Federer will win AO 2020 or Wimb 2020

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
Federer has often stated that he will continue to play professionally while he has the opportunity to play on the big courts in front of the big crowds.

That does not require him winning all the Tournaments. If he continues to play in front of big crowds he will probably continue to play for as long as his body holds up.

I mean, REAL Federer fans don't care if their idol wins or loses? Do They? :-D:-D:-D

(I haven't seen Laver play for 40 years. I haven't seen Borg play for 30 years. They are still my favourite players. Wonder if the Fed fanatics will feel the same way about Fed. when he finally retires and all of the records he set fall to other players.)
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
But considering they all play for the slams now, can you say the AO 19 or USO 18 and 19 were acceptable losses? Along with Wimby 18.
2 QF and 2 4R. 2 in 5 sets with MP and the other 2 in 4 sets with a slew of tiebreakers .

Par for 37-38 year old

You cannot compare with players 5-6 years younger
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
I mean, REAL Federer fans don't care if their idol wins or loses? Do They? :-D:-D:-D
The worst of Federer's fans cannot endure a period where he no longer wins majors. His winning is tied to their turning him into their false idol, so to this faction, he can only be that tin god if he wins more and is gifted a GOAT title that does not belong to him.

(I haven't seen Laver play for 40 years. I haven't seen Borg play for 30 years. They are still my favourite players. Wonder if the Fed fanatics will feel the same way about Fed. when he finally retires and all of the records he set fall to other players.)
No need to wait: several threads have been created to either protect Federer's future by downgrading the achievement of others, move the goalposts of their once hammered criteria for GOAT-hood (majors count) because Nadal might pass him, or they are already sacking the entire sport by claiming "tennis am dead" or "tennis me not good anymore!"
Collectively, its designed to live in the netherworld of Federer of years past (before Nadal and Djokovic became a threat to him), or bury the sport right now so in their minds, nothing will ever erase what they believe is his current status.
 

Rickenbacker4003

Hall of Fame
Pro ... this is why you guys get a lot of flak. Just what is wrong with winning the FO multiple times? FO & Wimbledon winners get equal points so Wimbledon isn't in any way a superior slam. You folks have to got to stop with trying to belittle FO winners and then wonder why you're getting attacked. Every slam is just as important as the other.
They belittle the FO because Federer can't win it without facing Rafa. Federer won Wimby 8 times so therefore it's the preferred major of the Fedfan. Nadal won the FO 12 times so it can't be that hard because he won it 12 times. Fedfan logic in TTW. Sampras won 7 Wimbledons and Fed won 8 Wimbledons. Those count. Nadal won the French Open 12 times, but that doesn't count. Fedfan logic.
 

swordtennis

Legend
AO is possible if djokovic is not fully fit. If djokovic starts to get fit around the french then he is going to be seething by wimbledon. It is a pattern seen before.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
I mean, REAL Federer fans don't care if their idol wins or loses? Do They? :-D:-D:-D

(I haven't seen Laver play for 40 years. I haven't seen Borg play for 30 years. They are still my favourite players. Wonder if the Fed fanatics will feel the same way about Fed. when he finally retires and all of the records he set fall to other players.)
Why are you are you determining who REAL Fed fans are? I haven't seen Lendl play since 1994 and he's still my favorite player. He has 8 slams and couldn't care less if he had 2 or 40, it's extraneous from the interest in him. I started rooting for Fed in 2000 when he was an acne-ridden teen with a ponytail and had won nothing. All of this is projecting: I don't know or care who you root for, but obviously you're into them solely for the records they may set and to pillory the guy who has more. If Fed loses the slam record, I will still always adore him. Why would it occur to anyone not to continue fandom after their player retire or lose records? The concept is inane and borne of massive insecurity.
 
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Zebrev

Hall of Fame
Federer will have a good year in 2020. Is has the best consistency by far health-wise of any big 3 member.

I also think he takes off clay next year, and mounts 2 major pushes for 21 at Auzzie and Wimby.

If he can win a masters or WTF with what remains of the year, he'll have some positive momentum.

I don't think Novak will come back to the tour in God mode, it will take a while at least to readjust. I also don't trust Nadal to have 2 years back to back of consistency, since that hasn't happened forever.

Roger is the best positioned.
 

DSH

Hall of Fame
Federer will have a good year in 2020. Is has the best consistency by far health-wise of any big 3 member.

I also think he takes off clay next year, and mounts 2 major pushes for 21 at Auzzie and Wimby.

If he can win a masters or WTF with what remains of the year, he'll have some positive momentum.

I don't think Novak will come back to the tour in God mode, it will take a while at least to readjust. I also don't trust Nadal to have 2 years back to back of consistency, since that hasn't happened forever.

Roger is the best positioned.
You should change your avatar!
Where is your love for Zverev?
:censored:
 

weakera

Hall of Fame
Federer will have a good year in 2020. Is has the best consistency by far health-wise of any big 3 member.

I also think he takes off clay next year, and mounts 2 major pushes for 21 at Auzzie and Wimby.

If he can win a masters or WTF with what remains of the year, he'll have some positive momentum.

I don't think Novak will come back to the tour in God mode, it will take a while at least to readjust. I also don't trust Nadal to have 2 years back to back of consistency, since that hasn't happened forever.

Roger is the best positioned.

He's going on 4 years of consistency, actually

 

mike danny

Talk Tennis Guru
The worst of Federer's fans cannot endure a period where he no longer wins majors. His winning is tied to their turning him into their false idol, so to this faction, he can only be that tin god if he wins more and is gifted a GOAT title that does not belong to him.



No need to wait: several threads have been created to either protect Federer's future by downgrading the achievement of others, move the goalposts of their once hammered criteria for GOAT-hood (majors count) because Nadal might pass him, or they are already sacking the entire sport by claiming "tennis am dead" or "tennis me not good anymore!"
Collectively, its designed to live in the netherworld of Federer of years past (before Nadal and Djokovic became a threat to him), or bury the sport right now so in their minds, nothing will ever erase what they believe is his current status.
What exactly do you know about being a Fed fan and why on Earth do you speak on their behalf? Fed fans were with him during 2013-2016, where he didn't win any major and when we weren't sure he would be able to play competitively again after the long layoff.

Do you even watch the ATP tour? Because you post all kinds of **** in the WTA threads about how dead ATP is right now, with the same "3 granddaddies" ruling everything. Yet here you are, posting on ATP threads only to hate on Fed, saying that Fed fans claim the tennis to be dead. :sick:

If you had read any of those threads, people are complaining about the style of tennis nowadays, not the fact that Fed might be surpassed. And in WTA threads you fiercely defend one-time fluke slam winners like Ostapenko, saying that slams are everything, while coming here and downgrading in all possible ways the 20 slams of Federer.

Your double standards are just :sick:
 

Sunny Ali

Hall of Fame
They belittle the FO because Federer can't win it without facing Rafa. Federer won Wimby 8 times so therefore it's the preferred major of the Fedfan. Nadal won the FO 12 times so it can't be that hard because he won it 12 times. Fedfan logic in TTW. Sampras won 7 Wimbledons and Fed won 8 Wimbledons. Those count. Nadal won the French Open 12 times, but that doesn't count. Fedfan logic.
LOL Rick, it's all very silly. 8 Wimbeldon titles is a jaw dropping achievement.

12 French Open titles? I don't know if there's a word that can describe that. It's a record that will likely stand for decades and he's not even done there yet o_O Nadal essentially ensured that for much of his playing career, the whole tour was competing for 3 slams, not 4 :oops:
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
What exactly do you know about being a Fed fan and why on Earth do you speak on their behalf?
Not only do I personally know Federer fans, but the worst of his fanbase who are also TTW warehouse members are a living lab of obsession and hatred for anything not propping up their false idol. That's how I know, junior.

Do you even watch the ATP tour?
Longer than your Fed-defensive butt has been alive, kid.

Because you post all kinds of **** in the WTA threads about how dead ATP is right now, with the same "3 granddaddies" ruling everything. Yet here you are, posting on ATP threads only to hate on Fed, saying that Fed fans claim the tennis to be dead. :sick:
How many "tennis is dead" type posts and threads popped up after Djokovic defeated Federer at Wimbledon? How many posted threads attacking Djokovic's personal life in some idiotic attempt to downgrade him because they were ass-hurt by his defeat of Federer? I doubt you will ever answer that with an ounce of honesty.

If you had read any of those threads, people are complaining about the style of tennis nowadays, not the fact that Fed might be surpassed.
Bull. They were fearmongering before the Wimbledon final, then and hating on Djokovic after said final and now after the USO about Nadal--all happened for the "crime" of "threatening" Federer's majors count. You can live in a fantasy world where the worst of his fanbase did not and continue to engage in that "protection" of their false idol, but everyone else sees the truth, and its there to see in all of those threads.

And in WTA threads you fiercely defend one-time fluke slam winners like Ostapenko, saying that slams are everything, while coming here and downgrading in all possible ways the 20 slams of Federer.
No, I compare the strength of the WTA in having more than three people capable or winning majors. The ATP does not, with the typically overrated Can't Win A Major Legion (Thiem, Nishikori, Kyrgios, Isner, Dimitrov, Simon, Pospisil, Tomic, Querry, et al), all praised to the skies on this board, yet as of this date, their greatest strength is showing up to stumble, roll over, then collect a check,. Yet you reveal your disdain for women who did their job and won a major, (saying Ostapenko's win was a fluke when her career is far from over) while saying exactly what about the aforementioned Legion of overrated ATP losers?

Yeah. Talk about your double standards and agenda.
 
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theEndgame

New User
federer should retire whilst he has the slam lead, but he's probably going to retire as 2nd or 3rd on the slam count, geez that will hurt after many years of thinking you are the greatest :giggle:
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
2 QF and 2 4R. 2 in 5 sets with MP and the other 2 in 4 sets with a slew of tiebreakers .

Par for 37-38 year old

You cannot compare with players 5-6 years younger
Im not comparing to anyone. Its you who claims hes in with a shot of the next slam, even though hes not even been close to a slam in years, apart from Wimbledon.
His age isn't relevant. I would say the same, that he had no chance, if he was 23 with the same results the past 2 years.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Im not comparing to anyone. Its you who claims hes in with a shot of the next slam, even though hes not even been close to a slam in years, apart from Wimbledon.
His age isn't relevant. I would say the same, that he had no chance, if he was 23 with the same results the past 2 years.
He won 2017 and 2018 AO. He won 2017 Wimb, lost holding MP in 2018 and 2019 Wimb.

He definitely has a chance . If Novak is off form or injured, he has lots of chances and is among the top favorites.
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
He won 2017 and 2018 AO. He won 2017 Wimb, lost holding MP in 2018 and 2019 Wimb.

He definitely has a chance . If Novak is off form or injured, he has lots of chances and is among the top favorites.
But haven't we all said this before? He cant even reach Novak. Its other guys hes losing to.
He was supposed to be a lock in for the USO there once Novak lost, and he loses to his pigeon.
That is surely unacceptable for Feds fans.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
But haven't we all said this before? He cant even reach Novak. Its other guys hes losing to.
He was supposed to be a lock in for the USO there once Novak lost, and he loses to his pigeon.
That is surely unacceptable for Feds fans.
He was one point from winning the previous major. So to say that he has no chance to win a major is idiotic.
 
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