FEDR I SWEAR TO GOD M8 DON'T MESS THIS UP

metsman

G.O.A.T.
Oh yeah I agree that Fed will have to keep improving his game in the next few rounds to beat Murray. But thankfully he got a draw full of mugs so hopefully he can do so without worrying about losing
 

TupeloDanger

Professional
Haha, i expected some Fed fan to make this type of thread. Lol
Murray is still there mate. And Fed is still rusty
Murray's never been a threat to Fed at Wimbledon. Plenty of hurdles still out there for Fed, but Murray ain't one of them. Murray needs Fed to lose to have a real shot here.
 

Bukmeikara

Legend
Bar Nishikori, Fed has a pretty easy path til the final. Up there, if he meets Andy, the britt would probably be the heavy favorite. I mean, Fed hasn't beaten top player in 6 months.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
If only this was last year. Murray is a big favourite over Federer right now - despite Andy not convincing me with his form so far either.
yeah at the moment Murray is the fave. But Fed still has 3 more rounds to improve his game and he has been serving well so that will give him a puncher's chance regardless. And unlike against Djokovic Federer has the mental advantage over Murray. And unlike 2014 USO there does not seem to be some GOATing players in the draw and this is grass and most of the remaining field has no idea how to play on grass so that should minimize the chances of a Gurufils/Cilic performance as in 2014.

I think Sir Nick could be a factor here but Murray likely beats him.

Raonic could prove problematic but it's good he is in the semis and not the quarters so Fed has time. But yeah too bad it is not last year as his chances would be much more secure.
 

StanTheMan

Hall of Fame
There was a tribute video to federer and his slams WHERE THE **** IS IT IT HAD A NICE SONG AND HIM CRYING AND ****
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
I do think that winning this will make reaching GOAT unlikely for Novak. So in that regard it is big and i hope Federer knows that. But yes, this keeps the GS final/semi/quarter streak intact and it is extremely unlikely anyone breaks it any time soon so that is nice. I don't care much for the QF streak but the finals and semi streak are a true testament.

Novak I believe was on 5 straight finals and 7 of 8 which is very impressive in its own right.
 

nowhereman

Legend
This has to be a blessing from the Guru. He has finally decided to give Fedr another chance after 4 whole years! :eek: Now it is up to Fedr to capitalize on it. Bel18ve in the Maestro.
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Federer himself is struggling now. It's great for him that Johnson, instead of Dimitrov who hits bigger, is his next opponent, but I doubt he will be able to beat Nishi/Cilic. Let's hope for Fed's no. 18, but let's not be too disappointed if he doesn't get it. This Federer is way off his prime.
 

Lord Anomander

Professional
I think Raonic has a good chance to reach the final. Rooting for Delpo and Roger now, but Roger has a long way to go. I think Murray will win his second Wimbledon title (I also said he will win before Nole went out).
 

xFedal

Legend
No, I meant Federer. Laver only played on two surfaces when there was hardly any spin. Much more difficult to play now.
Even Djokovic can't win Calendar this really puts Laver back into the GOAT debate not Federer, Laver is the winner here!! If Novak won Wimby2016 he wouldn't have caused much harm to Fed however Lavers 1969 would have been blown to bits by the 5 in a row. Now Laver stands Tall among Midgets like Federer and Djokovic in GOATHOOD.
 
I do think that winning this will make reaching GOAT unlikely for Novak. So in that regard it is big and i hope Federer knows that. But yes, this keeps the GS final/semi/quarter streak intact and it is extremely unlikely anyone breaks it any time soon so that is nice. I don't care much for the QF streak but the finals and semi streak are a true testament.

Novak I believe was on 5 straight finals and 7 of 8 which is very impressive in its own right.
I wonder if this loss marks the beginning of Novak's decline. Once the aura of invincibility is shattered, every guy in the field plays with belief against him.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
Haha agreed. Who is Murray's greatest obstacle before the final?
Kyrgios and JMDP. I don't know if either beat him or even reach him but if Kyrgios particularly serves at like 70% he has a shot. But Murray is a very good matchup against Kyrgios which will make it tough.

In either case this will be by far the weakest draw Federer faces to win a wimbledon.
 

SQA333

Hall of Fame
Man he'll get bombed out by one of the big servers. Cilic or Raonic will have him, I tell you.
 

Rippy

Hall of Fame
Yeah, shame this didn't happen last year.

I don't see Federer winning this year tbh. I'd put Murray as a heavy favourite should they meet. Wouldn't surprise me if Fed lost before meeting Murray anyway.
 
So are you telling me a man who took Novak out could not confront Federer and take him out ? Good Luck....((although I am pretty sure Federer will win his 18th))
 

Tennisanity

Legend
Even Djokovic can't win Calendar this really puts Laver back into the GOAT debate not Federer, Laver is the winner here!! If Novak won Wimby2016 he wouldn't have caused much harm to Fed however Lavers 1969 would have been blown to bits by the 5 in a row. Now Laver stands Tall among Midgets like Federer and Djokovic in GOATHOOD.
I disagree. Laver played in a very different era. Laver would be no match for any of these top guys today.
 

Dilexson

Hall of Fame
Kinda expected a blow out from Novak after the long awaited RG win.
Not as early as this though.:eek:
Tennis is totally Unpredictable.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
I wonder if this loss marks the beginning of Novak's decline. Once the aura of invincibility is shattered, every guy in the field plays with belief against him.
that is part of it definitely. But Novak has always been vulnerable to this kind of matchup, just that this year Querrey sealed the deal and Novak wasn't focused fully like he was the last 2 years. Doubt Novak will be relinquishing dominance on hard anytime soon although I think on quicker hard he is definitely beatable, just see the last 2 years. And maybe this loss helps some guys gain confidence to actually do it.
 
Yeah, shame this didn't happen last year.

I don't see Federer winning this year tbh. I'd put Murray as a heavy favourite should they meet. Wouldn't surprise me if Fed lost before meeting Murray anyway.
Is not Del potro in Murray's half ? I do not think Murray will make it to final. Fed can easily also take Murray out, if del potro reaches final, he will definitely become a problem for Federer
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
This has to be a blessing from the Guru. He has finally decided to give Fedr another chance after 4 whole years! :eek: Now it is up to Fedr to capitalize on it. Bel18ve in the Maestro.
yup...guru softened up novak by not facing him in MC or Rome where he was scheduled.
 

Warmaster

Hall of Fame
No problem if it was 2014 or 2015. I don't see him winning now after the year he's had. But hey, one can hope.

Murray's got this I think, I even thought he would win a final against Djokovic, but that is a hurdle he won't need to face.
 

xFedal

Legend
I disagree. Laver played in a very different era. Laver would be no match for any of these top guys today.
Laver didn't have any weakness like Federer weak Backhand, h2h struggles with Nadal....Fed needs to win Wimbledon to put himself back in a position to compare with Laver.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
Man he'll get bombed out by one of the big servers. Cilic or Raonic will have him, I tell you.
nah Cilic had a fluke run, hasn't done jack since. Raonic might be a problem but that is the SF so Rog still has 2 more matches and a week to improve his form to take out Raonic.
 

Tennisanity

Legend
Laver didn't have any weakness like Federer weak Backhand, h2h struggles with Nadal....Fed needs to win Wimbledon to put himself back in a position to compare with Laver.
LOL, I also don't have any weaknesses in my 3.5 league. Doesn't mean I'm better than Fed.
 

Sartorius

Hall of Fame
Unfortunately, if there was any time where Fedr would "screw up" a Wimbledon title, it's this year. You wouldn't call it a screw up even.
 

Federer and Del Potro

Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, shame this didn't happen last year.

I don't see Federer winning this year tbh. I'd put Murray as a heavy favourite should they meet. Wouldn't surprise me if Fed lost before meeting Murray anyway.
Heavy favorite when Fed has beaten him 5 straight times and 6 of last 7? I'd say more like a 50/50 match. Federer's form will be good if he can make it all the way to final. Still good opponents left in that half.
 

SQA333

Hall of Fame
nah Cilic had a fluke run, hasn't done jack since. Raonic might be a problem but that is the SF so Rog still has 2 more matches and a week to improve his form to take out Raonic.
I think Cilic is playing almost as well as he was when he won the 2014 US Open.
 
Yeah, shame this didn't happen last year.

I don't see Federer winning this year tbh. I'd put Murray as a heavy favourite should they meet. Wouldn't surprise me if Fed lost before meeting Murray anyway.
I'm not a Federer fan but this is true. Had Anderson finished the job, he would have won it. He was playing at a very high level last year.

This tournament, he's won comfortably but unlike last year players have had some joy against his serve.

Can't remember how many break points he had against him on the way to the final last year but it was freakishly low iirc.
 
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