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I find it funny that people feel sorry for these multi-million dollar athletes.
The lower-down guys, maybe, but I'm not going to be feeling sorry for Pova.
Federer on Sharapova ban
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The lower-down guys, maybe, but I'm not going to be feeling sorry for Pova.
Tennis_Hands
Banned
SoBad
G.O.A.T.
Haha, the thief's hat catching on fire~!~
cknobman
Legend
The irony of posts like this.
TennisHound
Legend
Basically Fed is saying, "Good, that's what she gets! And I could care less about her anyway."
Have you ever seen those people who are so overly vocal about something, because either they feel guilty or are doing it themselves. Feds stiffness and righteous indignation is over the top on this:
from the article - He also repeated his call for retroactive testing.“We should keep blood samples for 10, 15 or 20 years for scaring potential cheats,” he said.
There's no doubt Fed is hiding something, otherwise he wouldn't be acting as weird about this as he is.
Have you ever seen those people who are so overly vocal about something, because either they feel guilty or are doing it themselves. Feds stiffness and righteous indignation is over the top on this:
from the article - He also repeated his call for retroactive testing.“We should keep blood samples for 10, 15 or 20 years for scaring potential cheats,” he said.
There's no doubt Fed is hiding something, otherwise he wouldn't be acting as weird about this as he is.
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dpli2010
Semi-Pro
So there is no way to interpret what he did as just speaking his mind, plain and simple?
Tennis_Hands
Banned
Didn't you know?
Tennis players have to have several PhDs and understand the history of every phrase that entered the living language to be able to make statements that satisfy the lunatics on this forum.
TennisHound
Legend
Look, the WADA is simply tooooo harsh in this instance. Whatever, everybody wants blood for some reason and thinks Fed had some god-like credibility just because he's a good tennis player. 2years? Really? Cmon
Why didn't he speak out so vehemently against Cilic and Troicki? Why Sharapova?
Why didn't he speak out so vehemently against Cilic and Troicki? Why Sharapova?
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Bartelby
Bionic Poster
“But I am for zero tolerance ... She of course has the right to defend herself, like anyone ... Whether it's intentional or not, I don't see too much difference."
Federer apparently sees no difference between being banned for only two years as opposed to four! I would have thought he could count.
After all, he has a lot of money to practise his counting skills on too.
Federer apparently sees no difference between being banned for only two years as opposed to four! I would have thought he could count.
After all, he has a lot of money to practise his counting skills on too.
TennisHound
Legend
I shutter to think what he would have done to Sharapova if he was the deciding official. Bad, just bad.
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Bartelby
Bionic Poster
I'm not quite sure Federer understands this but intention is not intention to take something, but intention to cheat!
She fullly intended to take the Meldonium so it's not accidental ingestion as with Cilic.
And one can see from the two cases alone that there is even a big difference here.
But in any event, she never intended to cheat when she took the Meldonium.
I do however agree with the Tribunal at one level and that is she took it to enhance performance.
But the Tribunal confused past use of the drug for that reason with cheating.
As I pointed out in another thread, performance enhancement as such is not cheating.
She fullly intended to take the Meldonium so it's not accidental ingestion as with Cilic.
And one can see from the two cases alone that there is even a big difference here.
But in any event, she never intended to cheat when she took the Meldonium.
I do however agree with the Tribunal at one level and that is she took it to enhance performance.
But the Tribunal confused past use of the drug for that reason with cheating.
As I pointed out in another thread, performance enhancement as such is not cheating.
Mike Bulgakov
G.O.A.T.
I once had lunch with Jean-Pierre Gorin, who is often credited with temporarily derailing Godard's cinematic development by leading him to a period myopically focused on Marxist polemics. Have you been hanging out with Gorin?
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
I did attend the lectures of a few of his Professors, but French thought back then tended to go in waves. Marxism was followed by a quasi-religious turn and Godard did both.
I actually liked Godard's Marxist period, although it's not his best work it was more interesting than most of what followed.
I actually liked Godard's Marxist period, although it's not his best work it was more interesting than most of what followed.
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mandy01
G.O.A.T.
I understand your argument about the importance of not deriving retrospective guilt but you need to not create so many threads about it. It takes away from the weight of your argument.
I also don't agree with Roger about players being punished retroactively UNLESS the said drug for which they subsequently test positive was already banned when they took it.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
I never publish the same thing twice, so you got that wrong. If you can't see the differences it's because you didn't read the content, as most don't.
I'm not quite sure Federer's arguing this as WADA makes the point about new methods detecting old crimes, not redefining past actions as crimes.
WADA will however prosecute any athlete for past crimes regardless of any statute of limitations.
I'm not quite sure Federer's arguing this as WADA makes the point about new methods detecting old crimes, not redefining past actions as crimes.
WADA will however prosecute any athlete for past crimes regardless of any statute of limitations.
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
If you were half as perceptive in real life as you are in your own internet fantasy world, you would understand that my comment was not referring to my own views of Maria Sharapova, but to the fact that as one of the more attractive women in tennis, her looks, rather than her game, her personality, and her accomplishments (both on-court and off) are what are most appealing to the vast majority of Sharapova fans. I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about Sharapova's fans. Mauresmo and Bartoli are nearly the polar opposites to Sharapova in terms of popularity in the world of tennis and the reasons for that are always the same in those making derogatory statements about those two players, namely, Mauresmo's less-than-feminine looks and physique, and Bartoli's weight. Is that appropriate, fair, and reasonable? No, of course not.
But making obnoxious, ignorant, and laughably, miserably incorrect statements about what other people have written isn't appropriate, fair, and reasonable, either, is it? In fact, inaccurately and unjustifiably accusing someone else of being sexist is surely every bit as bad as actually being a sexist, isn't it? At least a sexist can grow, mature, and develop a more equality-minded viewpoint - generally speaking, obtuse people tend to remain that way and tend not to become astute and perceptive.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Like other TW sharapova fans, the lie is your comfort zone, as the multiple threads archived reveal you have re-posted articles, quotes, etc. It is pointless to deny it--all in your sad campaign to "save" an illegal drug user.
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
Everybody likes a good laugh. And you have a talent for creating them.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
..and a talent for re-posting articles, lies, etc., then flame when anyone exposes his agenda and pattern.
TennisHound
Legend
Federer is being too stiff regarding Sharapova. Period.
TennisHound
Legend
Their both rich, isolated, socially underdeveloped, arrogant, aloof juveniles.
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Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
Please stop saying I dislike her. I don't know her.
And as a player I enjoy watching her and have done so in person many times. Her shrieking and some of her mannerisms annoy me but that is not an unusual reaction and I find Vika worse.
I enjoy your predicament though.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
No censorship here, since it does not matter how many lies, articles and quotes are re-posted, Sharapova is still guilty of illegal PED use.
No one forced her to do that. It was a Sharapova Inc. decision, and now you have to live with it, by flaming members, posting GIFs, and doing anything to stop the rolling boulder Sharapova Inc pushed on themselves.
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