Fed's chances in Miami

[ak24alive]

Considering what happened in IW, what are Roger's chances at the title in Miami?
With his age and all there are a lot of things to be considered like is he out of gas or are there any back issues etc..
And surely Delpotro is a factor now.
I am posting it before the draw gets out just to see how people assess his condition just from their observation of Fed in IW because once the draw is out speculation is easy.

 

[zagor]

Hard to say, his recovert definitely isn't what it was and Miami never really suited him. He'll make an attempt to reach QF if healthy/fresh because of #1 but I wouldn't expect more than that.

 

[Hughjarse]

1). Is he definitely playing?
2). When do players have to declare whether they are playing or not?
3). Is Delpo playing?
4). When is the main draw?

 

[Hughjarse]

As a seeded player he won’t have to play until next Friday or Saturday??

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Death by PCB.

 

[ak24alive]

1). Is he definitely playing?
2). When do players have to declare whether they are playing or not?
3). Is Delpo playing?
4). When is the main draw?

Draw is about to be out today itself.
As for Fed and Delpo playing, both of them have openly said that they are going to play.

 

[ojo rojo]

Death by PCB.

 

[ak24alive]

As a seeded player he won’t have to play until next Friday or Saturday??

He will have to play the 2nd round and that is on Friday I guess.
Miami Schedule: http://miamiopen.com/tournament-schedule

 

[Deleted member 77403]

He is getting to quarters at least. That is the main goal.

 

[ak24alive]

Considering what happened in IW, what are Roger's chances at the title in Miami?
With his age and all there are a lot of things to be considered like is he out of gas or are there any back issues etc..
And surely Delpotro is a factor now.
I am posting it before the draw gets out just to see how people assess his condition just from their observation of Fed in IW because once the draw is out speculation is easy.

@Hydrocella what you say mate??

 

[Red Rick]

Lower than in IW, but still decent.

There's still only very few people that should be able to beat him, and losing to Del Potro is not the norm

 

[Jackuar]

He's getting the win. You heard it first here.

 

[ak24alive]

Lower than in IW, but still decent.

There's still only very few people that should be able to beat him, and losing to Del Potro is not the norm

Well if it's not the norm then why lower than IW? Is it because of the toll it might have had on his body in the 2 matches he had to struggle or because of his history in Miami?

 

[ak24alive]

He's getting the win. You heard it first here.

Well this is coming from an atheist but Amen to that!!

 

[FHtennisman]

He's probably not playing until the weekend (happy to be corrected if wrong) so I don't think he should be too physically drained, he won't be 100% but good enough to navigate the earlier rounds IMO. The most important thing to me is if he can up his game, the ground strokes displayed in IW, I don't see them progressing him past the semis in Miami - he needs to be nimble and go for all out aggression, with every point decided on his terms.

Just from his whole demeanour, appearance, playing style and reactions - I don't think he prepared much at all for the Sunshine Double and whilst not playing as horrendously as he did at Montreal last year, it seems like it's obvious when and why he does and doesn't do well. Hopefully he gets the QFs and better at Miami but I don't think the surface suits him at all and that he's most likely not going to go all the way this time though he's proved everyone wrong many times before, so never know what can happen.

 

[Red Rick]

Well if it's not the norm then why lower than IW? Is it because of the toll it might have had on his body in the 2 matches he had to struggle or because of his history in Miami?

He might have had 55% of winning IW and failed, and he may win Miami with 45% chance. I'm just airballing numbers here, but I definitely think his chances in Miami are lower, and the chances of indeed fatigue setting in are much higher in Miami than in IW cause they're consecutive tournaments. I don't really know how well Federer recovers nowadays to play consecutive tournaments, and last year he was fine playing the Sunshine Double, though he did get the walkover from Kyrgios in IW.

 

[Deleted member 742196]

Considering what happened in IW, what are Roger's chances at the title in Miami?
With his age and all there are a lot of things to be considered like is he out of gas or are there any back issues etc..
And surely Delpotro is a factor now.
I am posting it before the draw gets out just to see how people assess his condition just from their observation of Fed in IW because once the draw is out speculation is easy.

@Hydrocella what you say mate??

Home Depot is one of two guys on tour that can make Fed appear ancient at times. The other being Cilic.

Fed cannot trade baseline groundstrokes with either. And when these two are kraking, he has no inroads to the net.

If it’s another windy day like yesterday, Fed can’t go for angles.

Against these two I’d say it’s more on their rackets then Fed’s. He needs to use all his guile and experience and sense of momentum to eke out the important points.

Love this matchup.

I don’t think Fed was gassed, had back issues etc. Big flat/deep hitting just doesn’t allow Fed to come in from the baseline.

The two guys I see on tour that can pin him to the baseline [above post], do better on hard and fast courts and while Delpo has shown he’s ready to take it to Fed many times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Cilic also finds that gear quite soon.

Fed in a certain sense walks on court against Delpo with an emotional disadvantage - he wants to trade blows for better or worse, maybe because of the history. With Cilic Fed is more level-headed though Cilic’s inconsistencies to date in no small part make things easier.

Clearly Fed isn’t where he was last year into his comeback. I think some of the recent success may have him putting some undue pressure on himself.

In any event, I think the short term goal at MIA is just QF’s to keep the ranking through to August.

 

[Apun94]

Fed will definitely play Miami. He's got 5 days left and he's only going for the quarters. Anything further would be a great bonus, I am sure.
And it's not like anyone apart from Delpo is a real threat to him.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Nobody on tour other than DP would have beaten Fed today, so there's that.

I expect Fed to do okay. He'll be motivated to reach the QF at least, and from there he could easily decide the extra two matches are worth the effort.
You'd expect Delpo to have a letdown soon anyway and I don't think that he'll be waiting in the final if Fed reaches it.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Fed will definitely play Miami. He's got 5 days left and he's only going for the quarters. Anything further would be a great bonus, I am sure.
Nad it's not like anyone apart from Delpo is a real threat to him.

Berda and KyrGOAT had their chances of beating him last year.

 

[Apun94]

Berda and KyrGOAT had their chances of beating him last year.

Yeah and where is Kyrgios this year?

 

[Deleted member 756486]

I just hope if he does lose he loses in the semis and not the final.

Can’t handle anymore Fed final losses

 

[Julian Houston]

Fed is very fatigued and this year's IW conditions can be slower than Miami due to the wind, he dare not step in to attack.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Hoping for Novak and Delpo his side of the draw so he has less chances.

IW showed how vulnerable Fed can be, and he has been winning matches because others choking. Typical for the ones in the top. Maybe this changed a bit now.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Yeah and where is Kyrgios this year?

Ready to peak for Miami.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Hoping for Novak and Delpo his side of the draw so he has less chances.

IW showed how vulnerable Fed can be, and he has been winning matches because others choking. Typical for the ones in the top. Maybe this changed a bit now.

IW also showed how Novak's vulnerability, lol.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

IW also showed how Novak's vulnerability, lol.

A bit different at this point. Would love seeing Novak playing Federer. Been a while.
Also, Novak and Delpo are friends, and none of them having the choking thing vs Fed going on.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

A bit different at this point. Would love seeing Novak playing Federer. Been a while.
Also, Novak and Delpo are friends, and none of them having the choking thing vs Fed going on.

Fed also would love to play Novak. Too bad he can't beat the Taros of the world.

 

[Pheasant]

Federer still has to be the favorite at this stage. Will he hit his stride in Miami? I certainly hope so. Because an in-form Fed is quite fun to watch.

Last year, Fed barely got by Berdych and Kyrgios in Miami. Even Bautista Agut pushed Fed to a couple of tiebreakers. But Fed got it done. And I think he can this year too.

 

[albertobra]

I'd truly consider for Fed to take a rest, skip Miami and go for clay season, just Rome and RG.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Kinda wanna see Fred get revenge on Delpo not gonna lie.

 

[Plamen1234]

I'd truly consider for Fed to take a rest, skip Miami and go for clay season, just Rome and RG.

No.Federer needs to secure the Number one position.He will try to do this in Miami then he should prepare for Wimbledon which is the most important thing for him I think.He doesnt have chance at clay season.He should play tournaments where he have chance to win like what he have been doing this year.

 

[AiRFederer]

I expect him to win. Hope he gets delpo again.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

I'd truly consider for Fed to take a rest, skip Miami and go for clay season, just Rome and RG.

He gives up the #1 spot by skipping Miami.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

I expect him to win. Hope he gets delpo again.

Fed probably begging JMDP to get to him on his lawn at Wimbledon. Fed would unleash some pain there.

 

[junior74]

Federer made the IW final, played far from his best, still had 3 MPs. And if he'd won, everything would still be hunky-dory.

I am impressed by how he hung around against both Coric and Delpo, he could easily have lost both matches in straights.

First and foremost, I hope Federer finds his forehand again. It was a mess.

 

[tennisaddict]

Lot of carnage happens at Miami but Fed will escape unscathed and rub salt once again !

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Federer totally choked in final. 40/15 at 5-4 on his own serve.
Also, he is so stubborn while playing del potro. Why the fek does he go to his forehand all the time and get burned......????

 

[EloQuent]

IW loss took the shine off so people are going to devalue him. But who else is going to win? Delpo again, after playing nonstop for weeks and winning back to back? Cilic, if he can make it past the old guys?

The basic dynamic remains, Federer isn't a lock but he's the single most likely to win.

 

[mike danny]

Hoping for Novak and Delpo his side of the draw so he has less chances.

IW showed how vulnerable Fed can be, and he has been winning matches because others choking. Typical for the ones in the top. Maybe this changed a bit now.

Fed is not winning Miami anyway so don't worry

He is striving for a QF just to stay no.1 for a longer period.

 

[mike danny]

I'd truly consider for Fed to take a rest, skip Miami and go for clay season, just Rome and RG.

Quite the opposite actually. Fed should consider skipping clay at all costs. If he couldn't hit through the court at IW, he is not going to be any more succesful on clay.

 

[Krish872007]

Should do alright. This loss is unlikely to stick around too long in his memory.
Still favourite to win it by a long way even though he's not a fan of the heavy conditions. And if he plays at the level he's capable of he will win it. The current field won't always have the luxury of facing him in poor form, they need to show they can play well above themselves.

 

[albertobra]

No.Federer needs to secure the Number one position.He will try to do this in Miami then he should prepare for Wimbledon which is the most important thing for him I think.He doesnt have chance at clay season.He should play tournaments where he have chance to win like what he have been doing this year.

Federer should go after a career GS. #1 spot is pretty much guaranteed, since Rafa has (too) many points to defend on clay. One more reason for Fed to go on clay with zero points to defend.
But the point is another. Fed needs and can think greater. And that is go after the 4 GS titles in 2018.
This would be the apotheosis of his career.

 

[Deleted member 742196]

Federer should go after a career GS. #1 spot is pretty much guaranteed, since Rafa has (too) many points to defend on clay. One more reason for Fed to go on clay with zero points to defend.
But the point is another. Fed needs and can think greater. And that is go after the 4 GS titles in 2018.
This would be the apotheosis of his career.

If you’re going to dream, dream big.

That’s what gets every great champion to the top.

For what it’s worth, I agree. I’d be happy with another RG and if should happen, and Wimby follows, the sort of intensity and pressure trying to also go for USO will almost be too much to bear.

 

[albertobra]

If you’re going to dream, dream big.

That’s what gets every great champion to the top.

For what it’s worth, I agree. I’d be happy with another RG and if should happen, and Wimby follows, the sort of intensity and pressure trying to also go for USO will almost be too much to bear.

And to add up, Fed's game has gone through some chances that can be very useful on clay.
His top spin BH is very proper for clay. Federer today has more sensibility on how to spin the ball on BH, allowing him to defend very well when needed.
His serve motion is just perfect for a master kick serve.
And that not to say that fans would go in delirium with Roger on court, after skipping 2017.
I am sure Roger can go far in clay If he decides to play there.

 

[Deleted member 742196]

And to add up, Fed's game has gone through some chances that can be very useful on clay.
His top spin BH is very proper for clay. Federer today has more sensibility on how to spin the ball on BH, allowing him to defende very well when needed.
His serve motion os just perfect for a master kick serve.
And that not to say that fans would go in delirium with Roger on court, after skipping 2017.
I am sure Roger can go far in clay If he decides to play there.

We pretty much share in the same opinion how his game might translate on clay. The whole idea of just seeing him on clay is exciting itself.

I totally agree - he’s found a way to hack the vulnerability of modern topspin by taking it so early well inside the court, on the rise.

The people here that tell you he mustn’t grind on clay may not be saying it fully - he mustn’t grind on any surface, because, at this point in his career he cannot dominate from the baseline anymore.

It’s also about the field of competition - if his main rivals and vulnerable matchups are Delpo and Cilic, it then follows that the best surface to meet them on would be clay.

If he can continue to serve out wide to open up the court for a mid court approach/finishing volley he does well on clay.

That’s my ardent belief.

And I’d very much love to see if it’s possible.

 

[Sudacafan]

Considering what happened in IW, what are Roger's chances at the title in Miami?
With his age and all there are a lot of things to be considered like is he out of gas or are there any back issues etc..
And surely Delpotro is a factor now.
I am posting it before the draw gets out just to see how people assess his condition just from their observation of Fed in IW because once the draw is out speculation is easy.

He can beat anyone with varying degrees of comfort except Del Potro.
If Federer meets Del Potro again, I would say the odds are 50/50.
Because of their ranking Federer and Del Potro could only meet in quarters. So he should be OK to reach them.

 

[Sudacafan]

As a seeded player he won’t have to play until next Friday or Saturday??

If the playing structure of the tournament is the same as IW, he will get a bye in the first round, and he should start playing Saturday or Sunday.
He could extend that to play his first match on Sunday, as Delpo and Federer did in IW respectively.

Edit: 2nd round men singles matches will be played on Friday and Saturday. Just checked the tournament website.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Ready to peak for Miami.

Is he fit?

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Is he fit?