Federer Off-season Training.

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Hi,

Does any know what Fed gets upto in the off season?

What sort of training he does, how many hours, physical trainging and things like that? I've searched the boards thoroughly and haven't been able to find anything, if there is a thread please point me in the right direction and i'll take this one down.

I can't believe that we know what racket, shoes and probably underwear fed uses but no one knows what he gets up to in his training blocks!!


NikeUp
 
NikeUp said:
Hi,

Does any know what Fed gets upto in the off season?

What sort of training he does, how many hours, physical trainging and things like that? I've searched the boards thoroughly and haven't been able to find anything, if there is a thread please point me in the right direction and i'll take this one down.

I can't believe that we know what racket, shoes and probably underwear fed uses but no one knows what he gets up to in his training blocks!!


NikeUp
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From what I have read there seems to be little information available. But he usually trains intensively in dubai in december (crazy heat supposedly) with some juniors he flies in. Jesse levine, nishikori, esseynrich are some names I remember, but could be wrong. You might google interviews with those guys to learn something more because you likely will not get anything from fed's side. Good luck.
 
bolo said:
From what I have read there seems to be little information available. But he usually trains intensively in dubai in december (crazy heat supposedly) with some juniors he flies in. Jesse levine, nishikori, esseynrich are some names I remember, but could be wrong. You might google interviews with those guys to learn something more because you likely will not get anything from fed's side. Good luck.
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He has his training divided into 3 blocks I believe( one in December,next in Feb after AO and another one after Wimbledon,if I'm not wrong.) and he trains with Pierre Paganinni.
 
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He purifies his blood by drinking lemon juice, beet juice, carrot juice, and the juices of all leafy greens.
 
mandy01 said:
He has his trainning divided into 3 blocks I believe( one in December,next in Feb after AO and another one after Wimbledon,if I'm not wrong.) and he trains with Pierre Paganinni.
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Paganinni is his trainer but he brings in some young hungry guys (sometimes lefties) for the on court part. You could be right about training in feb and after wimbledon, but I don't know one way or the other. Last year there were reports that he did some training after the AO, maybe right before MC? a long interview with paganinni from last year should be available somewhere.
 
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bolo said:
Paganni is his trainer but he brings in some young hungry guys (sometimes lefties) for the on court part. You could be right about training in feb and after wimbledon, but I don't know one way or the other. Last year there were reports that he did some training after the AO, maybe right before MC?
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Yes,he does fly in juniors and according to Cahill it's a pretty rigorous routine-from he said,Roger's practice partners have to keep rotating in and out because they can't keep up with him.
I think he trains before Dubai not MC.
 
Last year Federer did some training in the Italian mountains (on clay) immediately after Monte Carlo. He might be doing that this year as well, since he took more than a month off...
 
Whatever he's doing, I think it's working. It really would be interesting to see a week's worth of training, just to see how varied his routine is. I remember seeing a video of him training when he was a junior.
 
An interview , with Stefan Koubek, talking about training with Federer.

28.04.2009

Interview by Christian Frühwald

“Wife and children won’t burden Roger”

Stefan Koubek is keeping his fingers crossed for Federer at the French Open

Vienna – Last week many tennis fans would have loved to swap places with Stefan Koubek

The 32years old guy from Kärten had the honour to train a whole week with superstar Roger Federer on Sardinia.

As sparring partner the Austrian Daviscupplayer should partake in helping Federer finding his form on clay, in order to start once again a run to get the first French Open title.

“The training was extremely strong”, Koubek tells in an interview with LAOLA1 after his home running from Italy. “It was impressive, how good and how much Roger is training.”

Beside this Koubek is revealing what he can take away from this trainingsweek, why he wasn’t present at the Federer wedding and how he is assessing the chances of Federer in Paris.

LAOLA1: Last week you were allowed to spend a trainingsweek with Roger Federer and his team on Sardinia. How did the training with such a superstar went?

Stefan Koubek: It was really great. The traning was extremely strong and good. I was lucky to be able to work with Roger’s physiotherapist as well, otherwise I don’t know if I would have bore the week. I had lots of fun and was impressed how good and how much he is training. Before I thought he wouldn’t do that much.

LAOLA1: How exactly did the training run?

Koubek: It’s a combination of a lot of things, not just on the court. Before the tennistraining he always did a fitness training. Afterwards he took a massage and so on. It’s a long procedure. To get up early in the morning, training, to loosen. During the lunchbreak we had something to eat and then went back to practicing. One day in the week we had the half day off, but were on court from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. Of course there was the fitness training before again.

LAOLA1: Did you practice anything special?

Koubek: We started with drills and played a few points afterwards. At bottom this is nothing diffent which I would usually do in practice. The level is of course totally different and this time I was the sparringspartner. I did all the practices like Roger. It was a common practice of. We both benefit from it.

LAOLA1: How did this whole trainingsweek arise?

Koubek: His coach asked me at the start of the season what I would be doing at this time of the yearand respectively in the summer. He wanted to know whether I would like to practice with Roger. No question I was interested in it. I told him he should say me a date. When I don’t play a tournament at that time I would be available.

LAOLA1: You are a friend of Federer for several years. How is your relationship to him these days?

Koubek: We are still good friends, but of course we didn’t have that much contact in the last years as before because he has a lot of things to do. We still get along really well and had a blast on Sardinia. We always joked in the training.

LAOLA1: You weren’t present at the wedding, right?

Koubek: No, I was already in Southafrica at that time. Roger’s wedding took place in a really small group. Allegro and Chiudinelli were the only tennisplayers who were there. They know each other since their boyhood. .

LAOLA1: Do you think that Federer has changed because of the wedding? Is he more loose or relaxed or do you think it could even have a negative impact?

Koubek: I don’t think his wedding has any impact on his tennis. It will be something different when his child is born. This can go in both directions. I think he is still really motivated and is going to play tennis for a couple of years. He can afford it to take his child with him on the tour. I’m not worried that it will stress him.

LAOLA1: You are on the tour for many years and an experienced player. What can you take with you from such a practice with Roger Federer?

Koubek: You can adopt several things, although there are a couple which would be helpful, but I can’t realise them. For example no “normal” player can afford to have a masseur, a tennis coach, a fitnesscoach and someone to restring the rackets. But you can really adopt many things from Roger, who is the best player in the world for me. His physical state is really impressive. He is moving very well and is extremely fit.

LAOLA1: How do you rate his chances at the French Open this year?

Koubek: Nadal is in a class of it’s own on clay for sure, but Roger can tame him on a good day. The opportunities are there. I wish for Roger that he is going to get the title in Paris. For me he is the best tennisplayer of all time and a victory in Roland Garros would only prove it.

http://************.wordpress.com/2...k-on-training-with-federer-from-sarah-thanks/
 
Mirka stands side-court with him with a whip in her hand and brings the "heat" when needed.

That's the story behind those 16 grand-slams.
 
Fed does a lot of plyometrics - explosive movement training. Its like resistance training except the goal is not to build pure strength (muscle mass) but to improve reaction time - i.e working fast-twitch muscles rather than slow-twitch muscles.

He has said that Paganini designs all his exercises around the movements he makes on the tennis courts, so Roger does not do a whole lot of extraneous stuff like bench presses etc. He has said in the past that he likes to know why he's doing a certain exercise and that he doesn't complain when he knows the purpose. (I have read numerous articles, watched a few videos and own a couple of dvds on Roger so don't ask me for specific links right now. I'll try to find some youtube links soon)

Roger also trains in the Dubai heat to improve his endurance, especially before the AO, where it can get pretty hot. From Levine's interview last year, he chews through multiple juniors in a single day's practice session which can last for about 4 hours in the desert heat.

Roger also emphasizes stretching, massages and long stretches of sleep to help his muscles recover and keep himself injury free. Paganini has also borrowed a lot of the legwork they do from the world of skiing, where upper body balance is maintained while the lower body absorbs all the impact.
 
Totai said:
He isn't Prince :)
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I think he's getting fashion advice from Prince
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Lsmkenpo said:
An interview , with Stefan Koubek, talking about training with Federer.


http://************.wordpress.com/2...k-on-training-with-federer-from-sarah-thanks/
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Nice interview, thanks!


nikdom said:
Fed does a lot of plyometrics - explosive movement training. Its like resistance training except the goal is not to build pure strength (muscle mass) but to improve reaction time - i.e working fast-twitch muscles rather than slow-twitch muscles.

He has said that Paganini designs all his exercises around the movements he makes on the tennis courts, so Roger does not do a whole lot of extraneous stuff like bench presses etc. He has said in the past that he likes to know why he's doing a certain exercise and that he doesn't complain when he knows the purpose. (I have read numerous articles, watched a few videos and own a couple of dvds on Roger so don't ask me for specific links right now. I'll try to find some youtube links soon)

Roger also trains in the Dubai heat to improve his endurance, especially before the AO, where it can get pretty hot. From Levine's interview last year, he chews through multiple juniors in a single day's practice session which can last for about 4 hours in the desert heat.

Roger also emphasizes stretching, massages and long stretches of sleep to help his muscles recover and keep himself injury free. Paganini has also borrowed a lot of the legwork they do from the world of skiing, where upper body balance is maintained while the lower body absorbs all the impact.
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Thanks a lot for the info, really interesting. If you could post some links, or names of the dvd's when you have time, i'd appreciate it!

NikeUp
 
nikdom said:
Roger also trains in the Dubai heat to improve his endurance, especially before the AO, where it can get pretty hot. From Levine's interview last year, he chews through multiple juniors in a single day's practice session which can last for about 4 hours in the desert heat.
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It's not too hot in Dubai in December. Its warm throughout the year but late December through January are relatively cool. Perhaps if he trains 11.00-15.00 it would be hot but not anything like the Australian summer.
 
nikdom said:
Why, what more do you need to know and why are you so desperate to know it?
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Well, i'd quite like to know what sort of things he does that makes it so tough that other pro's cant keep up with his training. What type of sessions he does, things like that. The reason i'd like to know, simply he's the best and i'd love to see if i could learn something from his training.

It baffles me that people spend pages and pages talking about what racket he uses, what shoes he wears, instead of discussing the type of training he might be doing to make him as good as he is. It's like people think the racket and shoes make him as good as he is, not the hours spent on the practice court.


TheLoneWolf said:
He needs to know his schedule so that he can go there and try to take a picture with Fed. Wouldn't you?
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Pretty sure i didn't mention schedule at any point... Picture's and autographs aren't my style...
 
illkhiboy said:
It's not too hot in Dubai in December. Its warm throughout the year but late December through January are relatively cool. Perhaps if he trains 11.00-15.00 it would be hot but not anything like the Australian summer.
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I was speaking of Australia myself, when I said "..where it can get pretty hot". Here are comparison charts of mean max and min temps in Dubai and Melbourne.

Melbourne
http://www.worldweather.org/185/c00301.htm

Dubai
http://worldweather.wmo.int/117/c01190.htm

Jan and Dec mean max temps look pretty comparable to me.
 
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NikeUp said:
Well, i'd quite like to know what sort of things he does that makes it so tough that other pro's cant keep up with his training.
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Not sure what you mean by "can't keep up with his training". The top players are all pretty fit.

>> What type of sessions he does, things like that.

Already told you he does a lot of pylometrics and on court training. When he's in a training block, he does more training and less practice. Slowly ramps up the afternoon practice before tournaments (he only does about 3 training blocks of 2 weeks each every year in Dubai/Switzerland). Obviously we can't have the *exact* thing he does every day.

Unless you are a pro or training to be one, I don't know how this even relates to you. Just workout to be as fit as you can be.
 
Why are you so apprehensive?? What's wrong with wanting to know what he does in his practice? I'm surprised that people arent more interested in what the GOAT gets up to in his training? He didnt wake up one day and play amazing...

That said, I really appreciate your info. Apart from the attitude. The only reason i asked if anyone had any more info was if anyone knew anything else....

Why does it have to relate to me for me to want to know? But maybe it does relate to me....

NikeUp
 
NikeUp said:
Why are you so apprehensive?? What's wrong with wanting to know what he does in his practice? I'm surprised that people arent more interested in what the GOAT gets up to in his training? He didnt wake up one day and play amazing...

That said, I really appreciate your info. Apart from the attitude. The only reason i asked if anyone had any more info was if anyone knew anything else....

Why does it have to relate to me for me to want to know? But maybe it does relate to me....

NikeUp
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Just sounds like the guys that want to string their Wilson K6.1 to the exact string tensions Roger is using. Beyond some general information, its irrelevant the highly specific details of his training unless you're some kind of fanatic that just wants details to satiate an appetite for all things Roger.

Also, its kinda presumptuous to walk in here and expect people to pony up all the info they know about something to your satisfaction. Have you searched these forums? There are countless threads going back to 2002 that relate to the topic of Roger's fitness. Also, people like me who have been Roger fans for long have vast general information about him collected over the years reading articles etc. How do you expect someone to regurgitate all of it with highly specific details and with verifiable and supporting links? Even if possible, why should someone do it for you? Go google the stuff yourself and spend some time. You kids nowadays want everything handed to you in a platter.

As for the attitude. Yeah, I have one with newcomers like you that have contributed nothing but want everything. Elsewhere on the net, folks like you are called leechers.
 
nikdom said:
Just sounds like the guys that want to string their Wilson K6.1 to the exact string tensions Roger is using. Beyond some general information, its irrelevant the highly specific details of his training unless you're some kind of fanatic that just wants details to satiate an appetite for all things Roger.

Also, its kinda presumptuous to walk in here and expect people to pony up all the info they know about something to your satisfaction. Have you searched these forums? There are countless threads going back to 2002 that relate to the topic of Roger's fitness. Also, people like me who have been Roger fans for long have vast general information about him collected over the years reading articles etc. How do you expect someone to regurgitate all of it with highly specific details and with verifiable and supporting links? Even if possible, why should someone do it for you? Go google the stuff yourself and spend some time. You kids nowadays want everything handed to you in a platter.

As for the attitude. Yeah, I have one with newcomers like you that have contributed nothing but want everything. Elsewhere on the net, folks like you are called leechers.
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k first of all NU has contributed a lot to this forum. second i dont see the problem with him wanting to know how roger trains. nadal has sold a dvd of his training hasnt he? this would make people curious as to what fed does. hes correct in saying people make countless threads about his equipment but not his actual training. i dont see the problem with him wanting to know how the GOAT trains, do you?
 
himynameisNIKE said:
k first of all NU has contributed a lot to this forum. second i dont see the problem with him wanting to know how roger trains. nadal has sold a dvd of his training hasnt he? this would make people curious as to what fed does. hes correct in saying people make countless threads about his equipment but not his actual training. i dont see the problem with him wanting to know how the GOAT trains, do you?
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No problem wanting to know anything. Just search. Its like the folks that create a GOAT thread every few months.
 
nikdom said:
No problem wanting to know anything. Just search. Its like the folks that create a GOAT thread every few months.
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I'm with you. He has a right to desire the information, but its another thing entirely to be so demanding with it and expecting everyone to just do it for him. I try searches several times before making a thread, and always thank those who help, no matter how much or how little they have.
 
hmm..

<i>why should someone do it for you? Go google the stuff yourself and spend some time. You kids nowadays want everything handed to you in a platter.</I>

from the beginning:
<i>I've searched the boards thoroughly and haven't been able to find anything, if there is a thread please point me in the right direction and i'll take this one down.</i>

Nikdom provides my favoritist type internet reaction EVAR. He, of his own free will, decides to read a post, then spends 10 minutes responding to it, comes back, again of his own free will, and follows the updates. Then, seeing that the question-asker has the temerity to STILL have questions, flies into a rage, as if the poster is MAKING him do all this gosh-darn work!

If you have some spare time (like I obviously do right now), write up something helpful. If not, ignore the request. Throwing out personal insults doesn't help anything.
 
nikdom said:
Go google the stuff yourself and spend some time. You kids nowadays want everything handed to you in a platter.

As for the attitude. Yeah, I have one with newcomers like you that have contributed nothing but want everything. Elsewhere on the net, folks like you are called leechers.
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Dude, take it easy. This bloke is just asking a question. That's what these forums are for...
 
I think it has been mentioned multiple times in the past that Federer is a bit secretive about his training, that's why we don't hear or see much about it. Even the pros or juniors that he has trained with, they will give interviews but usually give very general answers.
Anyways, a Tibetan monk was interviewed and said he has seen Roger doing plyometrics and cardio in the Northern Himalayas. For those wanting to emulate him, now would be a good time to start going to Tibet. Please post pictures.
 
rommil said:
I think it has been mentioned multiple times in the past that Federer is a bit secretive about his training, that's why we don't hear or see much about it. Even the pros or juniors that he has trained with, they will give interviews but usually give very general answers.
Anyways, a Tibetan monk was interviewed and said he has seen Roger doing plyometrics and cardio in the Northern Himalayas. For those wanting to emulate him, now would be a good time to start going to Tibet. Please post pictures.
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It's true I was interviewed but I spoke of meditation exercises not plyowhatever. More than that I can't reveal.

Sentinel Rinpoche (that's me) told him that whenever he changes diapers he should focus on the movement of his hands and fingers (a mindful meditation).
 
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