Federer will beat Nadal in 5 sets

Parabolica

Semi-Pro
You heard it here first. These are the top 10 reasons why:

  1. Roger is full of confidence from his recent victory over a top opponent in Stanimal.
  2. Roger is full of confidence as he has beaten Nadal the last 6 encounters.
  3. Roger now understands what tactics work against Nadal. Whether its hard court or clay, the surface doesn’t matter as much anymore. The tactics should still be effective.
  4. Roger has nothing to lose against Nadal and will play much freer than he ever has at Roland Garros.
  5. Roger will have two full days off which will mean he will have the necessary rest to battle Nadal for 5 sets, if required.
  6. Rafa is not battle tested as he has not had to face anyone worthy of testing him. This will give the first set to Fed.
  7. Rafa is definitely beatable this year on clay and lacks confidence when pushed hard. As evidenced by his losses to Theim, Tsitsipas, and Fognini. In all 3 encounters, Rafa was pushed hard and retreated instead of playing aggressive. He will do this again in the SF.
  8. The Roland Garros balls are much quicker than they were in pre-2015 which will favour Fed.
  9. Phillipe Chatrier during the day plays very much like Rod Laver Arena at night. Almost identical ball bounce conditions, which should give Fed a better chance to drive his backhand cross court.
  10. The weather is supposed to be cloudy and not too hot. These conditions should favour Fed as the ball won’t be as lively (bounce off the court), compared to sunny and hot conditions.
 

Tostao80

New User
Feds last 6 wins have all come on hard. How is that proof that Roger now understands what tactics work against Nadal (your words "Whether its hard court or clay, the surface doesn’t matter as much anymore. The tactics should still be effective".
There is no evidence to this. Rafa is a totally different player on clay, Fed knows this.
 
You will also heard it here first that you're an idiot with your stupid analysis. Federer is 0-5 against Nadal at RG. Beating Wawrinka means nothing. Wawrinka also lost to Nadal in straight set in 2017 RG final.

How the hell does Fed go from 0-5 against Nadal to beating Nadal in the SF two days from now?
 
If this happens, TTW, and maybe the world, will fully melt down lol.

I am here for it. Would be incredible to see him pull this off.
 
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Deleted member 763024

Guest
OP this thread will go down in TTW history if that happens.


More likely, ************* will make fun of it after the fact.

Hope you're right though!
 

SamprasisGOAT

Professional
You heard it here first. These are the top 10 reasons why:

  1. Roger is full of confidence from his recent victory over a top opponent in Stanimal.
  2. Roger is full of confidence as he has beaten Nadal the last 6 encounters.
  3. Roger now understands what tactics work against Nadal. Whether its hard court or clay, the surface doesn’t matter as much anymore. The tactics should still be effective.
  4. Roger has nothing to lose against Nadal and will play much freer than he ever has at Roland Garros.
  5. Roger will have two full days off which will mean he will have the necessary rest to battle Nadal for 5 sets, if required.
  6. Rafa is not battle tested as he has not had to face anyone worthy of testing him. This will give the first set to Fed.
  7. Rafa is definitely beatable this year on clay and lacks confidence when pushed hard. As evidenced by his losses to Theim, Tsitsipas, and Fognini. In all 3 encounters, Rafa was pushed hard and retreated instead of playing aggressive. He will do this again in the SF.
  8. The Roland Garros balls are much quicker than they were in pre-2015 which will favour Fed.
  9. Phillipe Chatrier during the day plays very much like Rod Laver Arena at night. Almost identical ball bounce conditions, which should give Fed a better chance to drive his backhand cross court.
  10. The weather is supposed to be cloudy and not too hot. These conditions should favour Fed as the ball won’t be as lively (bounce off the court), compared to sunny and hot conditions.
Like it. Now someone may do 10 reasons why nadal will win and your post won’t seem as good.

I like Rogers chances more now in 2019 than I did in 2011 2008 2007 2006. Has a better style to beat nadul now. And nadul is far more attacking these days. If Federer wins on Friday and then beats nadal at Wimbledon again it will make the h2h at the French 5-1 and Wimbledon 4-1. About right I’d say. And it will finally take the 2008 Wimbledon final pain away.
 

MeatTornado

Legend
You heard it here first. These are the top 10 reasons why:

  1. Roger is full of confidence from his recent victory over a top opponent in Stanimal.
  2. Roger is full of confidence as he has beaten Nadal the last 6 encounters.
  3. Roger now understands what tactics work against Nadal. Whether its hard court or clay, the surface doesn’t matter as much anymore. The tactics should still be effective.
  4. Roger has nothing to lose against Nadal and will play much freer than he ever has at Roland Garros.
  5. Roger will have two full days off which will mean he will have the necessary rest to battle Nadal for 5 sets, if required.
  6. Rafa is not battle tested as he has not had to face anyone worthy of testing him. This will give the first set to Fed.
  7. Rafa is definitely beatable this year on clay and lacks confidence when pushed hard. As evidenced by his losses to Theim, Tsitsipas, and Fognini. In all 3 encounters, Rafa was pushed hard and retreated instead of playing aggressive. He will do this again in the SF.
  8. The Roland Garros balls are much quicker than they were in pre-2015 which will favour Fed.
  9. Phillipe Chatrier during the day plays very much like Rod Laver Arena at night. Almost identical ball bounce conditions, which should give Fed a better chance to drive his backhand cross court.
  10. The weather is supposed to be cloudy and not too hot. These conditions should favour Fed as the ball won’t be as lively (bounce off the court), compared to sunny and hot conditions.
Sounds more like a list of reasons why he'll win in 3 sets
 

Raul_SJ

Legend
Lol Nadal gonna kick up so much RPM's while lassoing that FH like Fed owes him money :D
Fed is gonna take it early.
:)

“With Rafa, particularly on clay, you have to be aware of his strengths, what he brings to the table. And on top of it, because he's a left-hander, it just changes everything," Federer said.

“I have two days, which I guess is a good thing. It's better than one. It's better than none. So from that standpoint, I get more left-handed practice, more serves and all that stuff.

“Because I guess I have played five guys now that are righties, so for me it's a complete switch-around. Just the way the ball goes out of your strings with the different spins, it's just different. So you have to get used to that quickly. Don't have much time to waste.

“That's why you have to be fearless to some extent to take on the spinny balls, the sliding balls, the kicking balls, and that's what I will do on Friday."
 

Firstservingman

Talk Tennis Guru
Lol Nadal gonna kick up so much RPM's while lassoing that FH like Fed owes him money :D
This is odds-on what will happen. At least nobody will be saying "weak draw" for Nadal with him likely facing both Fed and Djokovic to win this one. If Nadal wins this nobody can say he doesn't deserve it.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Fed is gonna take it early.
:)

“With Rafa, particularly on clay, you have to be aware of his strengths, what he brings to the table. And on top of it, because he's a left-hander, it just changes everything," Federer said.

“I have two days, which I guess is a good thing. It's better than one. It's better than none. So from that standpoint, I get more left-handed practice, more serves and all that stuff.

“Because I guess I have played five guys now that are righties, so for me it's a complete switch-around. Just the way the ball goes out of your strings with the different spins, it's just different. So you have to get used to that quickly. Don't have much time to waste.

“That's why you have to be fearless to some extent to take on the spinny balls, the sliding balls, the kicking balls, and that's what I will do on Friday."
 

Raul_SJ

Legend
You heard it here first. These are the top 10 reasons why:

  1. Roger is full of confidence from his recent victory over a top opponent in Stanimal.
  2. Roger is full of confidence as he has beaten Nadal the last 6 encounters.
  3. Roger now understands what tactics work against Nadal. Whether its hard court or clay, the surface doesn’t matter as much anymore. The tactics should still be effective.
  4. Roger has nothing to lose against Nadal and will play much freer than he ever has at Roland Garros.
  5. Roger will have two full days off which will mean he will have the necessary rest to battle Nadal for 5 sets, if required.
  6. Rafa is not battle tested as he has not had to face anyone worthy of testing him. This will give the first set to Fed.
  7. Rafa is definitely beatable this year on clay and lacks confidence when pushed hard. As evidenced by his losses to Theim, Tsitsipas, and Fognini. In all 3 encounters, Rafa was pushed hard and retreated instead of playing aggressive. He will do this again in the SF.
  8. The Roland Garros balls are much quicker than they were in pre-2015 which will favour Fed.
  9. Phillipe Chatrier during the day plays very much like Rod Laver Arena at night. Almost identical ball bounce conditions, which should give Fed a better chance to drive his backhand cross court.
  10. The weather is supposed to be cloudy and not too hot. These conditions should favour Fed as the ball won’t be as lively (bounce off the court), compared to sunny and hot conditions.
11. Nadal will tank to avoid another Djok beatdown in the final.

:(
 

Cashman

Professional
If the match goes to five sets, Federer ain't winning it.

I think the only time he's even stretched Nadal to five on clay was one of the Rome finals back in the day.
 

EloQuent

G.O.A.T.
If the match goes to five sets, Federer ain't winning it.

I think the only time he's even stretched Nadal to five on clay was one of the Rome finals back in the day.
Actually the H2H in deciding 5th set is 3-3. If he stretches it to 5, it means he's playing well so why assume he'll lose?
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
You heard it here first. These are the top 10 reasons why:

  1. Roger is full of confidence from his recent victory over a top opponent in Stanimal.
  2. Roger is full of confidence as he has beaten Nadal the last 6 encounters.
  3. Roger now understands what tactics work against Nadal. Whether its hard court or clay, the surface doesn’t matter as much anymore. The tactics should still be effective.
  4. Roger has nothing to lose against Nadal and will play much freer than he ever has at Roland Garros.
  5. Roger will have two full days off which will mean he will have the necessary rest to battle Nadal for 5 sets, if required.
  6. Rafa is not battle tested as he has not had to face anyone worthy of testing him. This will give the first set to Fed.
  7. Rafa is definitely beatable this year on clay and lacks confidence when pushed hard. As evidenced by his losses to Theim, Tsitsipas, and Fognini. In all 3 encounters, Rafa was pushed hard and retreated instead of playing aggressive. He will do this again in the SF.
  8. The Roland Garros balls are much quicker than they were in pre-2015 which will favour Fed.
  9. Phillipe Chatrier during the day plays very much like Rod Laver Arena at night. Almost identical ball bounce conditions, which should give Fed a better chance to drive his backhand cross court.
  10. The weather is supposed to be cloudy and not too hot. These conditions should favour Fed as the ball won’t be as lively (bounce off the court), compared to sunny and hot conditions.
I wish but he has zero shot
I am guessing it’s like 6-2.7-5 , 6-1
 

Feather

Legend
Nope, certainly not in RG. Roger Federer will be struggling in the fifth set. In the event of Roger Federer beating Rafa, it would be either in three or four sets.

Or maybe the match should happen over more than a day due to rain.. then maybe Roger can avoid getting totally tired in the fifth set
 

JackGates

Hall of Fame
Actually the H2H in deciding 5th set is 3-3. If he stretches it to 5, it means he's playing well so why assume he'll lose?
Good point and lately Rafa is more suspect in the fifth than Federer. So, if it goes to fifth set, Fed actually has the edge this time. Then Rafa losing all those five sets lately comes into play even on his mind. And then the pressure that he can't lose to Federer.

For some weird reason I agree that if it goes to five that Fed has the edge.
 

JackGates

Hall of Fame
Nope, certainly not in RG. Roger Federer will be struggling in the fifth set. In the event of Roger Federer beating Rafa, it would be either in three or four sets.

Or maybe the match should happen over more than a day due to rain.. then maybe Roger can avoid getting totally tired in the fifth set
This time I have to disagree. Fed's record lately when things are close is almost perfect. Rafa is faulting lately a lot when things get close.
When was the last time Rafa won a deciding set? Fed won almost all of them the past years. Plus Rafa's fitness is not what it used to be either and Fed had easy path to semis, he won't be tired. Plus Fed has worked on his fitness lately too, you don't see him tired in deciding sets any more.
 

Feather

Legend
This time I have to disagree. Fed's record lately when things are close is almost perfect. Rafa is faulting lately a lot when things get close.
When was the last time Rafa won a deciding set? Fed won almost all of them the past years. Plus Rafa's fitness is not what it used to be either and Fed had easy path to semis, he won't be tired. Plus Fed has worked on his fitness lately too, you don't see him tired in deciding sets any more.
Playing five sets at RG is more tiring than playing the same at other Major.
 

Pantera

Banned
I’m picking Thiem to win whole thing
Yep gotta say its all playing into his hands. Damp conditions from here on in and while he prefers hot dry conditions if he faces Nadal in the final damp conditions will be a God send for him.

If he has to play three days in a row he can deal with it...Djokovic wont.
 

The Blond Blur

Professional
Fed has won the last 5 not 6 IW was a walkover not a retirement. 2nd all those matches came almost 2 years ago at this point and they were all on hard courts. They won't mean much for this match. It will be closer than people think, but no way Fed can pull out the W. Nadal didn't play that well leading up to the French, but after winning Rome and maybe even more importantly beating Novak his confidence is much higher. Nadal in 4 or less with at least one tie-breaker.
 

Parabolica

Semi-Pro
Sorry guys but Nadal is nowhere near the level of when he beat Roger all those times on clay. For example, once he is stretched on the forehand, he can no longer consistently hit winners like he used to. Fed can now hit those forehands inside out, come to the net, and no longer fear those crazy forehand winners from Nadal. Look at the 2017 AO final. Nadal just didn't have it. Look at the 2019 AO final. Once he gets pushed, he will cave as he lacks the confidence in big moments. This is no longer the Nadal of old.

I stand by Fed in 5 sets. Since we have doubters, I will even give you the fifth set score. 6-2. Thanks and looking forward to another classic!
 

hipolymer

Hall of Fame
if there are multiple hours delay or maybe even Saturday reschedule then Fed could defo win this in 5 or even 4
 

lidoazndiabloboi

Professional
As one of the biggest Fed fans, I'm realistic, Fed cannot win in 5. If he were to win, its going to be in 3 or 4 sets. He physically cant last long enough to win in a 5th set, especially having no TBs.
If they do get into a 5th set, Rafa will have a much easier time to break Fed than vice versa.
 

dr325i

Legend
Sorry guys but Nadal is nowhere near the level of when he beat Roger all those times on clay. For example, once he is stretched on the forehand, he can no longer consistently hit winners like he used to. Fed can now hit those forehands inside out, come to the net, and no longer fear those crazy forehand winners from Nadal. Look at the 2017 AO final. Nadal just didn't have it. Look at the 2019 AO final. Once he gets pushed, he will cave as he lacks the confidence in big moments. This is no longer the Nadal of old.

I stand by Fed in 5 sets. Since we have doubters, I will even give you the fifth set score. 6-2. Thanks and looking forward to another classic!
Don't be sorry.
Just drink more milk, read more and educate yourself and hopefully you learned a lesson not to embarrass yourself like this again...
I also hope you did not lose any $$ on this confident (and not so accurate) prediction...
 

deaner2211

Semi-Pro
Like it. Now someone may do 10 reasons why nadal will win and your post won’t seem as good.

I like Rogers chances more now in 2019 than I did in 2011 2008 2007 2006. Has a better style to beat nadul now. And nadul is far more attacking these days. If Federer wins on Friday and then beats nadal at Wimbledon again it will make the h2h at the French 5-1 and Wimbledon 4-1. About right I’d say. And it will finally take the 2008 Wimbledon final pain away.
Now that it is French 6-0, how would you feel about 4-2 at Wimbledon?
 
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