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oldmanfan

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"excited". i mean i know he cant say he doesnt want to play novak but blegh not looking forward to that match esp knowing that it is a must win

I see your point. But maybe the Fedovic match being a 'must win' is a good thing for Fedr. Sure, I'd put Fedr's chances at 40-60 against Djokr, but I think Fedr has always played better when it 'counts'. Many players beat Fedr easily in practice (i.e. non serious) but have a hard time winning even sets against him in real matches. His best bud Chiudinelli said he beats Fedr all the time in practice but just couldn't ever beat him in live matches. He said that Fedr is a different player in real match play. Have you seen Fedr's practices? They're done in such a relaxed fashion.
 

icedevil0289

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I see your point. But maybe the Fedovic match being a 'must win' is a good thing for Fedr. Sure, I'd put Fedr's chances at 40-60 against Djokr, but I think Fedr has always played better when it 'counts'. Many players beat Fedr easily in practice (i.e. non serious) but have a hard time winning even sets against him in real matches. His best bud Chiudinelli said he beats Fedr all the time in practice but just couldn't ever beat him in live matches. He said that Fedr is a different player in real match play. Have you seen Fedr's practices? They're done in such a relaxed fashion.
I wasn't basing this on his practices though. I know he is more relaxed in those. More based on his history against nole and preasure on him and it doesn't seem like he has quite found his level. Maybe he will find that serve that he left at wimbledon for tomorrow
 

Lleytonstation

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Man I am already nervous about tomorrow. If Fed wins this it will be his biggest win this year in my opinion, even more than his title wins. Maybe Rafa win at WC, but I just see this as a massive opportunity for now and possibly his future mental state.
 

ForehandRF

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Man I am already nervous about tomorrow. If Fed wins this it will be his biggest win this year in my opinion, even more than his title wins. Maybe Rafa win at WC, but I just see this as a massive opportunity for now and possibly his future mental state.
I am afraid that Fed's ground game is not good anymore if he faces a well playing Djokovic.All he can do is land at least 70 % serves in and win eventually in the tiebreak.It's unbelivable that he lost all recent tiebreakers against Novak.
 

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
I am afraid that Fed's ground game is not good anymore if he faces a well playing Djokovic.All he can do is land at least 70 % serves in and win eventually in the tiebreak.It's unbelivable that he lost all recent tiebreakers against Novak.
It will be tough and is not likely to happen. I wont even be able to watch it live, so instead of re-watching (I always do no matter the outcome), I wont even check the live scores. I will have to just check like 3 hours later. Too stressful knowing the likely outcome.

If Fed can play like he did in Basel, it could happen. I do expect Djoker to have his A game though locked in.
 

MeatTornado

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Man I am already nervous about tomorrow. If Fed wins this it will be his biggest win this year in my opinion, even more than his title wins. Maybe Rafa win at WC, but I just see this as a massive opportunity for now and possibly his future mental state.
I'm not that nervous because I have no real expectation of winning. If Roger plays like he has the last 2 matches, he won't even get a set.

And even if he does pull it off, the last few years have made me very skeptical of his chances to actually take home the trophy.
 

ForehandRF

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It will be tough and is not likely to happen. I wont even be able to watch it live, so instead of re-watching (I always do no matter the outcome), I wont even check the live scores. I will have to just check like 3 hours later. Too stressful knowing the likely outcome.

If Fed can play like he did in Basel, it could happen. I do expect Djoker to have his A game though locked in.
Yeah but it's a difference between courts here and the ones in Basel.Let's be optimistic though :)
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
I'm not that nervous because I have no real expectation of winning. If Roger plays like he has the last 2 matches, he won't even get a set.

And even if he does pull it off, the last few years have made me very skeptical of his chances to actually take home the trophy.

tbh i just him to get out of group stages so he can keep that record going. I'm also petty and want novak to not tie fed's WTF record
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Man I am already nervous about tomorrow. If Fed wins this it will be his biggest win this year in my opinion, even more than his title wins. Maybe Rafa win at WC, but I just see this as a massive opportunity for now and possibly his future mental state.
I wouldn't get my hopes up. Roger is in very poor form and shanking way too many balls. Fed would have to play at his summer 2015 level (sadly without the SABR these days) and Novak would have to come out flat and out of form. The chances of both things happening aren't good. When was the last time these two played when Djokovic was off form? Dubai 2015 I'm thinking and Fed was 34 there, not 38.

But we can hope. :)
 

BeatlesFan

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If Fed can play like he did in Basel, it could happen.
Consider the quality of opponents he faced in Basel. None of those guys are 1/10th the player Novak is. And Fed has no mental demons against any of his Basel opponents. Sorry to sound like a downer, but at age 38, Fed beating Novak would be a huge upset.
 

oldmanfan

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Consider the quality of opponents he faced in Basel. None of those guys are 1/10th the player Novak is. And Fed has no mental demons against any of his Basel opponents. Sorry to sound like a downer, but at age 38, Fed beating Novak would be a huge upset.

Forgot about Tsitsipas? ;)
 

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
It is happening. Fed 6-4 7-6. Yes, yes I did say Fed wins a tiebreaker.

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ghostofMecir

Hall of Fame
It is happening. Fed 6-4 7-6. Yes, yes I did say Fed wins a tiebreaker.

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Probably looks like a Cincy 2018 type loss the way they’re playing, but Fed’s got nothing to lose and might crank out some baseline magic.

It’s going to take about three big beatings for Djokovic to get the points lead in their head to head. Federer right now, at age 38, against a GOAT candidate, has won more than half the points played against Djokovic DESPITE playing 1,000 matches head to head after turning 30. Also, the stat in my signature is still true,
 

Yugram

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Probably looks like a Cincy 2018 type loss the way they’re playing, but Fed’s got nothing to lose and might crank out some baseline magic.

It’s going to take about three big beatings for Djokovic to get the points lead in their head to head. Federer right now, at age 38, against a GOAT candidate, has won more than half the points played against Djokovic DESPITE playing 1,000 matches head to head after turning 30.
Another AD-system conspiracy post?

What’s these points worth if Federer can’t capitalize on them?
 
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Deleted member 629564

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Interesting some people claim that legendary 40-15 choke would be redeemed by common WTF RR win.

I guess Federer would eagerly exchange a collection of his six WTF titles for just single ace closing that epic Wimbledon match.
 

ghostofMecir

Hall of Fame
Another AD-system conspiracy post?

What’s these points worth if Federer can’t capitalize on them?

It’s clear you don’t know what the word “conspiracy” means if you’re going post this. Additionally, your other posts have shown you don’t have the necessary intellectual capacity to understand nuance. If you did or were maybe close, I’d continue the discussion and elucidate.
 
Wimbledon 2018 Federer loses to Kevin Anderson having a MP, loses first match of the WTF RR, beats Anderson in the last RR to get to the semis
Wimbledon 2019- Federer losed to Novak Djokovic having MPs, loses first match of the WTF RR, beats Djokovic in the last RR to get to the semis

There will never be compensation for the Wimbledon final loss, like ever...But man this felt good, really good!!! Go get the title now....


PS: Glad I kept the belief....Take home message- Never count this man out till he hangs up his racquet....
 

ghostofMecir

Hall of Fame
Really wrong about this one, and given his age, is really the best old man win in tennis history (his back to back outplaying of Nadal and Djoko at Wimby is also up there).

AND at 38 years of age has won MORE THAN HALF of all points played between the two. Federer has 49.4%of all points vs. Nadal, while Djokovic has won 49.6%of points vs. Federer.

Between the two, more sets won, more games won, more points won, more breaks, more return points won, more serve points won, more everything.

Djokovic wasn’t better at any aspect of the game against a 38 year old man who thoroughly dominated the Serbian champion twice this season. Novak was lucky the old man got nervous and handed a match to Novak that was on the Swiss GOAT’s racket the entire time.

At Wimbledon

Total points: 218 to 204 in favor of Federer
• Breaking serve: 7 times for Federer, 3 times for Djokovic
• Receiving points won: 79 for Federer, 64 for Djokovic
• Dominance Ratio: 1.16 in favor of Federer
• Winners: 94 for Federer, 54 for Djokovic
• FH winners from baseline: 18 for Fed, 14 for Djokovic
• BH winners from baseline: 7 for Fed, 8 for Djokovc
• Volley winners: 22 for Federer, 3 for Djokovic

This is the most one player has been better than an opponent in a slam final and still “lost” from matches we have numbers for.

At WTF with #1 on the line for Djokovic

Total points: 67 to 44 in favor of Federer
• Breaking serve: 3 times for Federer, 0 times for Djokovic
• Receiving points won: 29 for Federer, 11 for Djokovic
• Dominance Ratio: 2.14 in favor of Federer

2019 Season

Total points: 285 to 248 in favor of Federer
• Breaking serve: 10 times for Federer, 3 times for Djokovic
• Receiving points won: 108 for Federer, 76 for Djokovic

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ghostofMecir

Hall of Fame
What’s interesting is that Djokovic played like a man who knew he got lucky in the last match, a match he didn’t deserve to win and Federer played like a man who knows that hes the better player at 38 years of age no less. Djokovic couldn’t get on top of Federer at all and going to the backhand did nothing as Fed was somehow turning them into FHs.
 

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
Really wrong about this one, and given his age, is really the best old man win in tennis history (his back to back outplaying of Nadal and Djoko at Wimby is also up there).

AND at 38 years of age has won MORE THAN HALF of all points played between the two. Federer has 49.4%of all points vs. Nadal, while Djokovic has won 49.6%of points vs. Federer.

Between the two, more sets won, more games won, more points won, more breaks, more return points won, more serve points won, more everything.

Djokovic wasn’t better at any aspect of the game against a 38 year old man who thoroughly dominated the Serbian champion twice this season. Novak was lucky the old man got nervous and handed a match to Novak that was on the Swiss GOAT’s racket the entire time.

At Wimbledon

Total points: 218 to 204 in favor of Federer
• Breaking serve: 7 times for Federer, 3 times for Djokovic
• Receiving points won: 79 for Federer, 64 for Djokovic
• Dominance Ratio: 1.16 in favor of Federer
• Winners: 94 for Federer, 54 for Djokovic
• FH winners from baseline: 18 for Fed, 14 for Djokovic
• BH winners from baseline: 7 for Fed, 8 for Djokovc
• Volley winners: 22 for Federer, 3 for Djokovic

This is the most one player has been better than an opponent in a slam final and still “lost” from matches we have numbers for.

At WTF with #1 on the line for Djokovic

Total points: 67 to 44 in favor of Federer
• Breaking serve: 3 times for Federer, 0 times for Djokovic
• Receiving points won: 29 for Federer, 11 for Djokovic
• Dominance Ratio: 2.14 in favor of Federer

2019 Season

Total points: 285 to 248 in favor of Federer
• Breaking serve: 10 times for Federer, 3 times for Djokovic
• Receiving points won: 108 for Federer, 76 for Djokovic

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