Federer's blacked out frame

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  1. Nostradamus

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    he is hoping he can win the aussie open with that new frame ? not likely but it is ok to hope
     
  2. sportsfan1

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    That's probably it for the fling with the 98.
     
  3. Nostradamus

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    No, he said he will test more rackets after the Open. more likely will test more 95's and perhaps more flexible versions of 98 to find some control on his forehand.
     
  4. sureshs

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    Let us not get carried away by a win over CoolSchreiber, and potentially over other one-handers like Haas or Baby Fed. The real test is waiting and you know who that is.
     
  5. Nostradamus

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    Test, how is that a test ? he is going to lose to Nadal or Novak anyway. Roger is no longer in that top 3 tier league of tennis anymore. We all know this. but everybody in this forum is hoping he can just get a little edge with the new frame but Roger is having tough time adjusting and finding that perfect spec very difficult.
     
  6. BreakPoint

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    With the bigger racquet, Federer couldn't even get past Brands nor Delbonis. Both Haas and Dimitrov are much higher ranked players.
     
  7. Vcore89

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    No more proto for now for Fed, he's going back to his 90 sq. in. racquet, whew, for a fleeting moment I thought he'd be inclined to make the switch to a BarbieESQUE racquet!:)

    He's officially done testing with the blacked out frame and says he'll do some testing some other time. Translation, goodbye BarbieESQUE Wilson racquets.:)
     
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  8. JoelDali

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    Several of the 3.0 Raquet geeks at my country club predicted Rogi would go back to the 90. Once again Basalt injections are the defining moment of clarity. Fedace was right the whole time.
     
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  10. Nostradamus

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    So does this pretty much debunk the theory that top players can play with anything ? Martina Hingis once said top pros can play with wood or any other rackets and have same results.
     
  11. Vcore89

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    The Swiss Miss, with her cunning and craftiness can surely handle anyone in her day. Of course she is not going to walk on water when she is wielding a 65 wood against someone lugging a Barbie.;-)

    And, Rog has proven he's able to do so with a less-is-more racquet. Like a knife cutting a sequioa instead of an axe.
     
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    Nadal, Murray, Djokovic? Heck, he aint making it that far, he'll regret going back to the 90 after he gets rickrolled by Haas
     
  13. kalyan4fedever

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    Fed needs to get his head straight, switching racquets so easy might hurt his chances at cincinatti and USO..Feds 98 wasnt the -problem it was his back in the previous two losses, and 98 generated more power which he needs more than anything now !
     
  14. heninfan99

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    He should switch to an 85".
     
  15. sureshs

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    The greater power was useful when his back was hurting. So he can have 2 frames - one for injury and one for healthy conditions. And may be for type of opponent. Like Coolschreiber = 90 will do. Nadal = 98 to survive.
     
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    What's funny is, you guys think Fed doesn't know what he is doing. He tried it, didn't work. I mean come on, you know he has been asking every person he's practicing with how the ball feels when hitting with them. He going back to the other racquet for one reason, it gives him the best chance to win right now. He has a limited amount of slams he still has a legimate chance of winning. If you were playing for your life tonight, would you take out a new racquet, or your trusty old light sabre:)
     
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    4.0 Talk Tennis Raquet technicians know what fed needs more than fed himself.
     
  19. sureshs

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    That is because even 3.5 posters can serve at 135 mph, which Fed seldom does.
     
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    What does a stock racket have to do with a totally customized frame? It has a weight advantage over most frames. The volkl mids when weighted/balanced equally are smoother, more foregiving. They are more aero and swing more freely than the abortion that is box beam even with the bigger footprint. Corners are a structural weakness, and it plays that way with a laughable rdc that plays nowhere near what it specs at.
     
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    i think long term the larger racket still might be the right idea. he needs power, which he could also produce just by hitting out more. when you watch his old matches he simply went after it more often. of course he was quicker and it all goes hand in hand, but still, when it comes to giving himself a chance against the top 3, i'd like to see him just roll the dice more often and take a few bigger cuts, more often. aggression's a habit like anything else.
     
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    So what happens if he wins the us open and all the grand slams next year for 5 in a row? Will all 98 sq in frames on the planet implode?
     
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    I don't know why people insist to argue with Fedace...
     
  25. BreakPoint

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    Federer just beat Haas this year with his 90 only 2 months ago, so if he loses, why would it be the racquet's fault? :confused:
     
  26. sundaypunch

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    He should use whatever racquet will allow him to stop having to chip back almost every BH return of serve.
     
  27. BreakPoint

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    There's no such racquet because it's not the racquet doing it, it's how he plays the game. Nothing wrong with chipping back returns if you can get it really deep or really short and also follow it up into the net once in a while.
     
  28. samster

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    Fed's experiment with the MID-PLUS is over.

    Fed has gone back to his PS 90. I saw him last night and at practice today in Cincinnati.
     
  29. Nostradamus

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    Not over. Federer said after the match, he will resume testing bigger head models from Wilson After the US open is over with. he is hoping he will find one he likes and get used to it by the Aussie open rolls around.
     
  30. BreakPoint

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    Is he assuming he's not making the WTF this year?
     
  31. Nostradamus

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    He probably doesn't care if he lost every match in that round robin with the test frame. but I am sure he is hoping he would be playing great with it and win the event. then he will really have something special for the Aussie open.
     
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    As with everyone else on this board. Try to keep up with ya. :twisted:
     
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    The quote from Federer that "right now I need to simplify everything" and "I have too many things on my plate right now" is very interesting. I interpret this to mean that his back problem or some other injury is his experiencing right now is actually a big problem.

    Even though the score of his match against Kohlschreiber suggests that he won fairly comfortably, he did not play well; there was something wrong with his movement. He also looked like he was in pain throughout the match.

    I think Federer's move back to the 90 is a result of whatever this injury is more than anything. It would be too much to switch frames if he is struggling just to get through matches as it is.
     
  36. JGads

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    Not really. Fed said after today's match that he's going back to testing new frames in the weeks after the Open. Also mentioned that the back was enough of an issue in the clay events that he didn't really give it a proper chance.

    Perhaps he should break into Dimitrov's locker and grab some of those 93s.
     
  37. BreakPoint

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    Federer also said in that interview that he's always testing plenty of racquets over the years.

    Well, we see that so far, he still hasn't changed from his Tour 90. :)

    BTW, he tested Dimitrov's 93 years ago and passed on it. Wilson originally made it for Federer but he didn't like it.
     
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    Would have been fun to see how the bigger frame played out on the hard court, and especially on the high backhand vs Rafa. Unfortunately, the way they're playing at the moment, it'll probably just be more relentless backhand peppering and a routine Rafa win.
     
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    Agreed feds gonna get rocked by nadal especially with the way fed is playing as he struggled with haas. Straight set victory for nadal.
     
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    Spoke to a guy today about Feds black frame. He was saying it was the "original" h22 mold that is also being used by Gulbis currently. Upon inspection, federers and gulbis racket do look identical. Interesting..
     
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    Is he getting back to changing to a 98 now that Us open is over?
     
  43. Nostradamus

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    YES, he will be testing several new models too, not just that one he's been using. He will likely play with them in coming China tournaments.
    Lets all cross our fingers and hope Roger finds that Perfect racket that works for him and comes back and win the Aussie open
     
  44. LafayetteHitter

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    Word is he's going with a WEED? LMAO
     
  45. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    BS, he needs moar powah. He's going with the Gamma Big Bubba.
     
  46. SwankPeRFection

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    You're dead on man! The large spacing outside of the main 8 is the dead giveaway. This is exactly the same stick Fed was messing around with. Even the space right above the handle in the throat is the larger design like the 90's are where you can put your index into and helicopter the thing.

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  47. m2nk2

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    He's still using his old one right? Maybe he'll make the switch in the off season when he's playing all the expos.
     
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    This stick is going to blow everything else out of the water.
     

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