Fedr #1 again again

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
He can be no. 1 until Halle without doing anything , right?
Nadal would have to lose another match on clay for Fed to either remain no 1 or retain it.

In other words if Nadal wins Rome he's back to no 1 and if he also wins the FO he will sit at that spot until the grass season at least.
 

Zeref

Professional
Yes but if Nadal wins Rome he will get back to the Number one position.Hopefully Thiem stops him there
That would be interesting contest if it happens, it was clear Nadal was not at the top of his game , His forehand was not clicking and his backhand was miserable whereas Theim was playing his best tennis in 2018. I say it would b interesting because I am sure Nadal would play better on any other day this clay season than he did in Madrid today , it is not often that his Forehand and Backhand both fail. But Rome's surface suits Theim more and Nadal hasn't won Rome from 2013, so if Nadal vs Theim happen , it should be a good match.

Suddenly this clay season is not boring anymore
 

Plamen1234

Hall of Fame
That would be interesting contest if it happens, it was clear Nadal was not at the top of his game , His forehand was not clicking and his backhand was miserable whereas Theim was playing his best tennis in 2018. I say it would b interesting because I am sure Nadal would play better on any other day this clay season than he did in Madrid today , it is not often that his Forehand and Backhand both fail. But Rome's surface suits Theim more and Nadal hasn't won Rome from 2013, so if Nadal vs Theim happen , it should be a good match.

Suddenly this clay season is not boring anymore
Yeah.BTW Nadal and Thiem are projected to meet at Rome QFs. https://twitter.com/Olly_ATP_2018/status/994985187267284995
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Nadal would have to lose another match on clay for Fed to either remain no 1 or retain it.

In other words if Nadal wins Rome he's back to no 1 and if he also wins the FO he will sit at that spot until the grass season at least.
It will be very weird because Fed and Nadal will be tied in number of points if Nadal wins Rome. So how can you decide who becomes no.1?
 

JackGates

Legend
It will be very weird because Fed and Nadal will be tied in number of points if Nadal wins Rome. So how can you decide who becomes no.1?
Why do we need to decide? Both are nr.1. In skiing if both have the same time, both share the gold medal, I don't see why tennis would be different.
 
It will be very weird because Fed and Nadal will be tied in number of points if Nadal wins Rome. So how can you decide who becomes no.1?
  • When two or more players have the same number of points, ties shall be broken with the following rules:
  1. Total points from all Grand Slams, ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Mandatory tournaments and ATP World Tour Finals main draws, and if still tied, then,
  2. The fewest events played (all penalties count as a played tournament), and if still tied, then
  3. The total number of points from the players' best tournament, then, if needed, the second best, and so on.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
  • When two or more players have the same number of points, ties shall be broken with the following rules:
  1. Total points from all Grand Slams, ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Mandatory tournaments and ATP World Tour Finals main draws, and if still tied, then,
  2. The fewest events played (all penalties count as a played tournament), and if still tied, then
  3. The total number of points from the players' best tournament, then, if needed, the second best, and so on.
Well, judging be the first criteria, Nadal will jump ahead.
 
Well, judging be the first criteria, Nadal will jump ahead.
I don't know, MC isn't mandatory so it wouldn't be counted in the first section? Current points Fraud 8670 (minus Halle, Basel and Rotterdam = 7170) and RAFA 7950 (plus Rome win, minus Monte Carlo, Barcelona and Beijing = 6770).
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
I don't know, MC isn't mandatory so it wouldn't be counted in the first section? Current points Fraud 8670 (minus Halle, Basel and Rotterdam = 7170) and RAFA 7950 (plus Rome win, minus Monte Carlo, Barcelona and Beijing = 6770).
It's gonna be interesting how they approach this.
 
Yes but if Nadal wins Rome he will get back to the Number one position.Hopefully Thiem stops him there
Nah dont expect that much from thiem..
He redlines once vs rafa every year and then goes back to normal pigeon level......
Next time if they will meet in rome, angry bull will almost crush him like 6-2 6-1 ...
Nadal has never lost 2 consecutive clay matches to a one player (not named novak djokovic)
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
If Nadal wins Rome, his Madrid and Rome results from last year will be flipped, which means he will be back where he was before. 100 points ahead of Federer. No tie.
From my calculations, Nadal has lost 820 points by losing in the Madrid QF. So Fed is now ahead by 720 points.

If Nadal wins Rome, he will gain 720 points, which results in a tie.
 
From my calculations, Nadal has lost 820 points by losing in the Madrid QF. So Fed is now ahead by 720 points.

If Nadal wins Rome, he will gain 720 points, which results in a tie.
RAFA would gain 820 points since he's defending 180 points and masters award 1000. He currently has 7950 points so -> 8770 points.
 
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