Breakpointerer
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Wait can anyone tell me what Nadal did during the final? I couldn't watch after the first two sets.
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fedfan08
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Pretty sad that women’s tennis is more interesting than men’s now.
icedevil0289
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why is it sad though, that is a silly statement. as if celebrating womens tennis or womens sport is a crime
TheIntrovert
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Let’s hope thiem makes himself useful at the French this year
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Breakpointerer
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I'm shuddering just thinking of the Fed bashing threads that will be created after Rafa equals 20...
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TheIntrovert
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Won’t be anything different from the usual crap that gets posted nowadays. The people who appreciate fed now, will appreciate him if nadal matches or even surpasses him. The usual suspects who have it for Fed, will continue having it for Fed no matter what happens
BeatlesFan
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And let's put the shoe on the other foot. When Roger won #17, #18, #19 or #20, did any Roger fan start an anti-Rafa thread? It's almost laughable how Roger occupies space in their heads 24/7. When Fed wins a slam, the last thing I would ever think to do it start a hate thread on some other player. Yet it's inevitably the first thing they do. A psychologist would have a field day explaining how enmity/hate rules a fan base instead of exultation and pure joy at winning #19. I exclude Michael Nadal, @Azure and @Rafa.the.Magnificent from this, all of whom are well-adjusted and fun posters.
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Well, the weeks at #1 record isn’t safe yet. Djokovic can still take the YE1.
BeatlesFan
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Never assume anything in tennis, Rafa may never win another major, Fed could conceivably win another. Nobody predicted Borg leaving the game at 26, few foresaw Nole's emotional meltdown from the USO 2016-Wimbledon 2018. If Rafa passes Fed's slam mark, let's discuss it when and if it happens. Lots of tennis to be played before RG 2020.
Breakpointerer
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Yeah, crazy how instead of celebrating a slam win, they're busy trying to denigrate Fed... but nothing new, I guess.And let's put the shoe on the other foot. When Roger won #17, #18, #19 or #20, did any Roger fan start an anti-Rafa thread? It's almost laughable how Roger occupies space in their heads 24/7. When Fed wins a slam, the last thing I would ever think to do it start a hate thread on some other player. Yet it's inevitably the first thing they do. A psychologist would have a field day explaining how enmity/hate rules a fan base instead of exultation and pure joy at winning #19. I exclude Michael Nadal, @Azure and @Rafa.the.Magnificent from this, all of whom are well-adjusted and fun posters.
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Lleytonstation
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He no longer shows up when I click on his profile or search for him. I tried tagging him and it did not come up.What do you mean?
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Lleytonstation
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Find that odd? Do you not? People just disappear? He was an every day user? What did he do?Yes, and?
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Third Serve
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Safin.
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Doesn't for me. You can still tag someone but if they don't pop up it means their account is disabled/banned/whatever.
Perhaps requested. Perhaps not. Only he could tell us that.
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AceSalvo
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Yes. Did a second "Edit". So in 16 years, just 3 outside the Big 2.
Lleytonstation
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Seriously doubt he disabled it, I was messaging him last night.
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Which is worse: antagonism or apathy?
Will be weird if people stop caring.
Will be weird if people stop caring.
BeatlesFan
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Ignore most of them, since most are utterly ignore-worthy.I might've stuck around here long enough to actually witness the disbanding of the Federer faithful.
Am I going to have to take on these mindless hordes singlehandedly in the waning days?
And I will gently quibble and maintain that the Fed faithful remain always steady. They don't flee in disgust after Wimbledon or turn on Roger because Dimitrov finally beat him. Laver Cup's coming up in 2 weeks, then Shanghai, Basel and the YEC, I assumed Fed fans are concentrating on all that. If not, they should be. 
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Hehe sorry
MeatTornado
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Shanghai can't get here fast enough.Ignore most of them, since most are utterly ignore-worthy.
Lleytonstation
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It is not the "not caring" that has anything to do with it. However, I have not been here long so I dont know what it was like when Fed was winning slams or had a big lead in the slams. However, I have noticed it is not just Rafa, or just Djoker fans that try to squash and belittle Fed's achievements. It is both of the fan bases, and they gang up. Not sure why the hate for him? Never noticed this in general before I came here.
Anytime you mention something that even puts Fed as the best or near the best at anything, there is always someone (usually in groups) that come after you. So I just try to enjoy the casual tennis talk and stay away from the fight. However, it gets tougher and tougher to let things slide when I read these boards. Some, and I am pretty sure you know the guys I am referring to, simply have no understanding of tennis beyond their blinded fandom.
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Lleytonstation
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Yep, and it is real hard for me sometimes as I am a Fed fan first, but like Rafa (grown on me for many reasons over the years). I know I know, you dont like him. But for me there are times where I see some Rafa fans say things and I am thinking that is a double standard. However, every single time I bring it up I become a "Rafa" hater and a fake fan of his.You are right about the tag-teaming. It's actually a bit sad. But strength in numbers, they say.
And I only go back to around the turn of 2016. So, RF was well past prime by then.
There was crazy hostility from the get-go. Most can't argue their way out of a paper bag, tho.
So, hopefully they've learned some valuable lessons.
Once again, something that never was an issue for a decade plus until I came here.
Example A: Fed supposedly won many slams in a weak era (people can debate this, and I tend to think it was weaker but not weak). They use this and dismiss those years like they did not exists. But at the same time, Rafa is doing the same thing now with Thiem twice, Anderson, and now Med (combined zero slams and never reached top 3 yet). Who knows who his future slams will be against. Fed on the other hand beat Roddick (slam winner and former number one), Hewitt (two time slam winner and reached number one), and Safin (two time slam winner and reached number one). Seems like a double standard.
Example B: Age is meaningless and Fed has got better. Now Rafa is winning at an older age and it is impressive and he has got worse.
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Lleytonstation
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All I know is it would be nice to be present on these boards for one big victory. I do think WTF's (regardless of the new trend to downplay it), to me would be a pretty awesome thing if Fed were to snag it. Would soften some of the blows from this year.Oh yeah.
Been there, done that on those.
In the final analysis, Federer was facing youthful stallions and not decrepit has-beens (like some we know
Nadal's adopted a "by hook or by crook" M.O.
C'est la vie. That was his choice.
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Arvind Sridhar
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Say what guys, I feel optimistic about Federer's chances for the fall season and also AO and Wimbledon next year. The setbacks should only spur him on. The fall season will be critical in Federer starting the next season well....I am just getting this tiny feeling that Federer will win the WTF this year....Not sure if that means much since I am not basing this of anything and I have spectacularly wrong before....But something tells me he's going to have fantastic fall season topping it off with a WTF win.....
FatFedererFanTurnsSlim
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FatFedererFanTurnsSlim
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Some numbers:
The maximum Federer can get to is 9510 pts.
Wapha is on 9225 already.
Djokovic on 9865 is defending 2600 pts.
Assuming Federer wins out & Djokovic reaches the final in each event (BIIIIIIIIG IF), Wapha can seal yr end no 1 with just 2 wins at WTF.
One of Federer's streaks of being in the top 2 for at least 1 week of the calendar year every year since 2003 is in serious jeopardy.
A very interesting 10 weeks awaits.
The maximum Federer can get to is 9510 pts.
Wapha is on 9225 already.
Djokovic on 9865 is defending 2600 pts.
Assuming Federer wins out & Djokovic reaches the final in each event (BIIIIIIIIG IF), Wapha can seal yr end no 1 with just 2 wins at WTF.
One of Federer's streaks of being in the top 2 for at least 1 week of the calendar year every year since 2003 is in serious jeopardy.
A very interesting 10 weeks awaits.
FatFedererFanTurnsSlim
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7th WTF is enough to consider this year a great success instead of good success for me.
FatFedererFanTurnsSlim
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Same here. Anyone?!?!
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oldmanfan
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Imagine if Fedr 'also' gets 4-9 big tourneys on his favorite surface per year...
AceSalvo
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Imagine if Fedr 'also' gets 4-9 big tourneys on his favorite surface per year...
Yea, thats exactly the hypocrisy from Fed haters. They will never admit Fed had to achieve everything against all odds.
MeatTornado
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Fed's had it far rougher than either of them in the surface department. But saying he's achieved everything against all odds is a bit much imo.
AceSalvo
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You downgrading the fact there are no M1000 on Fed's fav surface is a bit too much imo.
Fed had it the roughest, bottom line. No, if's and but's.
MeatTornado
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It affects his bottom line of total Masters won or "Big Titles" won if you care about that number. That's it.
AceSalvo
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No, that just not it. Fed was nullified of his chances to equally represent his result on his fav surface. Thats a huge hole in the "Big Titles" which is a bogus # in any case.
oldmanfan
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It's not so cut and dry. For instance, Fedr's many losses to Nadl on clay masters likely dented his confidence going forward hugely. Had there been grass masters, Fedr highly likely would have many more wins over Djokodal (and also against all tier 2 players like Berdych/Tsonga/Delpo/etc.), and the extra confidence would lower the amount of future losses. We can't deny the butterfly effect it would have to Fedr's future wins/losses (see: WB08 after the RG08 beatdown. Fedr said the RG08 loss affected him for the first 2 sets of WB08 finals, and he went down 0-2 sets. He almost salvaged it, but it proved too much in the end.)
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