Federer Vs Zverev (Hopman Cup)

The winner will be ...

  • Z

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Fedr

    Votes: 21 72.4%

  • Total voters
    29
Rog choosing to Fedberg Z with swarming the net at every opportunity. I still feel he has a lot of room to improve on the FH, which bodes well for his Melbourne campaign. However, he simply can’t be the favorite with both Nole and Rafa around, and him being that old and inconsistent.

He could do very well, though. It’ll take a great opponent and a poorly playing Roger to lose against the field. For Z, this is yet another reminder how much he still needs to work on his game and mentality. It’s good to see him angry even in an exho; this means he hates to lose. But he really looked lost out there and not sure what to do. Surely he had enough practice of playing net rushers with Mischa. He is still not ready to take the throne from the looks of it.
 
Zverev is so average at hitting passing shots under pressure as we saw today.

One of the great common skills Fed, Nadal, Djok and Murray have always had in their lockers is finding these pockets on the run under pressure.
 

mike danny

Talk Tennis Guru
They're also totally different players, and just stretched really thin.

Raonic and Nishikori are Yin and Yang, one can only serve, the other can do everything else but serves himself out of Slam contention. They are united in injury. Dimitrov just has a really intricate game that falls apart incredibly easily.

But really, say what you want for the lost gen, but their actual best performances have often been in Slams, which is absolutely the opposite for the next gen.
No arguments there. Dimitrov's performances at Wimb 2014 and AO 2017 blow the Next Gen out of the water. Raonic's AO 2016 performance and Nishikori's USO 2014 performance too. Although Nishi lost to Cilic, not to a Big 3 and Murray player. That one still hurts for him.
 
zverev's serve should be far more monstrous than what it is, not sure what's wrong with it though.
is it too flat perhaps? or maybe his action is just really easy to read?
he misses heaps of 1st serves, and just seems way too easy for fed to get back.

very disappointing loss by zverev
You're talking about probably the greatest 'big-serve' returner in history.

Djokovic is probably the best overall returner, and also what I consider the best 'offensive-returner' too.

But I think Fed is the best 'defensive-returner' and also the best 'big-serve' returner. Pacy serves are not enough to beat the OldMan often. [As a fan, that doesn't make it any less nerve-wracking knowing they'll be Fedr's next opponents tho :eek:]
 

Hamnavoe

Hall of Fame
Federer levelling his exhibition head to head with Zverev after the defeat to the gangly German in November, I see

It seems that the off season has made him 10 years younger
 
Welp, Zed is definitely not breaking through this year. Can't be getting routined by a 37 year old if your supposed to be the next guy.
If by 'breaking through' you mean for Z to win a slam, I can agree to it (though I think he has a shot at RG19, and an even better shot at USO19).

I think Fed is just a bad matchup for Z (IMO, current Z is like a taller 2003-Roddick with their BH/FH switched). Z has the current 'in-style' game (left-right-topspin tennis), modeled after Djokoray's, but he lacks their movement, can't yet cope well with variety, and his FH is not up to snuff yet. Average-to-great Fed is hard to beat when those 3 are not of decent+ standard.
 
I believe if Fed and Djoko clashes Fed will get the win this time. Djokovic has not been impressive at all.

Federer will win AO 19.
 
I believe if Fed and Djoko clashes Fed will get the win this time. Djokovic has not been impressive at all.

Federer will win AO 19.
You really believe that? I'll take Djokerer finals bc that means Fedr is playing for the trophy. But it's 55/45 Djokr, imo. That ~6yrs will always favor Djokr, not to mention his game counters Fedr's.
 
You are really good at this aren't you ?
Federer is fresh and rejuvenated and the courts in Australia that the organizers have tailor-made for him suits him. Djokovic likes Plexi aswell but unless he raises his game and changes his tactics Federer wont be his Only problem. His tactics in Doha was just really bad standing back and not taking initiative.

The Federer style today coupled with being fresh is a dangerous combo. He is capable of unbelieveable attacking and fast tennis that will blow out anyone standing in his way.
 
Federer is fresh and rejuvenated and the courts in Australia that the organizers have tailor-made for him suits him. Djokovic likes Plexi aswell but unless he raises his game and changes his tactics Federer wont be his Only problem. His tactics in Doha was just really bad standing back and not taking initiative.
I agree with you Federer can win AO. Not sure why some think that is a far-fetched proclamation given an ailing Nadal, no Del Trolltro for Fed and no real threat besides Djokovic.

Unless one of Fed's pigeons plans to fly I expect a deep run for the 47 year old.

Against Novak I'd pick Novak but aside from that I wouldn't pick anyone pre-match to beat fed.
 
Federer is fresh and rejuvenated and the courts in Australia that the organizers have tailor-made for him suits him. Djokovic likes Plexi aswell but unless he raises his game and changes his tactics Federer wont be his Only problem. His tactics in Doha was just really bad standing back and not taking initiative.

The Federer style today coupled with being fresh is a dangerous combo. He is capable of unbelieveable attacking and fast tennis that will blow out anyone standing in his way.
Even though I agree with the rest of your post, I just got to ask: when was this tailor-making of the court for Roger actually performed?
 
I agree with you Federer can win AO. Not sure why some think that is a far-fetched proclamation given an ailing Nadal, no Del Trolltro for Fed and no real threat besides Djokovic.

Unless one of Fed's pigeons plans to fly I expect a deep run for the 47 year old.

Against Novak I'd pick Novak but aside from that I wouldn't pick anyone pre-match to beat fed.
The biggest thing is that he is coming into a new season and he is rested. It doesn't only have to do with the court being good for him.
 

mike danny

Talk Tennis Guru
Even though I agree with the rest of your post, I just got to ask: when was this tailor-making of the court for Roger actually performed?
The courts are a bit faster -> courts are tailor made for Fed. Anything that is not slow must mean that Fed is favored by the higher echelon.
 
Djokovic is still the clear favorite in my mind but he honestly seems just as likely to be "shocked" by one of his pigeons as Federer is.

It's not quite the Djokovic of old in the sense that he cannot be beaten by a non Fed/Nadal/Muzziah type.

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if AO crowned a new slam champion.

Aka Tomas Berdych.
 

alexio88

Professional
The biggest thing is that he is coming into a new season and he is rested. It doesn't only have to do with the court being good for him.
maybe berdych also gets extra chances for the win too if (just like you say here ) courts being faster this time):D
 
I agree with you Federer can win AO. Not sure why some think that is a far-fetched proclamation given an ailing Nadal, no Del Trolltro for Fed and no real threat besides Djokovic.

Unless one of Fed's pigeons plans to fly I expect a deep run for the 47 year old.

Against Novak I'd pick Novak but aside from that I wouldn't pick anyone pre-match to beat fed.
Fedr is turning 88yo this year, but I read 67yo and 55yo Fed in the FedNews thread. At this rate, Fed will be 7yo by the time he wins AO19. Youngest evah! :eek:
 
Nearly Masterclass; this is why no future number 1's in the next 5 years will have any interest in an exhibition with Fed unless it's scripted
 
You're talking about probably the greatest 'big-serve' returner in history.

Djokovic is probably the best overall returner, and also what I consider the best 'offensive-returner' too.

But I think Fed is the best 'defensive-returner' and also the best 'big-serve' returner. Pacy serves are not enough to beat the OldMan often. [As a fan, that doesn't make it any less nerve-wracking knowing they'll be Fedr's next opponents tho :eek:]
Rafa is the best big server returner.
 
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