Federer's provisional 2021 schedule

UnforcedTerror

UnforcedTerror

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MARCH
Qatar ExxonMobil Open, Doha (March 8 – 13)
Dubai Duty Free Tennis Championships, UAE (March 14 – 20)

APRIL & MAY
Madrid Open, Spain (April 30 – May 9)
Internazionali BNL d’Italia, Rome (May 9 – 16)
Roland Garros, Paris (May 17 – June 6)

JUNE & JULY
Noventi Open, Halle (June 14 – 20)
Wimbledon (June 28 – July 11)
Olympic Games, Tokyo (July 24 – 30)

AUGUST
Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati (August 14 – 22)
US Open, New York (August 30 – September 12)

SEPTEMBER
Laver Cup, Boston, USA (September 24 – 26)

OCTOBER
Swiss Indoors, Basel (October 23 – 31)

NOVEMBER
ATP Finals, Turin (November 14 -21)

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BGod

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He's an idiot if playing clay at all. And I don't want to hear how close he came to winning 2019 Wimbledon, he still lost and so we can absolutely play the clay card against him that year. He had a great swan song. Zero reason, ZERO, nothing to be gained brand wise, negative on the physical side and nothing to be gained in terms of form on grass.
 
stringertom

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BGod said:
He's an idiot if playing clay at all. And I don't want to hear how close he came to winning 2019 Wimbledon, he still lost and so we can absolutely play the clay card against him that year. He had a great swan song. Zero reason, ZERO, nothing to be gained brand wise, negative on the physical side and nothing to be gained in terms of form on grass.
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Are you suggesting he should play twice back to back on HC in Qatar/Dubai and then take almost three months off again before Halle, all because the only play in between is on clay? That’s “ZERO reason.”
 
UnforcedTerror

UnforcedTerror

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BGod said:
He's an idiot if playing clay at all. And I don't want to hear how close he came to winning 2019 Wimbledon, he still lost and so we can absolutely play the clay card against him that year. He had a great swan song. Zero reason, ZERO, nothing to be gained brand wise, negative on the physical side and nothing to be gained in terms of form on grass.
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He needs to play as much as possible before the grass season. I say even play Monte Carlo.
 
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bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
BGod said:
He's an idiot if playing clay at all. And I don't want to hear how close he came to winning 2019 Wimbledon, he still lost and so we can absolutely play the clay card against him that year. He had a great swan song. Zero reason, ZERO, nothing to be gained brand wise, negative on the physical side and nothing to be gained in terms of form on grass.
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But since he hasn't played much and still will not have played much when clay season starts - maybe the benefit is just to get more reps and get in better "tennis shape" - and also get in Slam mental shape. He hasn't played a Slam since the AO 2020. That's a long time no matter how good he is. Does he really want Wimbledon to be the very first Slam he plays after returning? I doubt he'd play clay season it if he believed it would hurt him for the rest of season.
 
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jdub486

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I thought playing clay in 2019 worked out well for Fed. He was very sharp in terms of rally tolerance at Wimby. Those extra reps on clay helped him get dialed in. I think skipping the clay in 2018 left him rusty. Hard to tell what would be best this year. The choke at W ‘19 had more to do with the pressure of potentially beating Nadal and Djoker successively and past scar tissue with Djoker. Not playing on clay the months prior.
 
MeatTornado

MeatTornado

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jdub486 said:
I thought playing clay in 2019 worked out well for Fed. He was very sharp in terms of rally tolerance at Wimby. Those extra reps on clay helped him get dialed in. I think skipping the clay in 2018 left him rusty. Hard to tell what would be best this year. The choke at W ‘19 had more to do with the pressure of potentially beating Nadal and Djoker successively and past scar tissue with Djoker. Not playing on clay the months prior.
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The ground game problems in 2018 had more to do with him hurting his hand during Stuttgart (or Halle? sometime on grass). That's why his ground game still looked rusty even during Cincy/USO when he'd been back on tour for 2 months already.
 
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Ray Mercer

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UnforcedTerror said:
MARCH
Qatar ExxonMobil Open, Doha (March 8 – 13)
Dubai Duty Free Tennis Championships, UAE (March 14 – 20)

APRIL & MAY
Madrid Open, Spain (April 30 – May 9)
Internazionali BNL d’Italia, Rome (May 9 – 16)
Roland Garros, Paris (May 17 – June 6)

JUNE & JULY
Noventi Open, Halle (June 14 – 20)
Wimbledon (June 28 – July 11)
Olympic Games, Tokyo (July 24 – 30)

AUGUST
Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati (August 14 – 22)
US Open, New York (August 30 – September 12)

SEPTEMBER
Laver Cup, Boston, USA (September 24 – 26)

OCTOBER
Swiss Indoors, Basel (October 23 – 31)

NOVEMBER
ATP Finals, Turin (November 14 -21)

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I don’t see him playing Rome. I’d be shocked to see him play 3 clay tournaments. It would be sad though because the crowd reaction he got against Coric in Rome in 2019 was one of the best crowd reactions I’ve ever heard. It was amazing.
 
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BGod

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stringertom said:
Are you suggesting he should play twice back to back on HC in Qatar/Dubai and then take almost three months off again before Halle, all because the only play in between is on clay? That’s “ZERO reason.”
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Yeah, because 2017.

MeatTornado said:
If he'd skipped clay then that 40-15 serve for sure would've landed in for an ace. That's just how things work.
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He probably wins that match in 4 sets. There I said it.
 
stringertom

stringertom

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BGod said:
Yeah, because 2017.



He probably wins that match in 4 sets. There I said it.
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2017 was a whole different situation. He played HC, AO, Dubai, IW and Miami. That was plenty of match preparation. What you illogically propose is for fedr to play two tournaments max after a 14-month break and then go sit on the sidelines until Halle. Not logical at all, Jim.
 
DIMI_D

DIMI_D

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I expect Fed to def play Madrid it’s faster clay if he wins 2 or more matches I think he skips Rome and French otherwise he plays Rome as well with the intention of getting a few matches in for the grass he won’t go to deep in these tournaments. I expect him to announce he will play French open but will pull out before that starts citing a niggle but will be more not wanting to play that intense before grass.
the schedule above is pretty spot on
 
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ChrisRF

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DIMI_D said:
I expect Fed to def play Madrid it’s faster clay if he wins 2 or more matches I think he skips Rome and French otherwise he plays Rome as well with the intention of getting a few matches in for the grass he won’t go to deep in these tournaments. I expect him to announce he will play French open but will pull out before that starts citing a niggle but will be more not wanting to play that intense before grass.
the schedule above is pretty spot on
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The question is what he wants. If he wants to have it easier to reach the later rounds and maybe even have a small chance for the title, then Madrid would be his perfect choice. If it’s just about preparation for RG, then Rome is much better. But who knows, maybe he plays both.
 
DIMI_D

DIMI_D

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ChrisRF said:
The question is what he wants. If he wants to have it easier to reach the later rounds and maybe even have a small chance for the title, then Madrid would be his perfect choice. If it’s just about preparation for RG, then Rome is much better. But who knows, maybe he plays both.
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I really doubt he plays FO been saying that for a while not a priority I think it’s all about getting match play leading into the grass. He isn’t on the list of Monte Carlo or Barca/Belgrade makes sense so Madrid is def next stop
 
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ChrisRF

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DIMI_D said:
I really doubt he plays FO been saying that for a while not a priority I think it’s all about getting match play leading into the grass. He isn’t on the list of Monte Carlo or Barca/Belgrade makes sense so Madrid is def next stop
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That would be a horrible decision though. I mean, it’s all about protecting the Slam record now, and not playing Slams brings him nowhere. Of course Nadal is almost a shoe-in for the title, but still everything in possible, and then he has to take his chances. I think RG is now his biggest chance to beat Djokovic, as strange as it may sound.

Skipping RG also brings him nothing for grass I guess. 2017 he was so great on grass he would have won anyway, and 2018 showed that skipping clay didn’t help him. I was glad that he realized this and became an all-surface player again. The Anderson loss was a blessing in disguise.

And I must say I would like to see him in Monte Carlo as well, but I understand that THIS really would be too much, and also maybe too early to be a real preparation for RG.
 
DIMI_D

DIMI_D

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ChrisRF said:
That would be a horrible decision though. I mean, it’s all about protecting the Slam record now, and not playing Slams brings him nowhere. Of course Nadal is almost a shoe-in for the title, but still everything in possible, and then he has to take his chances. I think RG is now his biggest chance to beat Djokovic, as strange as it may sound.

Skipping RG also brings him nothing for grass I guess. 2017 he was so great on grass he would have won anyway, and 2018 showed that skipping clay didn’t help him. I was glad that he realized this and became an all-surface player again. The Anderson loss was a blessing in disguise.

And I must say I would like to see him in Monte Carlo as well, but I understand that THIS really would be too much, and also maybe too early to be a real preparation for RG.
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The main aim is Wimby, the clay is pure match practice to boost stamina, he would know he can’t go deep at FO would be worn out
 
TearTheRoofOff

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BGod said:
He's an idiot if playing clay at all. And I don't want to hear how close he came to winning 2019 Wimbledon, he still lost and so we can absolutely play the clay card against him that year. He had a great swan song. Zero reason, ZERO, nothing to be gained brand wise, negative on the physical side and nothing to be gained in terms of form on grass.
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Hark at these expert declamations, LOL. He converts 40-15 and 2019 clay is suddenly fine, then? Don't make me ROFLMAO, now.
 
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ChrisRF

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DIMI_D said:
The main aim is Wimby, the clay is pure match practice to boost stamina, he would know he can’t go deep at FO would be worn out
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No, there are 3 weeks until the start of Wimbledon and 5 weeks between both final weekends. In between there is a little bit preparing in Halle. No way he is worn out when it matters in Wimbledon because of some matches that long before.
 
BGod

BGod

G.O.A.T.
TearTheRoofOff said:
Hark at these expert declamations, LOL. He converts 40-15 and 2019 clay is suddenly fine, then? Don't make me ROFLMAO, now.
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He might win that match in 4. The fact he was pushed is the point. If he had to work harder but ultimately won then no harm, but he lost. Clay did nothing for him except points.
 
BeatlesFan

BeatlesFan

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BGod said:
He's an idiot if playing clay at all.
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And he would be a spectacular idiot to enter Halle in June having played exactly 2 professional matches for the past 1.5 years.

As Fed already explained in Doha, "I have no choice but to play clay." Why? To get matches under his belt, to groove his groundtsrokes as he said and get used to professional match conditions again. He has no choice but to play clay. And the "provisional schedule" is not from Godsick or Fed, it's simply opinion. Fed has not released his 2021 schedule and said he will decide week by week.
 
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TearTheRoofOff

TearTheRoofOff

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BGod said:
He might win that match in 4. The fact he was pushed is the point. If he had to work harder but ultimately won then no harm, but he lost. Clay did nothing for him except points.
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And you know that he wouldn't have been pushed if he hadn't played clay? Come on, now, this is really reaching; your hindsight prescription is practically Hubble grade.

Lightning struck on that fateful day; so be it.
 
terribleIVAN

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UnforcedTerror said:
AUGUST
Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati (August 14 – 22)
US Open, New York (August 30 – September 12)

SEPTEMBER
Laver Cup, Boston, USA (September 24 – 26)

OCTOBER
Swiss Indoors, Basel (October 23 – 31)

NOVEMBER
ATP Finals, Turin (November 14 -21)
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Maybe he can still get ready for Basel, with a little luck ?

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