Federer's streak of 23 semis

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
It's correct. Federer made 23 semis IN A ROW. The FO 2004 he didn't make the semis (was eliminated by Kuerten in 3rd or 4th). So it is correct as it currently stands.
 

asafi2

Rookie
Well he didn't make the semis of FO 2004, so that explains how Wimby 2004 was the start of his streak.
 

Mustard

Talk Tennis Guru
Is the wikipedia page correct? Just wanted to discuss with the experts before I (or one of you) made a change

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Wimbledon_Championships_-_Men's_Singles

It says "This tournament also marked the beginning of Federer's record streak of reaching 23 consecutive Grand Slam semi-finals."

So what about AO 2004?
Yes, it's correct. Federer reached 23 consecutive semi finals in majors from 2004 Wimbledon up to the 2010 Australian Open. The reason the 2004 Australian Open doesn't count is because Kuerten beat Federer in the Round of 32 at the 2004 French Open. The streak ended at the 2010 French Open when Soderling beat Federer in the quarter finals.

However, Federer still has an on-going streak of 31 consecutive quarter finals in majors.
 
Like I tried to state above, if infinity tennis players play infinity slams for an infinite period of time, then someone will almost surely beat 23!
Ummm, no, not almost beat 23, but someone will reach infinity consecutive semis. Or rather an infinite number of players will accomplish it.
 

pvaudio

Legend
Ummm, no, not almost beat 23, but someone will reach infinity consecutive semis. Or rather almost surely an infinite number of players will accomplish it.
Your second statement is almost correct, yes. The first, obviously impossible. His statement is actually also correct though, and the term almost surely is crucial.
 
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Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
I recall Lendl saying a couple of years ago that he considered Federer's 23 semifinal streak as the most impressive achievement in the open era - moreso even than completing the career grand slam.

He always was a stickler for, and fan of, consistency.
 

sunof tennis

Professional
Didn't Lendl have the previous streak at about 10? If so, that is a remarkable acchievement. Maybe not as untouchable as Dimaggio's 56 game hitting streak, but maybe close.
 

kragster

Hall of Fame
I highly doubt this record will be broken because to get to 23 semis in a row you need ALL of the following:

1) Have to be an all-surface expert
2) Have to play at a very high level for at least 6 years consistently
3) Have to be healthy all the time and devoted to tennis. Can't miss a tournament because of life situations etc.

Djoker is on a streak of 7 and could at least beat Lendl's 10 but his health issues could easily be a factor in preventing him from getting beyond 15 or so. Rafa is prone to losing in the quarters once in a while on hard courts. If you look at past greats, there is no one who comes to mind who could have achieved this feat. Borg was a bit like Rafa, had a tendency to lose earlier in the USO. Lendl is probably like Djoker in the sense of being a solid consistent all surface player and that's why Djoker might have the best chance of breaking his record. Then again Djoker could get taken out by a guy like Isner at Wimby.

Basically you need to find a player who is always healthy, always consistent and good on all surfaces. A real tough ask!
 
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FlashFlare11

Hall of Fame
I don't think it's ever going to be broken.

First of all, you need to have an unreal amount of consistency. Maintaining a level that high for so long is extremely difficult. There's a reason no one ever came close to 23 slam semis before.

Second of all, as kragster said, you need to have an all-surface game. Roger has had the best game for transcending every and all surface. He can naturally play everywhere. To me, Nadal will always be vulnerable to an early exit at AO or USO and Djokovic at Wimbledon.

Thirdly, your fitness needs to be very, very high. One could argue that Nadal could have maybe pursued this record had he not been injured at FO09, or AO10.

To me, this is Roger's greatest record (yes, even better than 16 slam wins).
 

kragster

Hall of Fame
I don't think it's ever going to be broken.

First of all, you need to have an unreal amount of consistency. Maintaining a level that high for so long is extremely difficult. There's a reason no one ever came close to 23 slam semis before.

Second of all, as kragster said, you need to have an all-surface game. Roger has had the best game for transcending every and all surface. He can naturally play everywhere. To me, Nadal will always be vulnerable to an early exit at AO or USO and Djokovic at Wimbledon.

Thirdly, your fitness needs to be very, very high. One could argue that Nadal could have maybe pursued this record had he not been injured at FO09, or AO10.

To me, this is Roger's greatest record (yes, even better than 16 slam wins).
Great points!

I think FO 2009 it could conceivably be argued that a fit Rafa would have beaten Soderling, although this is just conjecture and the reality is he lost. AO 2010 he would have lost to Murray in the quarters even if he hadnt tore that ab muscle, Murray was playing really well and is typically a bad matchup for Rafa on hard courts.

Djokovic could have had a streak of 10 already, if not for his 5 set losses to Melzer at FO 2010 and Tsonga at AO 2010, both of which are matches I imagine Djoker 2.0 would not lose.

Anyway the fact that we have to do hypothetical ifs and buts just to get to 10 shows how incredible 23 is.
 

dudeski

Hall of Fame
is that Nadal's new nickname? :lol:

sorry, no offence intended, that was the first thing that popped into my mind. Could just as well say that's Novak's new nickname ;)
Nadal used to be called Topspinmonkey around here in the good old days.
 
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FlashFlare11

Hall of Fame
Great points!

I think FO 2009 it could conceivably be argued that a fit Rafa would have beaten Soderling, although this is just conjecture and the reality is he lost. AO 2010 he would have lost to Murray in the quarters even if he hadnt tore that ab muscle, Murray was playing really well and is typically a bad matchup for Rafa on hard courts.

Djokovic could have had a streak of 10 already, if not for his 5 set losses to Melzer at FO 2010 and Tsonga at AO 2010, both of which are matches I imagine Djoker 2.0 would not lose.

Anyway the fact that we have to do hypothetical ifs and buts just to get to 10 shows how incredible 23 is.
Thanks!

Yes, Djokovic could have chased it, too. He's been incredibly consistent since USO 2009. There's no telling where his record will end.

It's incredible to think that making the semis of every slam played means doing it over 6 years straight! I still can't believe that, no matter how real it may be.
 
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