Felix Auger Alliassime racquet specs

[racquetreligion]

no need to play baseball instead, as its quite obvious the bevels are virtually unaffected and
specially more so if the original factory grip it came clad with is not used.

 

[Jouke]

Holy moly. Felix uses grip size 4 on babolat?! Thats like a 5 on Wilson.

 

[Lambsscroll]

So his racket is 314g unstrung. Roughly what would his racket weigh strung? He uses 16g poly.

 

[ron schaap]

no need to play baseball instead, as its quite obvious the bevels are virtually unaffected and
specially more so if the original factory grip it came clad with is not used.

i was replying to the solution of building a grip 2 sizes with several layers of lead and overgrips, not by grip enlarger method.

 

[racquetreligion]

i was replying to the solution of building a grip 2 sizes with several layers of lead and overgrips, not by grip enlarger method.

You were replying to the wrong post.
I never once mentioned building a grip 2 sizes.

 

[cyanide43]

@Lambsscroll Strung specs estimated: ~336g, ~33cm balance, based on strokes I would guess ~335 sw.

 

[Lambsscroll]

@Lambsscroll Strung specs estimated: ~336g, ~33cm balance, based on strokes I would guess ~335 sw.

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[iceman_dl6]

Wow, that’s light for pro standards!

 

[Nostradamus]

Wow, that’s light for pro standards!

Felix hits ONE of the Biggest Heaviest balls in ATP tour. So that just shows you that you don't need massive Swing weight on your racket to produce very heavy balls.............

 

[cyanide43]

@iceman_dl6 not anymore, under 340g with a somewhat forward balance pretty common

 

[Nostradamus]

you don't see ton of extra lead tapes on the racket. overall, his racket is very light for pro standards

 

[Nostradamus]

 

[Benben245]

Felix hits ONE of the Biggest Heaviest balls in ATP tour. So that just shows you that you don't need massive Swing weight on your racket to produce very heavy balls.............

It helps with defense, and turning defense into offense quickly.

 

[rh310]

that doesn't look like his current racket ..

Looks like almost square beam.

 

[rh310]

Here are a few photos of Felix Auger Aliassime's rackets taken recently:

The rackets are standard length (686mm) and the unstrung weight and balance (including overgrip) is 314g and 32.0cm.

His string setup was:

Mains - Babolat RPM Blast Rough 16 (1.30) @ 23.0 KGS
Crosses - Babolat RPM Blast Rough 16 (1.30) @ 23.0 KGS

Hope this can be of help,

ProStringing

That's a square beam, isn't it? What mold is it?

 

[QuadCam]

That's a square beam, isn't it? What mold is it?

That's the pure aero vs mold.... Originally called the aerostorm.

 

[Nostradamus]

That's the pure aero vs mold.... Originally called the aerostorm.

looks just like mine

 

[rh310]

That's the pure aero vs mold.... Originally called the aerostorm.

Thanks! I'll look for one in the new colors (personally hated that day-glo green on black). (Or maybe the images on TW aren't up to date.)

 

[ron schaap]

It helps with defense, and turning defense into offense quickly.

A lot of next gen players dont use those heavy racquets anymore with the exception of Zverev. Anyway faa lost yesterday in 3 sets to an unknown young Frenchman, so on grass he isnt that special some members wants us to believe.

 

[Jouke]

A lot of next gen players dont use those heavy racquets anymore with the exception of Zverev. Anyway faa lost yesterday in 3 sets to an unknown young Frenchman, so on grass he isnt that special some members wants us to believe.

Please, give the guy a break. He had a bad day yesterday. He is special; 8-3 on grass courts this season. Playing amazing. He will be in the top for the next years, if his heart keeps up that is.

 

[AMGF]

A lot of next gen players dont use those heavy racquets anymore with the exception of Zverev. Anyway faa lost yesterday in 3 sets to an unknown young Frenchman, so on grass he isnt that special some members wants us to believe.

Yep nothing special. Just the regular 18yo reaching third round of Wimbledon. This is so common nowadays, I don't even know why people talk about this.

You on the other had, are really special. To come up with such a comment requires pure talent and hard work.

 

[Benben245]

A lot of next gen players dont use those heavy racquets anymore with the exception of Zverev. Anyway faa lost yesterday in 3 sets to an unknown young Frenchman, so on grass he isnt that special some members wants us to believe.

I have started threads about swing weight being a possible reason for the lack of success by next gen players. You should watch that match. Umbert shot making was excellent. I think FAA is a tremendous talent, and you really shouldn't make generalizations about the future of an 18 year old from one match.

 

[QuadCam]

Thanks! I'll look for one in the new colors (personally hated that day-glo green on black). (Or maybe the images on TW aren't up to date.)

They haven't released the PA VS is the new softer yellow yet. I have 6 of the aerostorm and pure aero vs frames. Some off the shelfs and 2 pro stocks. The biggest thing to look for is finding matching frames. Babolat's quality control is terrible! They have an allowance of +/- 7gms. So, between a light one and a heavy one..... They can be 14 grams apart (½ Oz). I have one aerostorm tour that is on the heavy end....i don't play play with as i can't customize it to match my other frames.
I've found it easiest to buy the regular version and add weight.

 

[rh310]

They haven't released the PA VS is the new softer yellow yet. I have 6 of the aerostorm and pure aero vs frames. Some off the shelfs and 2 pro stocks. The biggest thing to look for is finding matching frames. Babolat's quality control is terrible! They have an allowance of +/- 7gms. So, between a light one and a heavy one..... They can be 14 grams apart (½ Oz). I have one aerostorm tour that is on the heavy end....i don't play play with as i can't customize it to match my other frames.
I've found it easiest to buy the regular version and add weight.

OMGosh yes on Babolat QC. I had three of the PS17 16x19, and they were all over the map.

The regular version doesn't have the square beam, does it? (I looked, it doesn't seem so.) I might be silly, but I really do prefer the 21x21 square beam to the Pure Aero 23-26-23 beam.

I had a few of the Aerostorm GT some years back (I think that's what they were called), and liked it.

 

[QuadCam]

The PureAero VS and the PureAero VS Tour both have the same 98in² head, 16x20 pattern and squared thin beam. Weight and where it's placed are the only differences on those 2 frames.

 

[ron schaap]

Yep nothing special. Just the regular 18yo reaching third round of Wimbledon. This is so common nowadays, I don't even know why people talk about this.

You on the other had, are really special. To come up with such a comment requires pure talent and hard work.

I think Becker already won his first Wimbledon title at that age.
To win 2 rounds over there, it counts when having some luck with the draw, but fans in blind adoration dont use their common sense anymore i guess.

 

[AMGF]

I think Becker already won his first Wimbledon title at that age.
To win 2 rounds over there, it counts when having some luck with the draw, but fans in blind adoration dont use their common sense anymore i guess.

Michael Chang was even younger when he won RG. Doesn’t mean anything. He never was a truly dominant player. Being young for the first Major doesn’t guarantee a huge carreer.

FAA went from outside the top 100 to top 20 in 6 months. But because he didn’t reach 4th round on his first time ever at this tournament he’s overhyped? I’d agree he hasn’t won anything yet, but what a freaking year he’s having at 18yo. He had a bad match against Humbert, big deal. Nadal had the wooden spoon at AO 2016. Federer had his first slam at 21. Doesn’t mean anything.

Maybe FAA will be next Gasquet or maybe the next Federer or anything in between. But judging his potential on a single game is nonsense. And if he was to be the next Gasquet (a young early bloomer that never win any major) it’ll still be a heck of a career.

 

[Power Player]

Michael Chang was even younger when he won RG. Doesn’t mean anything. He never was a truly dominant player. Being young for the first Major doesn’t guarantee a huge carreer.

FAA went from outside the top 100 to top 20 in 6 months. But because he didn’t reach 4th round on his first time ever at this tournament he’s overhyped? I’d agree he hasn’t won anything yet, but what a freaking year he’s having at 18yo. He had a bad match against Humbert, big deal. Nadal had the wooden spoon at AO 2016. Federer had his first slam at 21. Doesn’t mean anything.

Maybe FAA will be next Gasquet or maybe the next Federer or anything in between. But judging his potential on a single game is nonsense. And if he was to be the next Gasquet (a young early bloomer that never win any major) it’ll still be a heck of a career.

Great post. Ron has demonstrated multiple times that he has no idea what he’s talking about. Honestly , its an account best ignored.

 

[Shaolin]

A lot of next gen players dont use those heavy racquets anymore with the exception of Zverev. Anyway faa lost yesterday in 3 sets to an unknown young Frenchman, so on grass he isnt that special some members wants us to believe.

Humbert isn't unknown if you actually follow tennis...although judging by your posts it's fairly obvious you don't.

 

[ron schaap]

So what if i do in fact judge faa on his first Wimbledon! I remember Mcenroe who got in his Wimbledon debut into the semi finals, and he had in fact even to play qualification. If faa is around 20 on Atp than he had a protected draw at Wimbledon. He should have won the first rounds, and probably the third too, with his ranking. Sorry that i and probably a lot of other Europeans dont share the hype of North American players. Not a lot of them reach the second week of a grand slam, let alone get into the finals, lol lol.

 

[McLovin]

So what if i do in fact judge faa on his first Wimbledon! I remember Mcenroe who got in his Wimbledon debut into the semi finals, and he had in fact even to play qualification. If faa is around 20 on Atp than he had a protected draw at Wimbledon. He should have won the first rounds, and probably the third too, with his ranking. Sorry that i and probably a lot of other Europeans dont share the hype of North American players. Not a lot of them reach the second week of a grand slam, let alone get into the finals, lol lol.

Well, let’s see...

There’s this guy Djokovic who lost in the 3rd round of his first Wimbledon.

Oh, and there’s also a guy you may know by the name of Federer who lost in the 1st round of his first two Wimbledon appearances.

Oh, and a little known player by the name of Sampras who also lost in the first round of his first two Wimbledon appearances, and in the second round of his third appearance.

And none of those guys ever amounted to anything close to that of Becker or McEnroe...

 

[Dartagnan64]

I remember Mcenroe who got in his Wimbledon debut into the semi finals, and he had in fact even to play qualification

I think Becker already won his first Wimbledon title at that age.

It's fun to pick one-offs and use them to predict the career path of a current 18 year old player. Lots of great statistical validity in that argument. Double kudos for picking precocious players from the pre-poly era.

 

[Povl Carstensen]

At that age I had allready finished tenth in my local sailing clubs dinghy competition

 

[ron schaap]

It's fun to pick one-offs and use them to predict the career path of a current 18 year old player. Lots of great statistical validity in that argument. Double kudos for picking precocious players from the pre-poly era.

OK, we could also just super faa on the other grand slam this year, Roland Garros. I dont remember seeing him there in the second week too. In fact i dont remember seeing him in the first week. Where was he? All other minor tournanents dont count and are not shown on tv over here anyway.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

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[AMGF]

OK, we could also just super faa on the other grand slam this year, Roland Garros. I dont remember seeing him there in the second week too. In fact i dont remember seeing him in the first week. Where was he? All other minor tournanents dont count and are not shown on tv over here anyway.

Here is an american you shouldn’t ignore:

 

[Simplicius]

Here are a few photos of Felix Auger Aliassime's rackets taken recently
The rackets are standard length (686mm) and the unstrung weight and balance (including overgrip) is 314g and 32.0cm.

Looking at those "toy-rackets" which Next Gen players use, is not hard to understand why "The Big 3" are still big out there...

 

[Shaolin]

Looking at those "toy-rackets" which Next Gen players use, is not hard to understand why "The Big 3" are still big out there...

Big 3 would still destroy the Next Gen with "toy racquets".

 

[Povl Carstensen]

Big 3 would still destroy the Next Gen with "toy racquets".

They might be lacking a bit redirecting power and plowthrough.

 

[cyanide43]

@Povl Carstensen A curious thought.

Fed is 340sw, 364g
Novak 360sw, 352g
Rafa 365sw, 342g

The older gen either have high swingweight and/or high mass, whereas it's possible to see both relatively low swingweight (330-340) and low mass with newer gen's racquets. However, they offset that with more forward (head heavy) balances.

I think the newer generation probably has a smaller range of specs that they're comfortable with given the retail racquets of today that encourage players to play "faster" tennis with bigger and more complicated swings.

However, I don't think that's the only factor at play because some of the newer gen players have more classically tuned setups:

Zverev 360sw, 343g
Shapo ~340ish, 355g

I think there's also a factor of maturity and experience in the game nowadays that makes a big difference.

 

[Shaolin]

They might be lacking a bit redirecting power and plowthrough.

They could probably beat them with pickleball racquets

 

[Nostradamus]

will he break thru and win the US open this fall ?

 

[Povl Carstensen]

Quite a lot of the younger players are not far of Federers sw, they just have a cm or 1½ more HH balance. My personal experience is that a 340 sw racket at 364 grams, will play with a bit more stability/plowthrough and less vibration than a 340 sw racket at 340 grams. It is however also heavier to swing around in the long run than the lighter racket. Which is why I play my RF 97 and PS Classic without leather grip.

 

[asifallasleep]

Yep nothing special. Just the regular 18yo reaching third round of Wimbledon. This is so common nowadays, I don't even know why people talk about this.

You on the other had, are really special. To come up with such a comment requires pure talent and hard work.

I don't know if i agree with this post, but boy, it's really funny. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[blablavla]

@Povl Carstensen A curious thought.

Rafa 365sw, 342g

From where do you have this data?
Babolat claims his racket weight is 317g.
I don't think the strings are 25g
The sw is as well probably lower

 

[McEncock]

1.35 mm poly strings are very heavy and Rafa added lead at 12' during his career

 

[blablavla]

1.35 mm poly strings are very heavy and Rafa added lead at 12' during his career

he had a 313/314g racket up to 2014 if I am not mistaken.
Then he added 3g of lead at 12. Which makes the static weight = 317g, unstrung

How heavy do you think the RPM Blast strings are?
I think the common knowledge on this forum is that strings add 10-12g of static weight, while to reach the 342g, he would require 25g of weight to come from strings.

 

[cyanide43]

he had a 313/314g racket up to 2014 if I am not mistaken.
Then he added 3g of lead at 12. Which makes the static weight = 317g, unstrung

How heavy do you think the RPM Blast strings are?
I think the common knowledge on this forum is that strings add 10-12g of static weight, while to reach the 342g, he would require 25g of weight to come from strings.

He doesn't necessarily add 3g of lead at 12. Each racquet has a different amount of lead at the tip depending upon how much they need to have the same swingweight.

Unstrung weight is measured without strings and without an overgrip. Between heavy 15L gauge strings, an overgrip, and a dampener, pretty easy for weight increase to be between 20-25g. I have data from Prostock Tennis on that front.

My swingweight is an estimation based on his previous career numbers and how much I've seen SW change in strung frames (between 30-40pts). This number has also been corroborated by impacting tennis.

Also, check the link in my signature for a full list of Rafa specs through his career.

https://imgur.com/a/In7lZav

 

[blablavla]

He doesn't necessarily add 3g of lead at 12. Each racquet has a different amount of lead at the tip depending upon how much they need to have the same swingweight.

Unstrung weight is measured without strings and without an overgrip. Between heavy 15L gauge strings, an overgrip, and a dampener, pretty easy for weight increase to be between 20-25g. I have data from Prostock Tennis on that front.

My swingweight is an estimation based on his previous career numbers and how much I've seen SW change in strung frames (between 30-40pts). This number has also been corroborated by impacting tennis.

Also, check the link in my signature for a full list of Rafa specs through his career.

https://imgur.com/a/In7lZav

1. I would guess that whatever comes from production line, Rafa is using rackets that are super close to the specs published by Babolat, which you have in the photo
2. as the specs are published by Babolat, very detailed, I would expect them to be true, otherwise, they could easily run in troubles in US. In EU that's not a big risk, but in US legal claims can amount to ridiculous amounts if someone can prove that Babolat knew that Nadal actually plays with something different. Even publishing info that are not sure about can get them into significant troubles
3. The 3gr added at 12' is public knowledge. I recall seeing this information on the Insiders section in Babolat, and published as well on many other sites afterwards
3. Well, I didn't know that unstrung in this context means as well without overgrip. It makes sense, but either way, the overgrip shouldn't account for the difference in weight.
- the racket shall have 317g
- strings 10-12g
- a syntec gryp, according to other posters on this forum is likely to be at 8g. Though I haven't check myself

 

[McEncock]

My string job (full 17g poly) is 19g, but 18x20 string pattern, not 16x19.
Still, it's minimum 15g in general. First time I hear about 10-12g full poly string job