Federer popular than NFL, Cricket and Golf stars in Australia..

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http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis...-australian-open/story-fndkzym4-1226553010019

poll that ranked the Swiss tennis ace the most admired athlete in the country.

For the third year running Federer upstaged our football, cricket and swimming stars in a gemba Asset Study (gES) which surveys Australians' attitudes and opinions towards more than 200 Australian and international sporting icons.


Federer, was humbled to have out-polled the likes AFL superstar Buddy Franklin and Test cricket captain Michael Clarke to be voted the most popular athlete in Australia.
 
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Doesn't mean everybody likes him everywhere. It's just a biased poll.
 
Bartelby

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These polls are put out by marketing companies associated with organizations that want to send a message replete with spurious data.

There is no way that the result means anything other than that the survey was conceived to obtain a result.

There is a never-ending succession of these purportedly objective studies that pop up and spread throughout the media as fact when they're twaddle.

And this is twaddle.
 
Rocky89

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I wonder who votes on these surveys, I always thought AFL players were the most popular athletes in Australia.

Anyways here is a list of the most popular which includes Federer, Nadal and Stosur, and least popular athletes from the survey.

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Bartelby said:
These polls are put out by marketing companies associated with organizations that want to send a message replete with spurious data.

There is no way that the result means anything other than that the survey was conceived to obtain a result.

There is a never-ending succession of these purportedly objective studies that pop up and spread throughout the media as fact when they're twaddle.

And this is twaddle.
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Just because you don't like the results, don't make up conspiracy theories.
 
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Rocky89 said:
I wonder who votes on these surveys, I always thought AFL players were the most popular athletes in Australia.
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Time to change your thinking then and accept the data. :)


This is the same crap that's spewed everywhere I guess. Someone who didn't vote for say Obama upon hearing that he won, calls the whole election a sham.
 
Bobby Jr

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Bartelby said:
There is no way that the result means anything other than that the survey was conceived to obtain a result.
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Do you mean a result, or a specific, desired result?

If it's the later, what do you base your claim on? Do they have some in-built bias towards him for a reason - sponsorship or commercial relationships for example?
 
Bartelby

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This is not a conspiracy theory.

It is a well known trend by all industry insiders and reported on by academics and media experts.

Moroever, newspapers are sacking journalists and there are more journalists in the spin trade than elsewhere.

A great deal of what we read is rewritten media releases.

So do a bit of research and you won't be so gullible.



nikdom said:
Just because you don't like the results, don't make up conspiracy theories.
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Bartelby

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If research is not done by a scientific body for objective research purposes you should immediately suspect it.
 
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Bartelby said:
If research is not done by a scientific body for objective research purposes you should immediately suspect it.
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C'mon man, what do you want an international body of nobel laureates to conduct a phone survey?


It's a frickin survey of a statistical sample of people about their sporting likes and dislikes. You have nothing other than the dislike of the results to go on to discredit it. So shut up.
 
Bartelby

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No, But its a worthless piece of rubbish dressed up as research to fool people. It shouldn't be written, read or otherwise circulated.



nikdom said:
C'mon man, what do you want an international body of nobel laureates to conduct a phone survey?


It's a frickin survey of a statistical sample of people about their sporting likes and dislikes. You have nothing other than the dislike of the results to go on to discredit it. So shut up.
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Bartelby

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Tomorrow's popular radio and tv will be full of the nonsense that four of Australia's top ten favourite sports people are tennis players and guess what starts tomorrow???
 
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ha haha haaaaaa..look at poor old warnie..:)

arrogant. fake, selfish, untrustworthy..etc :)

the australian public have spoken...so mote it be.
 
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Bartelby said:
No, But its a worthless piece of rubbish dressed up as research to fool people. It shouldn't be written, read or otherwise circulated.
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Where did the OP say its "research". All it says is that it's a survey. Again, the only reason you diminish it is because you cant stand Federer and it offends your sensibilities to see that a large number of people do in fact like him.
 
Bartelby

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A survey is a research method and Federer is my favourite player as well, but the survey is rubbish.

If Federer played tennis as well as people do research and write newspaper articles then I could beat him.
 
rk_sports

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ah! Serena in the most disliked in Oz.. wonder why...
could that be because of the USO incident (against Stosur not the other infamous one)?
 
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admired doesn't mean popular.

in germany we have the same with dirk nowitzki. everyone is saying "wow he is one of the best basketbal players ever bla bla" but there are not going to be any screaming teenagers when he shows up.:) (well not a lot)

in fact the germans won't even watch his games in TV. they will just read about his wins in the newpaper and say like "cool, he won again".

I think the same is true with tennis stars like nadal or fed. everyone has great respect for them and acknowledges their greatness but people are not going to get crazy like they do for a soccer match.

when there is a soccer WC people will not talk about or watch anything else for a month. they will go to public viewing parties and cry if their team loses.

that is just not going to happen in tennis. a few will watch some matches, maybe even have a short talk about the final match but you can absolutely not compare that to the craze about soccer or american football.

federer makes a lot of money because tennis has a very consistent followership all over the world. but in no country in the world (even in switzerland were skiing and even football are certainly more in the media then tennis) there will be a collective craze like there is in soccer.
 
Bartelby

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The trend to use spurious opinion polling as a way of advertising - in this case advertising the AO:


These polls are put out by marketing companies associated with organizations that want to send a message replete with spurious data.

There is no way that the result means anything other than that the survey was conceived to obtain a result.

There is a never-ending succession of these purportedly objective studies that pop up and spread throughout the media as fact when they're twaddle.

And this is twaddle.


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What trend is this?
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westside

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Gee people are making a big deal out of this. My only concern is how Gary Ablett jr is not on the most liked? Anyone who has a dream team should have voted for him! :)
 
Speranza

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I'd have to say that what Bartelby points to does make sense, that the timing of such 'surveys' etc. is done with a hidden agenda.

That said, it's a touch more difficult (without knowing the exact questions involved and which demographic was questioned) to prove that Federer topping the survey was guaranteed, regardless of the aims.
 
Bartelby

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Gemba, the marketing company doing the survey, has Tennis Australia as a client.

Their pitch from their website to Cricket Australia is that athletes have more 'asset power' in uncluttered environments (viz not large football competitions with many players and teams).
 
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Rocky89 said:
I wonder who votes on these surveys, I always thought AFL players were the most popular athletes in Australia.

Anyways here is a list of the most popular which includes Federer, Nadal and Stosur, and least popular athletes from the survey.

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Based on the conversations I have with people, I'd actually say this is relatively accurate. Personally I'm not a Nadal fan, but I know plenty of people in this country have a lot of respect for Federer, Nadal and Stosur, as far as cricketers go McGrath, Ponting and Clarke are well looked upon, and the 'disliked' list... pretty much spot-on. Warne and Tiger are 50-50, Serena is pretty much universally disliked, as is Fevola.
 
octobrina10

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The whole Aussie town Kendall will be cheering for Rafa during Australian Open 2014
¤¤ Aussie town Kendall wins the AO Blitz and chooses Nadal
Tuesday, 7 January, 2014
Kendall (NSW) has won the AO Blitz and has chosen No.1 ranked male Rafael Nadal to cheer for during Australian Open 2014. Rafa has instantly increased his fan base by a whole town due to Kendall’s outstanding efforts in the nation-wide Tennis Australia campaign.¤¤
http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/news/articles/2014-01-07/201401071389082561401.html
 
FreeBird

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This survey would have been taken when Australia handed their asses to England in Ashes. No way that Ricky Ponting, Brett Lee or Michael Clarke less famous than Federer.:shock:
 
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Adam Scott isn't on that list ? That's a bit surprising. In the most liked section I mean. His victory at the Masters was the first ever Major win by an Australian.

I find it funny that arrogance seems to be a common reason to dislike athletes. Anyone who goes outside, drive in the streets, go to work, etc, will meet countless of arrogant people. Pro athletes have to be one of the most cocky people in the world. They almost have to, considering how thin the air is at the top.
 
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Bartelby said:
If research is not done by a scientific body for objective research purposes you should immediately suspect it.
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Who conducts the survey and their intentions is irrelevant.

What is releveant is the method they used. Until that is made known, the statistics means nothing. I'm not saying these results mean nothing. But, typically, accompaying the result will be an explanation of how he survey was conducted.

EDIT: sorry for the triple post...first time ever so don't write home about it.
 
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sureshs said:
It is pretty obvious to me why
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Yeah,Aussies love the humble,down to earth battlers. That doesn't describe Serena. Surprised Vika isn't on there as well,the crowd was against her in the final last year and know she shouldn't have really won,only did because of Li getting injured...
 
Zildite

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Silent said:
Adam Scott isn't on that list ? That's a bit surprising. In the most liked section I mean. His victory at the Masters was the first ever Major win by an Australian.
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This list is old. I wonder if there is an updated one.
 
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I'm happy that the OP hasn't posted for the past 6 months. His obession with Federer was creepy and extreme. I remember he started a Nadal hate thread simply because he said Federer was "one of the greatest" rather than "THE greatest" like he wanted everyone to say.
 
NADALRECORD

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Sid_Vicious said:
I'm happy that the OP hasn't posted for the past 6 months. His obession with Federer was creepy and extreme. I remember he started a Nadal hate thread simply because he said Federer was "one of the greatest" rather than "THE greatest" like he wanted everyone to say.
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LOL people like that will not have a happy 2014-2016.....
 
tipsa...don'tlikehim!

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Silent said:
I'm no Australian and love the NFL, but something tells me that in Australia, the NFL is probably viewed as a lady's sport !
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I didn't even mean that, I meant they probably don't even know US football because they got their own version of football called "Aussie rules"

NFL is not popular in Europe, not in Asia, nowhere except in America.
 
FreeBird

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tipsa...don'tlikehim! said:
I didn't even mean that, I meant they probably don't even know US football because they got their own version of football called "Aussie rules"

NFL is not popular in Europe, not in Asia, nowhere except in America.
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NFL following is literally close to Zero in India. :lol: Most of the Indians dont even know that such sport exists. NFL is all about Murican hype. The outside world does not care.
 
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Well, not to go off topic too much but football is closer to the Olympic one might think.

Not american or canadian football, but 6 vs 6 or 7 vs 7 football.
 
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