Federer noise during Haas match?

frinton

Professional
Did anybody notice that Federer was making a lot more noise on court against Haas today? I mainly remember it with his serve, not sure if on groundies too.
Any idea why? Tired? Tired back? Pain?
 
OH MY GOD, what insights! This is probably the most important thread ever!

I also noticed he was sweating more, at the rate of +3.76 beads of sweat/minute.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
Miscalculation. I can see the error in your maths however. It occurred as you watched the match with adverts however since 1984 BoS/min calculation should include sweating during changeovers, during which time Federer was sweating much less profusely. Thusly reducing the BoS/min Rate to +2.98 around his 2005 season average +3.02BoS/min, perhapse suggesting he will win cincinati and the US Open
Yeh I was about to post the same thing but you beat me to it. His point remains intact and completely valid though.

OP, good thread.


Thoughts from others???
 
Miscalculation. I can see the error in your maths however. It occurred as you watched the match with adverts however since 1984 BoS/min calculation should include sweating during changeovers, during which time Federer was sweating much less profusely. Thusly reducing the BoS/min Rate to +2.98 around his 2005 season average +3.02BoS/min, perhapse suggesting he will win cincinati and the US Open
<---- ME

Did you take the derivative of the fluctuating air pressure at the time? I think you are heading in the right direction. Also, I think I integrated the wavelength of UV rays at the time incorrectly.

Why did I not take calculus seriously in college. I knew it would come back and haunt me. Good god, with this kind of math, I'm going to lose credibility on these forums.
 
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I've been noticing the grunt on his second serve a lot more in the last 2 years, but then when watching his prime matches again, I notice he did it on 2nd serves back then, too.
 

larlarbd

Banned
Err, turn down your tv-volume , maybe ?

On a side note , Fed made those noises because Wilson made him a frame that at a certain sonic resonance vibrates & generates more power with a 90-sq-inch head , so infact Fed has taken a scientific approach to & thus making more noises to play better.

Arghh, it's just my personal opinion , Fed is like old wine , just sit back & enjoy the maestro - we have very few years left of this great man at work, so just enjoy without prejudice , will ya ?
 
Err, turn down your tv-volume , maybe ?

On a side note , Fed made those noises because Wilson made him a frame that at a certain sonic resonance vibrates & generates more power with a 90-sq-inch head , so infact Fed has taken a scientific approach to & thus making more noises to play better.

Arghh, it's just my personal opinion , Fed is like old wine , just sit back & enjoy the maestro - we have very few years left of this great man at work, so just enjoy without prejudice , will ya ?
This is TT, we never enjoy stuff. We only do two things: whine and criticize the hell out of something for no good reason at all.
 

Tennis_Monk

Hall of Fame
<---- ME

Did you take the derivative of the fluctuating air pressure at the time? I think you are heading in the right direction. Also, I think I integrated the wavelength of UV rays at the time incorrectly.

Why did I not take calculus seriously in college. I knew it would come back and haunt me. Good god, with this kind of math, I'm going to lose credibility on these forums.
I think it is getting close but we do need to factor in # of crowd and their seating arrangements. If we then juxtapose it with the number of threads at a particular point in time at TW, we will have our answer.
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
He really wanted to win today. He was really annoyed with himself and his body language was really negative in that second set. He was constantly pushing himself to win points. It was good to see him play with some passion.
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
Some people like to criticize Azarenka for making noises but seem to be OK with Federer doing do.
That is ridiculous. Federer actually grunts normally. He does not prolong the grunt like Nadal or Djokovic do.

Granollers and Janowicz are the prime suspects.

Comparing Federer's grunts to Azarenka's is like comparing the sound a laptop HDD makes to Boeing 747's engine.
 

frinton

Professional
Actually I was more interested to the why and was wondering if RF is possibly not physically well (back trouble or something else), 'cause his "grunting" or what ever you want to call it sounded as if it came from exhaustion.
And no, it is no where comparable to the Nadals, Aznarenkas and Sharapovas of this world...

Just to make one thing clear, I do appreciate that he is hanging in there trying to get his game back and I am sure he will and he will still be good for a couple of surprises and hopefully great wins.
I hope he can up his level to deliver an interesting match with Nadal...I am not hoping for a win at the moment, but who knows?
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
Federer has grunted throughout his career, just not in every match like Rafa, Djokovic, Murray, MaSha, Azarenka, etc...
 

KineticChain

Hall of Fame
<---- ME

Did you take the derivative of the fluctuating air pressure at the time? I think you are heading in the right direction. Also, I think I integrated the wavelength of UV rays at the time incorrectly.

Why did I not take calculus seriously in college. I knew it would come back and haunt me. Good god, with this kind of math, I'm going to lose credibility on these forums.
I did some calculations and included quantum fluctuations in federer's skin and sweat


I got 3.02762992871628202238 BoS/min. Due to the uncertainty principle, there is an error of +/-0.000000000000000000001 BoS/min. As you can see, I assumed the behavior of federer's electrons to be trapped in an infinite potential well.. for simplicity of course.
 

Hood_Man

Legend
Miscalculation. I can see the error in your maths however. It occurred as you watched the match with adverts however since 1984 BoS/min calculation should include sweating during changeovers, during which time Federer was sweating much less profusely. Thusly reducing the BoS/min Rate to +2.98 around his 2005 season average +3.02BoS/min, perhapse suggesting he will win cincinati and the US Open
<---- ME

Did you take the derivative of the fluctuating air pressure at the time? I think you are heading in the right direction. Also, I think I integrated the wavelength of UV rays at the time incorrectly.

Why did I not take calculus seriously in college. I knew it would come back and haunt me. Good god, with this kind of math, I'm going to lose credibility on these forums.
I did some calculations and included quantum fluctuations in federer's skin and sweat


I got 3.02762992871628202238 BoS/min. Due to the uncertainty principle, there is an error of +/-0.000000000000000000001 BoS/min. As you can see, I assumed the behavior of federer's electrons to be trapped in an infinite potential well.. for simplicity of course.
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