Federer Withdraws from French Open

Livedeath

Professional
A prudent decision by Fed, albeit clay would be more forgiving for the knees, but if he had played, he wont have much left in tank to handle rest of the year.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Some guys are here are clueless. They really believe it's 2007 again and only Rafa can beat Roger at RG.

News flash! Gulbis, Tsonga and Stan can do it too.
 

Sartorius

Hall of Fame
A prudent decision by Fed, albeit clay would be more forgiving for the knees, but if he had played, he wont have much left in tank to handle rest of the year.
Actually Fed and his team suggested before that was not the case last year, apparently the knees felt wobbly on clay even though he played very few matches.
 

Rosstour

Hall of Fame
Luthi said Federer didn't take Nadal's recent play -- or anyone else's -- into account as he weighed his options.

"It's really more a decision about him than the others," Luthi said. "It would be a mistake to look at them too much."



Oh please! If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. Of course he took "other" players into consideration and he made a wise choice. Keep the mental edge over Nadal and wait until you get onto the grass and hc where you have a good chance. At the FO he has an almost zero chance to beat an in form Nadal assuming he would get to Nadal in the first place.
Oh so NOW you can imagine there is more to a story, after crapping in every discussion of Pepe and Djoker? LOL
 

babbette

Legend
You mistake H2H for dominance. Dominance is winning big tournaments from start till end of the year, instead of showing up for two months in a year.
What in heavens name are you *******s talking about when you mention Rafa hiding? Isn't he one of the players where they state his calendar has always been ridiculous? Please elaborate i've been out of the loop on TT idiocy :eek:

 
Z

Zara

Guest
Some guys are here are clueless. They really believe it's 2007 again and only Rafa can beat Roger at RG.

News flash! Gulbis, Tsonga and Stan can do it too.
Of course it's not only Nadal who can beat Federer at RG these days - a number of guys out there have the ability to do so. But this year, other than Thiem, no one is looking quite convincing. But then again, we can't really predict upsets quite accurately when it comes to Slams. And it's not a sure thing for Nadal either. If I were a Nadal fan, I'd keep it down until the moment is achieved.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Oh so NOW you can imagine there is more to a story, after crapping in every discussion of Pepe and Djoker? LOL
I'm trying to be realistic in both cases. In my mind there is no way that along with injuring himself on the clay and risking his chance at W and the USO that Nadal and his current clay form and all of the past heartbreak on clay v Nadal was not given a single thought in Federer's decision to skip the FO. And there's nothing wrong with Federer at his age thinking that. I would question his sanity if he didn't think about it.

Just as there's no way that Pepe is controlling the mind of one of the greatest players in the game. He's just Djokovic's lackey and has been with Djokovic for years including when Djokovic was winning everything in sight. To blame some lackey for Djokovic's problems is beyond stupid IMO. What's going on with Djokovic is some burnout which is completely normal at his age and after all he's achieved. He'll likely settle down and figure things out to some extent eventually. I'm sure we'll hear about some new coaching arrangement soon.
 

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
I'm trying to be realistic in both cases. In my mind there is no way that along with injuring himself on the clay and risking his chance at W and the USO that Nadal and his current clay form and all of the past heartbreak on clay v Nadal was not given a single thought in Federer's decision to skip the FO. And there's nothing wrong with Federer at his age thinking that. I would question his sanity if he didn't think about it.
Actually you have a point. I hadn't given it a thought before but Nadal has skipped WTF too many times even after qualifying. It must be to avoid the repeated humiliation of not being able to win a top 8 only tournament sans cake draws on a surface where he sucks & Fed/Djoker have the edge (while also avoiding any injury risk.)
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Actually you have a point. I hadn't given it a thought before but Nadal has skipped WTF too many times even after qualifying. It must be to avoid the repeated humiliation of not being able to win a top 8 only tournament sans cake draws on a surface where he sucks & Fed/Djoker have the edge (while also avoiding any injury risk.)
Absolutely. Look, my only point is that for me it's not possible that a player wouldn't think about his biggest rival on a surface that he's relatively weaker on and newsflash, it's ok if he does!
 

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
Absolutely. Look, my only point is that for me it's not possible that a player wouldn't think about his biggest rival on a surface that he's relatively weaker on and newsflash, it's ok if he does!
You should also know that Federer practiced on clay with two junior players on Sunday before he made the announcement.
When he already had the most critical information on Nadal's form by then, I don't know why he'd go to all that lengths to set up a hit on clay flying in these two players to see how his knee feels on clay before he made the announcement. The guy must be just senile.
 

ricki

Hall of Fame
Incoming BAN for skipping mandatory Masters? Shoul get banned. Period. If everyone did such tennis would get riuned.
 

Tennisanity

Legend
You should also know that Federer practiced on clay with two junior players on Sunday before he made the announcement.
When he already had the most critical information on Nadal's form by then, I don't know why he'd go to all that lengths to set up a hit on clay flying in these two players to see how his knee feels on clay before he made the announcement. The guy must be just senile.
Don't entertain the dullards. Some people think they are much smarter than they are.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
You should also know that Federer practiced on clay with two junior players on Sunday before he made the announcement.
When he already had the most critical information on Nadal's form by then, I don't know why he'd go to all that lengths to set up a hit on clay flying in these two players to see how his knee feels on clay before he made the announcement. The guy must be just senile.
Yep, I saw the pic with the 18 year olds and Luthi on the clay court just the day before and that is how I knew he was not feeling good on clay. Rafa had already won MC, Barcelona and Madrid . What was Fed thinking ?
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
You should also know that Federer practiced on clay with two junior players on Sunday before he made the announcement.
When he already had the most critical information on Nadal's form by then, I don't know why he'd go to all that lengths to set up a hit on clay flying in these two players to see how his knee feels on clay before he made the announcement. The guy must be just senile.
All I said was that Nadal's form on clay had to have been "ONE" of the factors in Fed's decision. I didn't say it was the only factor.

This reaction from some Fed fans is bizarre if you ask me. You can't even mention Nadal in a sentence with respect to Federer before some of Federer's fans start to lose their minds. In a way, I hope Nadal does really well past the clay court season to humble some of these crazier Fed fans but the problem with that is that the looniest Nadal fans will appear like vultures if that happens. You can't win on this forum.

All I know is that Federer or Nadal winning is better than seeing Murrovic finals IMO.
 

AceSalvo

Legend
Some naive people want to mention Nadal as one of the factors Fed skipped FO as if Nadal is the only threat. Fed's form on clay was always subpar and these folks expected him to play without any prep.

Fed after Miami: I am not playing any clay except RG if at all

Fed 2 weeks ago: My intention is to play

The writing was always on the wall. :rolleyes: So many poasts about nothing.
 
Some naive people want to mention Nadal as one of the factors Fed skipped FO as if Nadal is the only threat. Fed's form on clay was always subpar and these folks expected him to play without any prep.

Fed after Miami: I am not playing any clay except RG if at all

Fed 2 weeks ago: My intention is to play

The writing was always on the wall. :rolleyes: So many poasts about nothing.
Federer skipped the French open because he knows he can't win it but Nadal's form right now is pretty intimidating
 

merwy

Legend
Some guys are here are clueless. They really believe it's 2007 again and only Rafa can beat Roger at RG.

News flash! Gulbis, Tsonga and Stan can do it too.
But many people said that 2017 Fed > 2006 Fed. If that were true he should have a shot at RG. People should be consistent in what they say and not shift back and forth between "Fed is a 60-year old grandpa" and "Fed is better than ever now" whenever it suits them.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
But many people said that 2017 Fed > 2006 Fed. If that were true he should have a shot at RG. People should be consistent in what they say and not shift back and forth between "Fed is a 60-year old grandpa" and "Fed is better than ever now" whenever it suits them.
Those people are obviously wrong.
 
Confirmed on his website.

http://www.rogerfederer.com/index.php/news/61-roger-to-skip-roland-garros-will-focus-on-the-grass-hardcourt-season

He has officially skipped the entire 2017 clay season.

Dear Fans,

Regrettably, I've decided not to participate in the French Open. I've been working really hard, both on and off the court, during the last month but in order to try and play on the ATP World Tour for many years to come, I feel it's best to skip the clay court season this year and prepare for the grass and hard court seasons. The start to the year has been magical for me but I need to recognize that scheduling will be the key to my longevity moving forward. Thus, my team and I concluded today that playing just one event on clay was not in the best interest of my tennis and physical preparation for the remainder of the season. I will miss the French fans, who have always been so supportive and I look forward to seeing them at Roland Garros next year.

Roger


Smart move by the GOAT.

Start practicing now on grass and destroy the field.
 
Federer "doing a Nadal" and ducking him on clay like Nadal did post Wimbledon pre WTF every year apart from 2013.
Very funny considering Nadal cleaned out all the hardcourt season in 2013

Apparently Federer is weak minded for skipping FO due to the nadal complex according to many people ?

Must say it sounds fairly logical
 

Krish872007

G.O.A.T.
Last post on this topic and we will end things there. If anyone knows Rog better than Severin Luthi I'd be very interested to have a discussion on this.

Rafael Nadal 'not part of decision-making' says Roger Federer's coach about Swiss ace missing French Open

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/rafael-nadal-not-part-decision-making-says-roger-federers-coach-about-swiss-ace-missing-french-1622156

The 18-time Grand Slam champion has made a strong start to the 2017 season, winning three of the four tournaments he has played. But made it clear that his main goal is to remain fit for the entire campaign, and not overload his schedule with tournaments and chase the top ranking, which will still be possible if he wins Wimbledon or the US Open, which are Federer's main targets after capturing the Australian Open crown in January.

"Yeah, but I think it's important you more look at it from your own side," Luthi was quoted as saying by Tennis World USA. "Roger, if he's playing a tournament, in my eyes, he's always able to win it and beat anyone on any surface."

"And on the other side, for me, even if Rafa is the big favorite in Paris, you never know what is going to happen. He could lose early or be injured or sick, so how Rafa was playing on clay, that was not really part of the decision-making," Federer's long-time coach explained.

"The goal is to keep on playing ultimately for many more years on tour. This is more an investment for the future. For me, the most important thing is that he's healthy, which is the case now and for the last few weeks and months," he added.
 

Nadal_Django

Hall of Fame
The world must be a barren and lifeless place for the Fed haters these days. It'll get even worse for them come grass season!
Lol. It's funny because 90% of the Fedlovers act like Federer already has 2017 Wimbledon safely in his bag. Imagine if Federer actually lose in 1/4 or 1/2 finals to some streaky player like Cilic or huge server like Raonic. The ruins would be spectacular. :D
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
But many people said that 2017 Fed > 2006 Fed. If that were true he should have a shot at RG. People should be consistent in what they say and not shift back and forth between "Fed is a 60-year old grandpa" and "Fed is better than ever now" whenever it suits them.
People are consistent, you're talking about two very different groups of people and equating them for some reason. In case you haven't noticed, Fed fans aren't the ones preaching the "2017 Fed > 2006 Fed" nonsense (it's other fan groups and media people) and most of them are well aware he had next to no shot at the FO this year precisely because his movement, transition from defense to offense, stamina and recovery time are far cry from his peak days.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Very funny considering Nadal cleaned out all the hardcourt season in 2013

Apparently Federer is weak minded for skipping FO due to the nadal complex according to many people ?

Must say it sounds fairly logical
No, he didn't, but that's not the point.

The poster to whom you were replying wasn't wrong. Nadal has played Federer very little post RG.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Lol. It's funny because 90% of the Fedlovers act like Federer already has 2017 Wimbledon safely in his bag. Imagine if Federer actually lose in 1/4 or 1/2 finals to some streaky player like Cilic or huge server like Raonic. The ruins would be spectacular. :D
Say what? The majority of the Fed fans don't consider Wimb a certainty.

It's actually 90% of Nadal fans consider RG a certainty.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
No, he didn't, but that's not the point.

The poster to whom you were replying wasn't wrong. Nadal has played Federer very little post RG.
Yup, less than a 3d of their matches came post RG where Fed leads 8-3, with 2 of those Nadal wins coming in 2013 (one of Fed's worst career years and the only year in which Nadal won Canada-Cincy-USO triple).
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Yup, less than a 3d of their matches came post RG where Fed leads 8-3, with 2 of those Nadal wins coming in 2013 (one of Fed's worst career years and the only year in which Nadal won Canada-Cincy-USO triple).
Of course, Nadal couldn't return the favor in 2015 at Cincy.

And just for the sake of it, 2015 IW and 2015 Cincy would have most likely been Fed wins.
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
Very funny considering Nadal cleaned out all the hardcourt season in 2013

Apparently Federer is weak minded for skipping FO due to the nadal complex according to many people ?

Must say it sounds fairly logical
Yeah I mention 2013 in my post. Very funny also considering that was Federer's worst ever year since like 2000.
 

The_18th_Slam

Hall of Fame
He said within ten minutes of beating Nadal in Miami that he wouldn't play clay tune-ups but he was undecided about the FO until the last minute. If you honestly think that Nadal's current clay form had no part whatsoever in the decision, you are further gone as a Fed fanatic that I can hope to understand. It had to have been a part of his decision no matter how small and there's nothing wrong with that. He wants to try and remain injury free and keep the mental edge over Nadal for when they play off clay. That's smart. And no, he wouldn't be happy with making a QF at any slam.
Are you a bipolar idiot? In the same thread you defend your right to have an opinion about Federer's considerations, you call people fanatics and "further gone" for having a different opinion. And this isn't the first time you've acted this way. If people are fanatics for having a different opinion to yours (for perfectly valid reasons, no less), you're an idiot for pretending to be privy to Federer's thoughts.
 

Hitman's Gurl

Professional
I am still very happy that I do not have to sit through another Fedal match at RG. I never wanted him to play RG. His goal is Wimbledon. Not YE1. He needs to win that 19th slam. I don't care if Rafa was part of his decision making or not. I just know deep down he made the right choice. And Rafa can meet him on those nice fast courts post RG if he really badly needs a win. ;)
 

sarmpas

Hall of Fame
Lol. It's funny because 90% of the Fedlovers act like Federer already has 2017 Wimbledon safely in his bag. Imagine if Federer actually lose in 1/4 or 1/2 finals to some streaky player like Cilic or huge server like Raonic. The ruins would be spectacular. :D
For me it wouldn't ruin anything. The Aus Open final smacked the smugness from a lot of people's faces. They're still sore now. Most rational Fed fans at best hoped he'd win another slam but didn't think he would, the heart hoped but the mind said no so the win was a totally unexpected delight.
 

MasturB

Legend
I think Fed will play some clay tourneys next year. I think it's unlikely he defends AO, IW, and MIA all 3. Maybe he defends one of the two masters. But he will have a significant point drop off and that will be perfect time to makeup for it by playing 1-2 clay tourneys.

I think Fed really wants to go for Wimby this year and this may be his best chance to do it before the Thiem/Zverev group starts putting up a fight for it. So if he wins Wimby this year he further separates himself from Ralph and has leeway to play clay next year.
 

ultradr

Legend
Then again, if Rafa completely retired, never recovering 2014 injury, I don't think Federer would have been playing now.

Federer's still playing because his open era slam record is not safe at all.
And he wants to be the guy who won Wimbledon the most, like Rafa at RG.

I do not believe Federer's career decision has nothing to do with Rafa. I don't believe it at all.
 
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