Federer or Djokovic: who will end up with more top-10 wins?

Who will end up with the most wins against top-10 players?


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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
WHO THEN

Federer currently stands at 191 and Djokovic at 146.


Code:
Federer:

Year 99 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 Total
Wins 1  3  5  10 9  18 15 19 17 7  15 16 10 16 4  17 9  191


Djokovic:

Year             03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 Total
Wins             0  0  1  2  6  11 15 4  21 24 24 19 19 146
 
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NGM

Hall of Fame
50 matches win over top 10 are huge number itself and even if Federer stops winning Djokovic will needs three more dominant seasons to equal him. That idea is just surreal.

I don't think he can.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
I think the real question is : How is the top 10 going to fare in the next 3 years ? Is it "Lost Generation-Continued" or "New Generation with Belief" ?
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't see it happening, specially since Fed is still active. If he retired today then maybe Djoker could do it
 

falstaff78

Hall of Fame
After correcting for age Novak has a lead of 146 vs 119.

But I don't think he will do as well as Roger after age 32.

So I'm going to go with Roger overall.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
Giving the benefit of the doubt to Roger under the assumption that he plays on for those few more years he talked about... by about 10 wins. Honestly though, I think this could go either way, and that it will be tight.
 

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G.O.A.T.
Federer 207-181 Djokovic


so far...

Code:
Federer:

Year 99 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 Total
Wins 1  3  5  10 9  18 15 19 17 7  15 16 10 16 4  17 15 1  9  207


Djokovic:

Year             03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 Total
Wins             0  0  1  2  6  11 15 4  21 24 24 19 31 21 2  181
 
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Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Federer 207-181 Djokovic


so far...

Code:
Federer:

Year 99 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 Total
Wins 1  3  5  10 9  18 15 19 17 7  15 16 10 16 4  17 15 1  9  207


Djokovic:

Year             03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 Total
Wins             0  0  1  2  6  11 15 4  21 24 24 19 31 21 2  181
Still gonna be close. If Djoko recovers his form at some points and plays well for a few years, he could def. get there. Then again, if Fed plays like this for another year or 2, that's gonna be hard to catch.
9-0 vs. top-10 this year.
31-0 vs. top-100 this year
0-2 vs. players outside top-115 this year
0-1 vs. players outside top-300 this year :D
Got to MP in 100 % of his matches this year
 
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RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
The info is in the tables.

145 for Federer at age of 30. 181 for Djokovic. I took the seasons from 99-11, in 11 he hit the age of 30. Federer that is.

The day you made this thread, Djokovic was behind with 46 top ten wins, today he is behind 26 top 10 wins.

It is catchable still.
 

MasturB

Legend
145 for Federer at age of 30. 181 for Djokovic. I took the seasons from 99-11, in 11 he hit the age of 30. Federer that is.

The day you made this thread, Djokovic was behind with 46 top ten wins, today he is behind 26 top 10 wins.

It is catchable still.

Fedr might extend it to 30+ after the USO. Then for indoor season it could go up to mid 30's possibly 40's.
 

merlinpinpin

Hall of Fame
Still gonna be close. If Djoko recovers his form at some points and plays well for a few years, he could def. get there. Then again, if Fed plays like this for another year or 2, that's gonna be hard to catch.
9-0 vs. top-10 this year.
31-0 vs. top-100 this year
0-2 vs. players outside top-100 this year
0-1 vs. players outside top-300 this year
:D

Gotta love these last three, and it's actually 31-0 vs top 115. :D

Also, got to match point in 100% of his matches all year, even the ones he lost. Not bad for a semi-retired, 35-something, broken-back weak-era chump playing in the strongest era the game has ever known. :eek:
 
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Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Gotta love these last three, and it's actually 31-0 vs top 115. :D

Also, got to match point in 100% of his matches all year, even the ones he lost. Not bad for a semi-retired, 35 something broken-back weak-era chump playing in the strongest era the game has ever known. :eek:
cheers, will edit ;-)
Fedr might extend it to 30+ after the USO. Then for indoor season it could go up to mid 30's possibly 40's.
Fed is unlikely to meet and beat 14 top-10 players the rest of the season imo. We'll have to wait and see if Djoko is playing or what his plans are.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Its gonna be close for sure. If I were a betting man Id go with Djokovic but lets see how long Federer can keep this up and what Djokovic shows after his comeback. 2018 will be the crucial year here because I expect Fed to have a 30-35 match advantage at the end of 2017 and I dont think Djokovic will have a 20+ season again.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Lol, I remember thinking at the beginning of the year after Djokovic beat Murray in Doha that this was almost certainly gonna be one of Federer's records that he'd surpass, possibly in the next 12-15 months, and especially since I felt at the time Fed was most likely finished as a top competitor and yet here we are over six months later with a +26 difference compared to just +18 in January! It's almost as if Roger knows instinctively when Novak's edging ever closer to one of his records and does everything in his power to prevent him from snatching his wig. The SOB just doesn't go away. :D
 

TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
Lol, I remember thinking at the beginning of the year after Djokovic beat Murray in Doha that this was almost certainly gonna be one of Federer's records that he'd surpass, possibly in the next 12-15 months, and especially since I felt at the time Fed was most likely finished as a top competitor and yet here we are over six months later with a +26 difference compared to just +18 in January! It's almost as if Roger knows instinctively when Novak's edging ever closer to one of his records and does everything in his power to prevent him from snatching his wig. The SOB just doesn't go away. :D

Such arrogance.
 

NGM

Hall of Fame
Lol, I remember thinking at the beginning of the year after Djokovic beat Murray in Doha that this was almost certainly gonna be one of Federer's records that he'd surpass, possibly in the next 12-15 months, and especially since I felt at the time Fed was most likely finished as a top competitor and yet here we are over six months later with a +26 difference compared to just +18 in January! It's almost as if Roger knows instinctively when Novak's edging ever closer to one of his records and does everything in his power to prevent him from snatching his wig. The SOB just doesn't go away. :D

My thoughts are different. Djokovic tends to fall every time he came close to one of Federer's significant records such as SF and QF streak in slams, number of WTFs wins, number of hard court slam wins,... It's almost like he crumbled under pressure.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Novak can have this record . I am more interested in Fed getting a 6th AO , so He can get back to being the lead in 3 of 4 majors.
 
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Deleted member 743561

Guest
Are we Nearing consensus?

What was the moderator edit on the OP, btw?
 

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G.O.A.T.
145 for Federer at age of 30. 181 for Djokovic. I took the seasons from 99-11, in 11 he hit the age of 30. Federer that is.

The day you made this thread, Djokovic was behind with 46 top ten wins, today he is behind 26 top 10 wins.

It is catchable still.

Absolutely agree. It's very doable for Djokovic, especially if he remains truly motivated to play the tour for many more years. He's a machine at getting through his era of top-tenners and I see no reason why he won't also have very good success against what will look like quite a new configuration of top ten players when he's back to prime shape again. Of course, it depends on Federer as well as he might continue to play at a high level for a while.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Absolutely agree. It's very doable for Djokovic, especially if he remains truly motivated to play the tour for many more years. He's a machine at getting through his era of top-tenners and I see no reason why he won't also have very good success against what will look like quite a new configuration of top ten players when he's back to prime shape again. Of course, it depends on Federer as well as he might continue to play at a high level for a while.

Would be really excite to see the new configuration

Fed
Nadal
Djok
Murray
Stan
Cilic
Thiem
Goffin
Berdych
Zverev
 
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-NN-

G.O.A.T.
That is the live race top 10 , Only change is Goffin instead of Dmitrov. Most likely this would be the top 10 going into next year.

Yeah but Djokovic, to reach Fed's record, will have to be playing well for at least 3 years I think and a lot longer if Fed keeps current pace for a while. Obviously I don't expect the top-ten heading into 2018 to be much different to how things are shaking up past the halfway point of 2017. In a couple of years Berdych will be gone I'm pretty sure + 1 or 2 of the Big Five.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Yeah but Djokovic, to reach Fed's record, will have to be playing well for at least 3 years I think and a lot longer if Fed keeps current pace for a while. Obviously I don't expect the top-ten heading into 2018 to be much different to how things are shaking up past the halfway point of 2017. In a couple of years Berdych will be gone I'm pretty sure + 1 or 2 of the Big Five.

Stan and Berdych will make way for Raonic / Nishikori.

In that scenario, Djok should be able to catch up to Fed easily. Djok does not have match up issues against anyone there even as of date.
 

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G.O.A.T.
Stan and Berdych will make way for Raonic / Nishikori.

In that scenario, Djok should be able to catch up to Fed easily. Djok does not have match up issues against anyone there even as of date.

I think he'll struggle against Kyrgios and Zverev who I also expect to be top ten in the future for very substantial stretches. Also wonder how he'll do against Nadal and Federer going forward.
 
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