at USO18.
 

Third Serve

Legend
Can anyone name a time when they rooted against Fed or didn't care about the loss?

The only time I ever rooted against Fed was IW18 final against DelPo because I really did not like how he was acting and I thought he was being a little childish.

The only time I was not upset about a loss was his loss to Haas on grass a few years ago. Felt like he gave it to him on purpose.
I can probably name matches before I became a big fan of his, like 2009 Wimbledon final.
 
Can anyone name a time when they rooted against Fed or didn't care about the loss?

The only time I ever rooted against Fed was IW18 final against DelPo because I really did not like how he was acting and I thought he was being a little childish.

The only time I was not upset about a loss was his loss to Haas on grass a few years ago. Felt like he gave it to him on purpose.
Good Q.

I was considerably less bothered by last year's "loss" to Nadal at RG than I probably should've been.

Was astounding that he'd gotten as far as he had—in fairly dominating fashion, no less.

Dust storm? Nadal can have the satisfaction on clay. For once. :sneaky:
 

Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
Good Q.

I was considerably less bothered by last year's "loss" to Nadal at RG than I probably should've been.

Was astounding that he'd gotten as far as he had—in fairly dominating fashion, no less.

Dust storm? Nadal can have the satisfaction on clay. For once. :sneaky:
That's a good one. Same feeling with AO against Djoker this year (still hurt a bit). But yeah Rafa on clay considering everything was not a loss that stung.
 

Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
The first time I ever saw Roger play I rooted for Andre:



I've never rooted against him since, but I didn't mind it when Muzz won the OGM in 2012. And I wouldn't have minded at all had Andre won the 2005 USO final.
Ahh I take it back I did root against Fed against Sampras but that was before I was a Fed fan. By 05 I was all in and never liked Agassi because I loved Sampras.
 

Rosstour

Hall of Fame
Can anyone name a time when they rooted against Fed or didn't care about the loss?

The only time I ever rooted against Fed was IW18 final against DelPo because I really did not like how he was acting and I thought he was being a little childish.

The only time I was not upset about a loss was his loss to Haas on grass a few years ago. Felt like he gave it to him on purpose.
OG vs Murray, I think he gifted Murray that match.
 

ForehandRF

Hall of Fame
The first time I ever saw Roger play I rooted for Andre:



I've never rooted against him since, but I didn't mind it when Muzz won the OGM in 2012. And I wouldn't have minded at all had Andre won the 2005 USO final.
Well, just imagine now Fed having the same number of titles at the USO as Rafa :D
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
OG vs Murray, I think he gifted Murray that match.
Come on.... the singles OGM is something Fed has desperately wanted since 2000 and has publicly stated so. He was wrecked from the 4+ hour Del Po match in 2012, that's the reason he lost to Andy in the gold medal match. He would never gift that to anyone.
 
Don't think I've ever been okay with a Federer loss in a grand slam. Probably the closest was his loss to Del Potro in USO09. He had already won two GSs that year and was on quite a streak...But in retrospect, that was terrible. In the smaller tournaments, his losses don't bother me that much at all unless it was a bad loss from a winning position like in IW2018.
 

Rosstour

Hall of Fame
Come on.... the singles OGM is something Fed has desperately wanted since 2000 and has publicly stated so. He was wrecked from the 4+ hour Del Po match in 2012, that's the reason he lost to Andy in the gold medal match. He would never gift that to anyone.
Please. He owns Murray and that court.

I saw him gift Sampras a set at MSG. We all know what it looks like when Fed subtly lifts off the gas, and he did it on that day.

He had just beaten Murray there for the Wimbledon title, which is the real prize for him. And by allowing Murray to experience beating the King on Centre Court, that match gave him confidence which he then used to beat Djok there the next year.

It was the definition of a win-win. And as someone else said, he probably didn't want the negative stigma that would have come with the win.
 

Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
Please. He owns Murray and that court.

I saw him gift Sampras a set at MSG. We all know what it looks like when Fed subtly lifts off the gas, and he did it on that day.

He had just beaten Murray there for the Wimbledon title, which is the real prize for him. And by allowing Murray to experience beating the King on Centre Court, that match gave him confidence which he then used to beat Djok there the next year.

It was the definition of a win-win. And as someone else said, he probably didn't want the negative stigma that would have come with the win.
What?

Fed would never do that. Simple as that. He wanted that Gold. Now, did he fight or prepare for it properly? No. At the time was he okay with losing it? Maybe.

But he definitely did not give it to Murray if that is what you are suggesting? In no way was letting Murray win helpful to Fed.
 

Winners or Errors

Hall of Fame
What?

Fed would never do that. Simple as that. He wanted that Gold. Now, did he fight or prepare for it properly? No. At the time was he okay with losing it? Maybe.

But he definitely did not give it to Murray if that is what you are suggesting? In no way was letting Murray win helpful to Fed.
I don't know. I've seen Fed gift titles to people he likes just when they seem to need them, Hewitt and Haas to say the least. It isn't unlike him to do that. It's definitely not like either of his main competitors, but Fed has his own playbook. It makes him a bit of an enigma. Sometimes ruthless. Sometimes generous. We will never know if it was on purpose or not, and I'm OK with that. I just happen to think that he gave away at least two titles that I know of to people who needed the lift. It is the impression I got watching those matches.

I don't think he does it because it is helpful to him.
 

Vanilla Slice

Semi-Pro
Can anyone name a time when they rooted against Fed or didn't care about the loss?

The only time I ever rooted against Fed was IW18 final against DelPo because I really did not like how he was acting and I thought he was being a little childish.

The only time I was not upset about a loss was his loss to Haas on grass a few years ago. Felt like he gave it to him on purpose.
Have always rooted for and wanted Fed to win since I began watching tennis really... except Wimbledon 2009. Wanted Roddick to win a Wimbledon so badly and he played quite well. American tennis has not been the same since :(
 

oldmanfan

Hall of Fame
Have always rooted for and wanted Fed to win since I began watching tennis really... except Wimbledon 2009. Wanted Roddick to win a Wimbledon so badly and he played quite well. American tennis has not been the same since :(
On the level of play, on the day, Roddick deserved the WB09 win. I'm still glad Fedr won tho.... :whistle:

Tennis's scoring system is imbalanced, where some points are way more valuable than others (unlike say many other sports where 1pt = 1pt). If all pts are equal, Roddick would've won WB09, and Fedr would've won WB19 by a landslide (Fedr wont 14+ more points than Djokr). Fedr has been victim of tennis's scoring system, likely the most out of anyone in the Open era (i.e. winning more points than the opponent yet lost the match). It's definitely annoying as a sports fan, and even more so as a Fedr fan.
 
What should Federer do in order to be a contender in 2021?
What could/should be his new adjustments/improvements, if at all it is possible, in AO 2021?

First things first, thanks to the 22 month ranking system, Federer should be no worse than 7th seed in Melbourne Park (5-8 is virtually the same boat).
Secondly, he'll have a lot more gas left in the tank with this 9 month break.

Should he crank his serve up a few mph (he's very capable of it, I remember he hit a mid 130 mph serve either in Roma against Boric Acid or in Madree vs Thiemanator) and make his current 1st serve his second and servebot?

Should he S&V/C&C in the early rounds to conserve energy?

Or should we just thank our stars he's playing, sit back & enjoy whatever (bad challenges, missing break points, missing match points) he does?
 
What?

Fed would never do that. Simple as that. He wanted that Gold. Now, did he fight or prepare for it properly? No. At the time was he okay with losing it? Maybe.

But he definitely did not give it to Murray if that is what you are suggesting? In no way was letting Murray win helpful to Fed.
That SF against DelPo screwed up the rest of the year. I still cannot explain how he lost that QF against Berdman in Queen's after being gifted a w/o. More than 40-15, Fed's biggest misses would always be 2012 & 2014 US Opens. He should have won both. OTOH, if he had won them both, there's no knowing how the rest of the decade would have passed. Would we even have had the amazing fortnight in January 2017?

ITF not making it a deciding set TB in London 2012, potentially, created a massive "butterfly effect".
 

Sunny Ali

Hall of Fame
Can anyone name a time when they rooted against Fed or didn't care about the loss?

The only time I ever rooted against Fed was IW18 final against DelPo because I really did not like how he was acting and I thought he was being a little childish.

The only time I was not upset about a loss was his loss to Haas on grass a few years ago. Felt like he gave it to him on purpose.
Doesn't exactly fit your criteria but I wanted to see Federer win Wimbledon 2008 so he'd have an unprecedented 6 straight Wimbledon titles but he lost to Nadal in the final. The next year, I wanted to see Roddick win the Wimbledon final but Federer won it so for 2 years running, my hopes were dashed :)
 

Sunny Ali

Hall of Fame
What should Federer do in order to be a contender in 2021?
What could/should be his new adjustments/improvements, if at all it is possible, in AO 2021?

First things first, thanks to the 22 month ranking system, Federer should be no worse than 7th seed in Melbourne Park (5-8 is virtually the same boat).
Secondly, he'll have a lot more gas left in the tank with this 9 month break.

Should he crank his serve up a few mph (he's very capable of it, I remember he hit a mid 130 mph serve either in Roma against Boric Acid or in Madree vs Thiemanator) and make his current 1st serve his second and servebot?

Should he S&V/C&C in the early rounds to conserve energy?

Or should we just thank our stars he's playing, sit back & enjoy whatever (bad challenges, missing break points, missing match points) he does?
Machan, you mean at the slams? If so, expecting a 40 year old man to win slams is is simply not fair to the man. There's 0 chance he's going to win a slam so I'll just enjoy seeing him play, that's good enough for me.
 

Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
Machan, you mean at the slams? If so, expecting a 40 year old man to win slams is is simply not fair to the man. There's 0 chance he's going to win a slam so I'll just enjoy seeing him play, that's good enough for me.
I wouldnt say zero.

He has something like a 20-30% chance at AO if healthy. I would also say he will be second favorite at WC21 and will have like a 40% chance.

Neither slam is likely, but he definitely has a chance.
 

Sunny Ali

Hall of Fame
I wouldnt say zero.

He has something like a 20-30% chance at AO if healthy. I would also say he will be second favorite at WC21 and will have like a 40% chance.

Neither slam is likely, but he definitely has a chance.
Agreed Machan! If he does get deep into the slams, I will savor every match and not take things for granted as I did maybe 10 years ago. Simple as that. But I agree with your post (y)
 
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