FEDERER WILL NEVER SIGN WITH UNIQLO!!!
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mpournaras
Hall of Fame
I dunno its growing on me.
brian anderson
Rookie
fed's agents playing chicken with nike; why would nike pony up if there is no chance that he goes someplace else? classic maneuver
Tennis_Hands
Talk Tennis Guru
Rubens
Hall of Fame
I don't remember creating this thread. But I fully stand by it.Are you high?
Rhino
Legend
With most players I couldn't care less, but I've been wearing and collecting Federer Nike gear for over a decade now and I've really enjoyed it. It has a calming influence on me.
Tennis_Hands
Talk Tennis Guru
Bukowski
Professional
No, if you threw in a kidney, youd have one less, not one more... this math i can do
brinkeguthrie
Professional
The Zen of Fed. The Force is strong with this one. And you know what, I totally agree. Same with the original Borg Fila line. Some looks are just meant to be. Fed in anything but Nike would be like Jordan wearing a White Sox baseball uniform or, even worse, the Washington Wizards.
It's just not proper.
Tennis_Hands
Talk Tennis Guru
rsmith
Rookie
We'll take cash, not credit
McEnroeVsAnnacone
New User
he might leave nike he is all about the cash - which is ok
gino
Hall of Fame
i could use a kidney
Rubens
Hall of Fame
LOL at people talking about the rumored pre-Wimbledon announcement. YEA ****ING RIGHT! This is about as true as this supposed big announcement for today:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkDsKxnF2Fx/
Remember that one? "Stay tuned". L-O-frickin'-L !!!!!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkDsKxnF2Fx/
Remember that one? "Stay tuned". L-O-frickin'-L !!!!!!
NuBas
Legend
I think they were kind of joking and the announcement is for the new pro staff
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
the classic preparation is to sautee in a mustard sauce
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Or with fava beans and a nice chianti.
Tennis_Hands
Talk Tennis Guru
Subway Tennis
Hall of Fame
Fanboy chagrin aside, the best case scenario for humble tennis and Nike fans would be for Federer to leave Nike.
1. We get a fascinating new sports marketing case study to refer to.
2. Nike lets go a big cash commitment, and can offer a slightly lower price point for one of their premier tennis lines.
3. Freed up from having to align with a "graceful" but very rigid RF aesthetic, Nike can spend more time developing a premium tennis line with more scope for creativity and aggressive design and styling.
4. Extra attention could also be paid to the NikeCourt line. Some nice pieces have come out of the rebooted NikeCourt line in the last few years, and they could take it back to its 90s glory.
1. We get a fascinating new sports marketing case study to refer to.
2. Nike lets go a big cash commitment, and can offer a slightly lower price point for one of their premier tennis lines.
3. Freed up from having to align with a "graceful" but very rigid RF aesthetic, Nike can spend more time developing a premium tennis line with more scope for creativity and aggressive design and styling.
4. Extra attention could also be paid to the NikeCourt line. Some nice pieces have come out of the rebooted NikeCourt line in the last few years, and they could take it back to its 90s glory.
joekapa
Legend
Cristiano Ronaldo, has 132m followers on Instgram. Lionel Messi has 96.5m followers.
Federer has 5m followers, Nadal has 5.2m, Djokovic 4m.
Just to put a bit of perspective into people thinking that Federer "deserves" a deal that Jordan or Ronaldo are getting from Nike.
Ronaldo signed a deal with Nike, that can potentially bring him 1 billion in his lifetime. Potentially being the operative word.
It's another thing what Federer THINKS he deserves, and another thing what he deserves.
Rememebr when Agassi said that his father regretted making Andre into a tennis player, because he could of made much more as a baseball player ? He was not wrong.
So my take is that he should take the Uniqlo deal, if the numbers are the ones that are being reported (30m a year for 10 years). Otherwise there is NO WAY, even with his own line, he will be making those sort of numbers.
There is NO WAY the "Federer line", will be the new Lacoste, or Fred Perry, for that matter. Those brands are like Coca Cola, in the fashion world. You think a new "Federer line" will be able to compete. NO WAY.
Federer has 5m followers, Nadal has 5.2m, Djokovic 4m.
Just to put a bit of perspective into people thinking that Federer "deserves" a deal that Jordan or Ronaldo are getting from Nike.
Ronaldo signed a deal with Nike, that can potentially bring him 1 billion in his lifetime. Potentially being the operative word.
You think Federer is worth that much ? Nike are NOT stupid. They have run through the numbers a lot of times, and know marketing, like NOONE else.
It's another thing what Federer THINKS he deserves, and another thing what he deserves.
Rememebr when Agassi said that his father regretted making Andre into a tennis player, because he could of made much more as a baseball player ? He was not wrong.
So my take is that he should take the Uniqlo deal, if the numbers are the ones that are being reported (30m a year for 10 years). Otherwise there is NO WAY, even with his own line, he will be making those sort of numbers.
There is NO WAY the "Federer line", will be the new Lacoste, or Fred Perry, for that matter. Those brands are like Coca Cola, in the fashion world. You think a new "Federer line" will be able to compete. NO WAY.
joekapa
Legend
It's called the cult of personality.
That being said.....there are not many of you around, for Nike to cough up Lebron or Ronaldo type money.....to Federer.
Moonballballer
Semi-Pro
There’s quite a difference between Ronaldo and Federer in terms of how marketable they are though. Ronaldo is mainly for his shoes. How many shoes do amateur players buy? 1 pair per year? Maybe not even?
What do tennis players buy? Youngsters who train a lot buy new pairs of vapors every other month or more. They buy the newest kits for every slam and even Indian Wells or WTF outfits. I’m not saying Federer is as popular as Ronaldo, but tennis is just totally different I think.
What do tennis players buy? Youngsters who train a lot buy new pairs of vapors every other month or more. They buy the newest kits for every slam and even Indian Wells or WTF outfits. I’m not saying Federer is as popular as Ronaldo, but tennis is just totally different I think.
joekapa
Legend
How many youngsters play tennis, and how many play football, and basketball ?
Tennis is an expensive sport. What I see at my club, is that parents buy generally what's on sale. Sure a kid might have a Federer top, here and there, but in no way do you see them everywhere ........Usually a casual t shirt, here and there. No sportswear.
As for footwear.......whatver is on sale, is what you see..
Rhino
Legend
You might need to get a new calculator.
Federer 2018 endorsement earnings: $65M (#1 sponsorships earnings in all of sports 2018)
Lebron 2018 endorsement earnings: $52M
Ronaldo 2018 endorsement earnings: $47M
Messi 2018 endorsement earnings: $27M
Source: Forbes
Moonballballer
Semi-Pro
I’m not saying tennis is as big as football. Basketball I have no idea, I’m from Europe. But what I see is that most kids get the newest stuff from their parents.
My whole point is just that the market is a bit different, so it would make sense for a company like Nike to keep Roger on board forever.
joekapa
Legend
I'm from Europe too. You seeing tennis is bigger than football and basketball in Europe ?
No way.
You saying more kids play/follow tennis than football(soccer) or basketball. No way.
Tell me tha last time you have heard a 10 y.o child say "I need to get home to watch the French/Wimbledon/US/Austyralian open final". But when Real Madrid, Barcelona, World Cup, Champions League, heck even the Basketball Playoffs are on......not a kid in sight. All home watching them.
joekapa
Legend
Yes, yes.....we have seen those figures, but this year is not a given for next year, in tennis.
I have asked this again. If Federer was to receive a lifetime deal with Nike, they would of done it YEARS ago. His legend status has been cemented for a while now. Why haven't they done it yet ? Because simply the NUMBERS don't add up.
Moonballballer
Semi-Pro
Dude you can’t read
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
Nike DOES want to sign him for life - just at a reasonable rate based on market realities as @joekapa is pointing out. Fed, and I’m a big fan, and his team (apparently) are just expecting way too much. Fed is almost retired, doesn’t play very often, has publicly stated he may just drive the kids to school and for ice cream when he does retire- not the kind of guy a business is going to pay a huge amount to.
To the poster above that thinks Nike will drop prices if they do cut ties w Fed - good luck with that.
joekapa
Legend
OK. Whatever you say.
My question(s) to you, seen as you think that Nike should sign a lifetime deal with Federer.
1) Why haven't they already, seen as his legend status has been cemented for years now ?
2) If Ronaldo, Lebron, Messi have signed billion dollar lifetime deals with Nike, and Adidas, how much do you think Federer would be worth ?
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joekapa
Legend
I said earlier that Federer would not get HALF of what Ronald, Lebron, or Messi are getting. Strike that. He will not even get a third of that.....over a lifetime.
Tennis is simply NOT AS POPULAR, and doesn't have a large enough market base.
Also, if this "Federer line" continues to be developed, who is the main competition ? Lacoste, Fred Perry, Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hillfinger. Each of those brands are the coca-cola, pepsi's of the fashion world. Trying to crack them, would be like cracking a granite rock, with a toothpick.
Bobby Jr
G.O.A.T.
We don't know this at all though, only what random posters here have said. If I've said it 50 times on this board it wont have been enough: these deals never get done with public knowledge and by the time we find out about them they have probably been in discussion for six months, if not more.
For all we know he's signing/signed a global deal to be the face of UNIQLO for their brand but he'll continue to wear Nike for tennis. It's not so absurd.. Nadal got a deal with an underwear company and other players have also had deals with Hugo Boss and other fashion brands etc over the years. We wont know till we know.
I think this should be clarified to: not the kind of guys a sportswear business...
For a deal with a company like UNIQLO to be their global face it wouldn't matter one bit if he was retired. In fact some athletes' aura/legend grows when they retire: Jordan, Maradonna...
joekapa
Legend
Agreed. Yes UNIQLO is the type of company that will pay big bucks to Federer. He should take the deal.
But no I don't think it will not be for his remaining days in tennis though. He will wear their apparel, if the deal goes through. Like Novak's......obviously for more money.
VaporDude95
Banned
Welp.
Federer signed with Uniqlo
Federer signed with Uniqlo
